Black People : What is An Elder?

[cherryblossom]

cherryblossom - you proved my point brilliantly. Thank you. ~ Zulile

LOL! It is what it is.

I am a product of my community, experiences and exposures.

 

[cherryblossom]

how much black african culture go you know? are you versed in any ATR?
have you studied khamet? what are your strongly held beliefs based on?
what is your foundation? where did you learn this stuff?

please explain.

to have strongly held beliefs is one thing. to have strongly held beliefs while not knowing anything else is another. if you know what you know and you don't no nothing else and you reject strongly anybody who attempts to say anything else to you, do you really know what it is that you say that you know?

there are some things about khametic spirituality that i reject. however, i know what it is that i am rejecting and i know why i am rejecting it.
can you say the same? do you know what it is that you reject and why it is that you are rejecting it?

Again, "It is what it is," James.

I make a distinction between the "office/position" of an ELDER and a OLDER person.

Yes, an OLDER person by AGE is "elderly" but their age alone does not make them an ELDER.

Just cuz an older person, by age, is getting a "senior's discount," that don't make them ELDERS in their communities.

ELDERS walk the walk.

OLDER people just talk the talk.

 

[jamesfrmphilly]

"It is what it is"? what is that?

Again, "It is what it is," James.

I make a distinction between the "office/position" of an ELDER and a OLDER person.

Yes, an OLDER person by AGE is "elderly" but their age alone does not make them an ELDER.

Just cuz an older person, by age, is getting a "senior's discount," that don't make them ELDERS in their communities.

ELDERS walk the walk.

OLDER people just talk the talk.

i have asked you several times what your concepts are based on.
i have asked you what do you know of african culture and ATR.

you have repeated what your idea of an elder is.

i have to assume that we cannot reason on this point.

peace

 

[cherryblossom]

i have asked you several times what your concepts are based on.
i have asked you what do you know of african culture and ATR.

you have repeated what your idea of an elder is.

i have to assume that we cannot reason on this point.

peace

 

[cherryblossom]

Beloved One:

The question, what is an Elder is a valid one, but such a question can not be answered with conventional belief, as defined by the western world and if we should use such a definition, then the question would be answered simply, An Elder is someone who has lived the years whereby the experience of the process of the reverse birthing is in motion, which cause the person experiencing such a process not be capable of being as vibrant in body nor as physical agile as the body was in Time of its birth process of passing through the stages of early childhood development as the body go through the process of Human growth and development, headed to become a physical Elder.

Now, An Elder of complete substance is more than living to a ripe age of progressive maturity, which if we all live long enough will be exposed to
that biological experience.

So, let us get back to the Elder of substance and that substance consist of both bodies and an ability to integrate the Two, as they move in harmony in an orderly action, thus being able to maintain a balance between the Two bodies and an Elder of experienced Divinity will be capably of living and existing at the same Time, experiencing the True meaning of the duality of the biological Being, physical and Spiritual such is the expression of a Divine Elder and not a biological Elder.

A Biological Elder flow and operate only under the dictate of the physical body, which cause that Elder to operate only on the physical, having no knowledge of the True meaning of the Spiritual body.

Such an Elder is under the influence of the dictate of Time and the deteriorate effect Time has upon the life of the physical body and yet compliment the Divine Ethereal Body, whose Destiny is Eternal Infinity.

So you see Beloved One, we have two types of Elders, One physical and the other ( Elder ) Both physical and Spiritual, expressing, with understanding, life experiences, having the wisdom to interpret life experiences clearly, gained from the knowledge and understanding,from living a physical life and experiencing a Spiritual existence at the same Time.

In other word Beloved One, a Divine Elder is Spiritual in a physical body and understand the importance of the essence and action of Spirituality.

I agree that one who is older is not the same as one who is an Elder.