Black Spirituality Religion : Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?

[Greatest I am]

So that is because you "believe" that Christ is a lie so is his Father, and the Holy Spirit, because you believe there is no such thing as spirit? Therefore there is no Devil because you don't remember ever being tempted when you know what a lie is, and you know what happens to those who love a lie? It sets them free of worry about consequences -- for the moment. Is this the right direction?

Who is tempting and lying in these quotes.

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1Kings 22:23

Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
2 Chron 18:22

Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jer 4:10

And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
Ezekiel 14:9

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Thessalonians 2:11

O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. - Jeremiah 20:7

To me, God’s worse lie was to Adam and Eve. He told them they could eat of the tree of life and then reneged and in a real sense murdered them by denying them a remedy.

That pesky God sure works in mysterious ways.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You cannot be brethren to Jesus and choose to argue with what he is trying to get us to understand.
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Hogwash.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

John 14:23 This will happen, "make our abode with him" when we are baptized with fire.

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What does that mean to you?

Regards
DL

 

[Al D]

There is more than one type of Jesus in the scriptures.

Simply stated, Christianity tries to sell the Roma *** kissing Jesus that wants us to be slaved to him as God.

Gnostic Christianity sells the Jesus spoken of in these quotes that wants to free us from religious dogma and follow him in taking control of our thinking.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Do you want to be a slave to religion or a brethren to Jesus?

Please Google Alan Watts - On The Book of Eli for the philosophical view on this.

Regards
DL

Jesus is a myth. A non historical figure copied from other entities or deities before him from other ancient civilizations. The Jesus myth or story is notably very similar to Prometheus, Buddah, Horus, Mithra and Krishna all of which predate the so-called Jesus.. You will find that all of these deities have a similar story line...One question must must ask and that is, if Jesus was a well messenger of God and teacher why is he not recorded in any ancient historical documents of that time with the exception of the bible.. Surely a man or man-god who is considered to be magnanimous or bigger than life figure is more than worthy to write about or at least deserves some mention in historical text.. Not just in a biblical context which leads one to ask why???? Simple answer, the story of Jesus is a copied and manufactured version of other deities created to ingratiate folks to a bogus religion ( Christianity) and manipulate their minds and prey on their fears in order to reduce them to complete surrender and compliance...The Ultimate Tool of Enslavement...

All of the following have similar stories to that of the so-called Jesus
Adad of Assyria •
Adonis, Apollo and Zeus of Greece •
Agni of India •
Alcides/Hercules of Thebes •
Attis of Phrygia •
Baal of Phoenicia •
Bali of Afghanistan•
Buddha/Beddhu of India, China and Japan •
Deva Tat (Buddha) of Siam•
Salivahana of Burma •
Tammuz of Syria•
Thor of the Gauls •
Universal Monarch of the Sibyls •
Wittoba of the Bilingonese •
Xamolxis/Zamolxis of Thrace •
Zarathustra/Zoroaster of Persia
Taken from the book;
Murdock, D.M.; S, Acharya. The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ... There are many other sources that debunk or refute Jesus as a historical figure....Just research it...

 

[willa]

Who is tempting and lying in these quotes.

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1Kings 22:23

Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
2 Chron 18:22

Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jer 4:10

And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
Ezekiel 14:9

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Thessalonians 2:11

O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. - Jeremiah 20:7

To me, God’s worse lie was to Adam and Eve. He told them they could eat of the tree of life and then reneged and in a real sense murdered them by denying them a remedy.

That pesky God sure works in mysterious ways.

Regards
DL

1Kings 22:23 Four hundred false men claiming to be prophets vs. one man who was a true prophet, Micaiah, who said, "As the Lord liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak." In the four hundred men, the Lord did not cast out the lying spirit but gave the King of Israel over to the lying spirit, as the true prophet had told him before that he would be doomed and he would not believe but sought after lies x 400 to tell him all would be well. People who will not believe the truth and do not want to even hear the truth are left to their own devices, as they wish. But the Lord do warn them. People have their free agency even if it means their down fall. As they wish.

2 Chron. 18:22 is the same story as 1Kings 22:23.

Jer. 4:10 The Lord said, "Declare ye in Juda and publish in Jerusalem; and say, Blow ye the trumpet in the land: cry, gather together and say, Assemble your selves, and let us go into the cities. Set up the standard toward Zion, (righteousness): retire (give up your war): stay not ( upon the thought to shed blood): for I will bring evil (a curse that you will say evil has come to you)". Once again the Lord warned the people and they would not listen.

The Lord promised peace to Jerusalem, as long as they uphold God in their hearts. Otherwise Zion is a curse upon the wicked.

Ezk.14:9 If a man is a true prophet of God, he cannot be deceived through the Holy Spirit of Revelation. So, the Lord will allow those who don't follow the path the Lord sets, those people, those false prophets who deceived themselves by the evil spirit they follow to their destruction. Satan gathers fallen people through false teachings and the easier path of disobedience.

Thes. 2:11 The Lord withdraws his Holy Spirit which men can no longer discern Truth, and therefore are left in confusion.

Jeremiah 20: 7 Will get back -- have to depart for a while.