Black Spirituality Religion : Question For The Muslims

As Salaamu Alaykum

Ralfa'il said:
There are a billion and a half Muslims in the world so I'm sure you can find some who drink blood, screw there own mothers, and worship Satan...however that is not ISLAM.

That is an individual CALLING themselves a Muslim while doing what they want to do.

Dont' confuse evil barbaric rituals and foolish superstitions with Islam.

If we want to learn about Islam and what Allah demands from us, then we should read the Koran.



Very Good Point But These Thing Do Happen And Are Happening Now , One Must Read The Bible And The Quraan Because They Are One In The Same . It There Teach Who Make It Hard For Muslim To Read The Bible , And The Christian Teacher Don't Want Christian Read The Quraan . It Deep .
 
Is There Poor Arabic Grammar And Errors In The Qur'aan ?

Some Muslims will say . The Qur'aan is the word of God /Allah . The final and complete scriptures to the whole of mankind . This is an Exerpt about The Qur'aan from A muslims scholar name '' Jamal Badawi . He says '' The Quraan Is For Muslims . And the last but not the only book revealed by Allah to mankind through his messengers . It is however , The only holy book which remained fully intact from the time of its Revelation until the present time . Not only is the full text of The Quraan , Available . But is also availabe in the full and exact form as uttered by The Prophet Muhammad ( Peace Be Upon Him ) . At the time of its Revelation and in the original language in which it was reavealed ( Arabic)
No Addition , Deletion , Or Interpolation Found Its Way Into The Quraan

For Muslims , The Quraan Is The Only Remaining Authoritative And Authentic Revelation Avaible To ManKind , How Could Mr.Badawi say this when the original , Quraan was ( BURNED ) and there has been many addition , interpolations in The Qur'aan since the original is no longer here
!!!!! So no one except Muhammad , 'Uthmaan , Abu Bakr andfewothers know what the original , Said and how it was written .

Was there Grammar in the original Qur'aan , Muhammad supposedly received ? You will have some Muslims say '' No . So that means the original Quraan had '' No Grammar . There were No ( Fathas , Kasras , Dummahs , Maddas , Shaddas , Hamzas , Sukuwn , ) All of the grammatical marking above , In the Qur'aan that Muhammad received , Yes or No ? The Answer is ( No ! ) It did not exist in The Quraan .

So that means Mr. Badawi Doesn't know what he is talking about , Or He Cleary Lied About The Quraan . That means there were ( Addition ) Added to The Quraan . And if Muhammad was alive today , He wouldn't be able to read it . With its ( Farsiy , Diywaniy , Nashkhiy , Andmany other Scripts As Well .

This is big game that keeps you under their control . They Refer You Back To Things That They Had Created And Added , Which Is The Quraan They Have Today . Because As Stated Before , The Original One Was ( BURN ) Under 'Uthmaan And Abu Bakr .

What Was Muhammad's Language ? Muslims will have to say , It was The Qurayshan Dialect Of Arabic . In Yusef Ali's Quraan 44;58 it states ; '' Verily , We Have Made This ( Qur'an ) Easy In Thy Tongue , In Order That They May Give Heed , '' So that means it was not this modern day , 'Arabiyya Fusha , or '' Classical Arabic . '' According to your own scholars , The Quraysh Dialect Now Being Classified As One Of The Arabic Dialects

Had all of it roots in '' Three Part Verbs , Whenever you see A two part verb like '' The Word '' Khudh , Hud , Had ' . They had to affix one of three letters ; '' Alif ( 1 ) Waw And Yaa , To it to make it fall in this newly formed system , called '' Al Huruwf Al 'Illa , And They Are Three Letter Borrowed Out Of The Hebrew Alphabet , Namely '' Aleph , Wav , Yod , Which became '' Alif , Waw , and Yaa.

When you see the word '' Khudh '' meaning '' To Take ''. Which Is '' Kha ''And Dhaal , They must add an ( Alif ) to make it A three part and say
Akhadha . However , When they get to the word '' Hud '' meaning '' To Like . '' They don't follow the same system , And simply Add an '' Alif '' . They Bring in A new system called '' Shadda '' Which they say means '' To Strengthen '' It comes from the word '' Shada '' , In Aramic / Hebrew , meaning '' Demon , or Mighty '' or , '' Shadai .

#07706 Shadday ( Shad-Dah'-Ee ) From #07703 ; Twot - 2333 ; N M Dei Av- Almighty 48;48 1 ) Almighty , Most Powerful 1 A ) Shaddai , The Almighty (Of God ) And It Became '' Shadiyd In Ashuric / Syriac /Arabic As Used In The Quraan 13;13 In Part ; '' ... Yet These ( Are The Men ) Who ( Dare To ) Dispute About Allah With The Strength Of His Power
( Supreme ) .

