Black People : Blacks should "Get Over Slavery"

mrron said:
Unfortunately, too many of us haven't gotten over slavery, and many of us act as if we ourselves were the actual victims of it. In that sense, we need to get over it, and move on, because it didn't happen to us directly. History has recorded the fact of slavery, and there are many books available on the subject, as well as internet web sites dedicated to it. There are books about all kinds of slavery and who enslaved whom, and so on and so on and so on. There is no real way of getting a resolution to slavery, reparations, whether we get them or not, will not resolve the issue. Some people are stagnate in their lives and blame it on slavery, the white man, the devil made me do it, disease, bad weather, full moons, high tides, you name it and someone, somewhere has used it as an excuse for not succeeding in life.

The jews said 'never again' to the halocaust, and they have established themselves economically and politically to ensure it. They are not going around talking about "the man", they have become their own man.

We don't need any more handicaps to keep us down, such as this issue of slavery. I have never considered myself a slave, a former slave or an associate slave. So I don't harbor any hate towards any white man because of that issue. Those who hold this hatred, have high blood pressure, disease, misery, unemployment, fewer opportunities for prosperity, and the man they blame for all of this, doesn't even know that they exist. Get over it!

While I agree with the sentiment of your post it fails to recognize a simple fact.

The Jews have not simply "gotten over" the Holocaust.

They say "Never Again"

In turn, they support ISRAEL which supported apartheid in South Africa and is responsible for displacing Palestineans from their homeland.

Also, did you see the mive about the teacher in Long Beach teaching the "ghetto children".

She taught them not about the slavery of Blacks in amerika, but of the JEWISH holocaust.

So, while they have established themselves as "the man" it has come at the expense of others, particularly Blacks, especially in southern Africa, while they dominate the trade in Oil and "Blood Diamonds".

If white people "Dont know they exist" why then is it that they are the main ones always talking about how Blacks need to get over slavery?

Its simply an effort to satisfy their collective "White guilt".

Perhaps, you can easily dismiss this and this is generally the modus of a few Blacks who have "made it" WITHIN "the system".

I guess thats what happens when one becomes an agent of the us government...
 
OmowaleX said:
While I agree with the sentiment of your post it fails to recognize a simple fact.

The Jews have not simply "gotten over" the Holocaust.

They say "Never Again"

In turn, they support ISRAEL which supported apartheid in South Africa and is responsible for displacing Palestineans from their homeland.

Also, did you see the mive about the teacher in Long Beach teaching the "ghetto children".

She taught them not about the slavery of Blacks in amerika, but of the JEWISH holocaust.

So, while they have established themselves as "the man" it has come at the expense of others, particularly Blacks, especially in southern Africa, while they dominate the trade in Oil and "Blood Diamonds".

If white people "Dont know they exist" why then is it that they are the main ones always talking about how Blacks need to get over slavery?

Its simply an effort to satisfy their collective "White guilt".

Perhaps, you can easily dismiss this and this is generally the modus of a few Blacks who have "made it" WITHIN "the system".

I guess thats what happens when one becomes an agent of the us government...


Well said brotha Om

I'd like to add a link that some of the family may find pertinent to subject of the thread

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2523/
 
Thanks Omowalex for pointing out some of the other atrocities I eluded to in one of my replies. The Jew's, as I said, have become the man in their own right. I don't agree with the Jew's treatment of the Palestians, it still amounts to racism. But this conversation is about blacks getting over slavery, and not forgetting about it. I see no benefit in continuously beating that issue beyond it's death. There are too many things being neglected in the black community, that we can do something about, so why are spending valuable time on something we can't do anything about? Slavery is in the history books, so let it be, and make sure it doesn't happen again by taking care of the problems of the black community today, starting with giving our children the proper education, at home and at school. They need to have a positive self image in order to survive. To tell them that they are just former slaves, and that is the most significant part of their history, is not going to benefit any of them

You are correct in saying that there is some white guilt engaging white people in this country, and that might be part of the reason they would want us to forget about slavery. My opinion is based on the stagnation that I see resulting from this obsession with the issue, that is now deep in the past.