'' Huwa Shadiyd . So They Convince You That They're Strengtheming A Letter By Doubling It . So They Add A Symbol That LQQk Like The Ancient '' W '' Which Comes From The Tone To Double The '' U '' Thus You Have The Sound '' W '' So When It Comes To The Word '' Hub '' Instead Of Them Saying '' Ahaba , They Say '' Hubb, Creating A New Form . This Type Of Trickery Goes On . Which Make It Difficult For Any Other Than A Controlling Class Of Desert Arabs From Fully Comprehending Arabic Grammar As They Call It They Will Draw Your Attention To These Type Of Arguments To Keep You From Realizing That None Of It Makes Any Sense . When You Realize That There Were None Of These Marking In The Original Quraan . None Of This Type Grammar , '' Nahwa , Harakaat Etc .In The Original Quraan .


Is There Poor Arabic Grammar And Errors In The Qur'aan ? Some muslims will say No . In Suwrah 2;177 . 1 . - The word Saaniriyn is in The Genitive case ; However , because of its position in the sentence The Niminative case which is As Saabiruwn , should be used instead . 2 -Here is another Arabic Mistake In The Qur'aan . Suwrah 7;160 , The Phrase '' We Divided Them Into Twelve Tribes '' Is Grammatically Incorrect ; Athna ' Ashara Asbaataa .

The word Twelve , Athna ' Ashara should be Masculine and the word for tribes, Asbaataan should be singular Sibtaan because according to the Arabic Grammar ; They ( In The Case Of Number ) Are followed by A single noun in the accusative , ( A New Arabic Grammar Of The Written Language , Page 304, J.A. Haywood and H.M. Mahmad , Harvard University Press , Massachusetts . 1965 A.D. ;... So the phrase should be . '' Athna ' Ashar Sabtaan ( Again this is an Arabic mistake in The Quraan) 3- Then in Suwrah 4;162 .. The phrase '' And Those Who Establish Regular Prayer , '' Wa Almuqimiyn Al Salaat

Is expressed in the Genitive Case ( Possessive )And it should be Written in The Nominative Case ( Subject ) , Which is '' Wa Al Muqiymuwn As Salat , ( Another mistake in The Arabic of The Quraan not in the translation these are in The Arabic Quraan ! ) .

4- Suwrah 22;27 , The word As Saa'lbiyn again is written in the Genitive Case , As Saa'ibiyn , It is more correct to write it in The Nomonative Case . As Saa'ibuwn . ( Another Arabic Mistake ) .

5- Suwrah 63;10 , The word '' I '' Should have been '' Akaana is Arabic Dialect , Contrary to the Classical Arabic Language , Used in The Quraan . Therefore , It Is Spelled Incorrectly In This phrase , The word should be spell Akuwnu Instead . ( Another Arabic Mistake In The Quraan )

6 - Suwrah 3;59 , In this verse , Kun Fayakuwn is in the present form , Yet it is translated in the past tense as . '' He Was , '' Which Is Incorrect In Arabic . It would be more [roper to translate it as , Kun Fakaan '' Exist An Into Existence It Comes . ( Again , The Arabic Quraan Has Mistakes In This Newly Formed Grammar .

7 - Suwrah 7;40, The word ' Jamal which is translated as '' Camel '' In the phrase '' Until The Camel Can Pass Through The Eye Of The Needle '' Is Incorrectly Voweled . The Correct Word Should Read '' Jummal '' Instead . Thus , The phrase should Literally Read '' Until A Twisted Rope Passed Through A Needle's Eye '' And again ( This Is A Mistake In The Arabic Quraan ) .


Not to mention that this verse was Stolen from The New Testament , The Book Of Matthew , Revealed In The Years 41 A.D . In Palestine for The Hebrew , And it is not A Divinely Inspired Book , And I Quote , And Again I Say Unto You , It Is Easier For A Camel To Go Through The Eye Of A Needle Than A Rich Man To Enter Into The Kingdom Of God .

Is A verse Stolen from A Book that is not even A Divine Revelation ; But literally good News According To Matthew , Whose Surname Is '' Levi '' According to Mark 2;14 ( A Jewish Tax Collector ) And I Quote ; And as he passed by , He saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom , And said unto him , Follow me , And he arose and followed him .
For The Roman Government Matt 19;24 .

He wasn't A Prophet .He was just A man who wrote A story about Jesus life and it is in your Quraan , As If It Is A Divine Revelation ! ( Umm !!!! Something Is Surely Wrong , Allah Is Borrowing Information From A Regular Man , Who Happens To Be A Jewish Tax Collector ! This Would Make Any Muslim Twitch !