You have made negative reference's to the system several times in your post, yet you don't hesitate to mention that you have also made it in this system. Forgive me for being oblivious, but I don't see the sytem as being against me. I know the system very well and know how to use it to my advantage. I strongly advise that all of our people learn how the system works, it is still the best there is. If you know a better one, please let me know where it is being practiced.

You say I am an agent of the government. I am a law enforcement officer working for Homeland Security, that is progress for black people. But I guess you would rather that I be unemployed , sitting at home talking about how "the man" is keeping me down.
 
mrron said:
Thanks Omowalex for pointing out some of the other atrocities I eluded to in one of my replies. The Jew's, as I said, have become the man in their own right. I don't agree with the Jew's treatment of the Palestians, it still amounts to racism. But this conversation is about blacks getting over slavery, and not forgetting about it. I see no benefit in continuously beating that issue beyond it's death. There are too many things being neglected in the black community, that we can do something about, so why are spending valuable time on something we can't do anything about? Slavery is in the history books, so let it be, and make sure it doesn't happen again by taking care of the problems of the black community today, starting with giving our children the proper education, at home and at school. They need to have a positive self image in order to survive. To tell them that they are just former slaves, and that is the most significant part of their history, is not going to benefit any of them

You are correct in saying that there is some white guilt engaging white people in this country, and that might be part of the reason they would want us to forget about slavery. My opinion is based on the stagnation that I see resulting from this obsession with the issue, that is now deep in the past.

You have made negative reference's to the system several times in your post, yet you don't hesitate to mention that you have also made it in this system. Forgive me for being oblivious, but I don't see the sytem as being against me. I know the system very well and know how to use it to my advantage. I strongly advise that all of our people learn how the system works, it is still the best there is. If you know a better one, please let me know where it is being practiced.

You say I am an agent of the government. I am a law enforcement officer working for Homeland Security, that is progress for black people. But I guess you would rather that I be unemployed , sitting at home talking about how "the man" is keeping me down.


Because you or I have "made it" does not blind me to the fact that "the system" IS NOT WORKING for the MAJORITY of Black people in this country.

It is NOT WORKING for the MAJORITY of white people either. Capitalism only works for a SELECT FEW. My own "success" within the system is relative to the failure of others because I am an exception to the general rule. The difference here is that I dont deny these bovious facts.

As far as your last statement, NO, I do NOT rather you or any other Black person be unemployed or sitting at home complaining about whitey or "the system".

What I do expect though is recognition that "the system" does NOT work in favor of the MAJORITY of our people.

Now, as far as being a Law enforcement officer for "Homeland Security", perhaps this is progress for YOU, but for the collective, I will have to disagree.

"Homeland Security" is a political front for American FASCISM. Its policies are "progress" for the predominately white, racist, ruling class of "america".

Now, perhaps I should hold my tongue before the "homeland agents" come looking for me. And, Im not joking when I say that.
 
Sekhemu said:
Well said brotha Om

I'd like to add a link that some of the family may find pertinent to subject of the thread

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2523/


Thanks for the link brother Sekhemu.

My position is rather than be hamstrung by white supremacy and the legacy of slavery that we need to understand how this historical reality is often dismissed by the present generation of whites, many of whom even deny their own role in this reality, and do so to ease their own conscince concerning how they have amassed the economic wealth within their posession.

Legislators as the one whom this threads statements are based use their arguments not only in an "anti-reparations" agenda, but in easing their own sense of guilt, which is a psychological aspect of racism which perpetuates the system.

If there is deniability, there is also a denial that racism exists, and that anti-racist political policies need to be changed.

In fact, I think all Black children need to be taught about the atrocities of slavery with the same, if not more, tenacity that jews teach about the holocaust. I also think this begins internally, within our families who survived slavery. I know that within my own family we have a few family historians, including myself, that have written or are in the process of writing books and holding reunions where we share information concerning the legacy of our family and where we collective HONOR those same ancestors. And I have some very successful family members who are civil and business leaders within their comminities who are engaged in this process.
 

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