Qur'aa 7;40 ( Yusef Ali's Translation ) And I Quote ; To Those Who Reject Our Signs And Treat Them With Arrogance , No Opening Will There Be If The Gates Of Heaven Nor Will They Enter The Garden , Until The Camel Can Pass Through The Eye Of The Needle Such Is Our Reward For Those In Sin

( This Is An Excerpt Confirming The Above Claim )
'' As for the wotd Jamal occurring in this sentenve . There is hardly any doubt that its translation . In this context , As '' Camel '' Is Erroneous . As pointed out by Zamakhshari ( And confirmed by order classical commentators , including Razi ) . Ibn '' Abbas used to read the word in the spelling '' Jummal which signifies ' A Thick Rope '' Or ' A Twisted Cable '

And the same reading is attributed to all ' Ali Ibn Talib .. Ibn Abbas , Is also quote by Zamakhshari as having said that God could not have coined so Inappropplated A metaphor as A Camel passing through A needle's eye ... The fact that the latter rendering occurs in A somewhat similar phrase in the Greek Version of the synopic Gospel ( Matthew 19;24 ) Does not affect this contention , One should remember that the gospel were originally composed in Aramic , And that those Aramaic text are now lost .

From the message of The Quraan . By Muhammad Asad , Dar Al-Andalus Gibraltar , Page 209 , Which was wrong , because those Aramaic Texts have been found since 1947 A.D. As The '' Qumran Tablets or The Dead Sea Scrolls . It's just another attempt by Muslims to hide the fact that they are stealing verse from other people's book . ( Why If The Quraan Is Such An Unique , One Of Its Kind Type Of Scripture? Obviously It It Not !!!
 
Issa

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Very Good Point But These Thing Do Happen And Are Happening Now
I know this is happening, but Islam isn't a game in which you "follow the leader".

We are instructed to follow the instructions given in the Koran regardless of what some of us may do.




One Must Read The Bible And The Quraan Because They Are One In The Same . It There Teach Who Make It Hard For Muslim To Read The Bible , And The Christian Teacher Don't Want Christian Read The Quraan . It Deep

I've read both..cover to cover...twice.

The Bible isn't the same as Koran.

The Koran are 1st and 2nd hand dictations of God's word to mankind.

The Bible is a collection of various scriptures from the Hebrew prophets, Babylonian scribes, and Jewish apostles...put together partially in Babylon and partially in Greece and Rome.

The Bible contains some of the word of God...but mostly the words of man...narrations.

Say what you will about the Koran, but in it's Arabic text it is the same book all over the world and has never changed in it's 1400 year history.

This can't be said of the Bible.

((expecting Samurai to counter what I've said now))
 
Kayfa Haalafa < Ralf'il >

Ralfa'il said:
Issa

Resepct


I know this is happening, but Islam isn't a game in which you "follow the leader".

We are instructed to follow the instructions given in the Koran regardless of what some of us may do.






I've read both..cover to cover...twice.

The Bible isn't the same as Koran.

The Koran are 1st and 2nd hand dictations of God's word to mankind.

The Bible is a collection of various scriptures from the Hebrew prophets, Babylonian scribes, and Jewish apostles...put together partially in Babylon and partially in Greece and Rome.

The Bible contains some of the word of God...but mostly the words of man...narrations.

Say what you will about the Koran, but in it's Arabic text it is the same book all over the world and has never changed in it's 1400 year history.

This can't be said of the Bible.

((expecting Samurai to counter what I've said now))



With All Do Re-Spect Ok . OverStand SomeThing Ok I Can Feel That You Are Sincere oK . But What People Fail To Realize Is They Must Know The Language Their Belief Was Written Original That Is , By Knowing The Language One Can Truely See All The The Mistakes Written . Far As Christianity Their Soooooooooooo Many Mistake , And As We Speak There Is A Knew Version Coming Out . This Is Why You Here A Christian Say What Bible Are You Reading That From , Or Thats Not What My Bible Says . Not Knowing When They Say This , They Are Say There're Many Other Version Of There Bible ,
 
Well, there IS some truth to what you have written here, theres ALWAYS a new version of scripture, or so called comming out.These NEW perversions are the work of satan, and NOT the WORD OF GOD!!Anyone can get a copy right, change a few hundred words and some one ignorant of scripture, not having the gift of disernment will buy it thinking, Oh lovely, something I can understand. What a joke.......Very few in these last days are interested in spreading the word of God, only making a quick buck off it.WOE! WOE! WOE! To Them that pervert Scripture!!!!!!!
 

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