Black Spirituality Religion : Black Christian People

[Queenie]

Who is #45 praying to?

 

[Fireman]

I really like the way you explained this.

Thanks.

 

[Fireman]

Who is #45 praying to?

It doesn't matter, He isn't sincere. It was a good act to make people think and believe that he is sincere.

 

[Al D]

I don't believe they didn't see anything wrong with it, otherwise there would'nt have been anything to discuss in Vallodolid. Asking the question is answering it here imo, the right thing from their Spanish perspective of that day would be to submit them to christianity and send the Spanish inquisition to anybody with a different belief or opinion, just like they did with European heretics and protestants in those days. But that meant they would have to treat them as fellow catholics and not enslave them. The priests would have liked that, all those new devote catholics, but those weren't the ones running the overseas operations. So I guess they talked long enough to obscure right and wrong, even from their twisted perspective, and fabricate hypocrite justifications.

But it's hard to discuss the role of christianity as if it was one religion from one colonial power that stayed the same over 500 years, when that clearly wasn't the case. The Spanish theocrats with their Spanish inquisition were very different from the Dutch protestants who were in favour of freedom of religion for example, and both changed much over the centuries. The protestants were even more hypocrite, because they knew very well what was right as they acted accordingly in their homeland and for 50 years overseas too, only to end up as the ones that took the Atlantic slavetrade to a whole new level before the British dominated it. But in general the European resistance against slavery came from the devote christians with christian ethics and arguments in their churches, studies and universities in Europe, while the ships and colonies attracted a different crowd that created the overseas reality.

So you could also argue that the christians lost the fight to do what's right or at least what they truly believed was right from the people who weren't very christian. But christians do hypocrisy and looking the other way very well, both catholics and protestants in their own way, and that's a good reason in itself not to become or remain christian.

Hey Lynott, I get you, and at the end of the day this so-called Christianity is a corrupt and hypocritical religion. My intent here is to examine and discuss why after all of this folks (African American) mainly continue to embrace it.
Thanks for your input.

 

[Queenie]

I don't believe they didn't see anything wrong with it, otherwise there would'nt have been anything to discuss in Vallodolid. Asking the question is answering it here imo, the right thing from their Spanish perspective of that day would be to submit them to christianity and send the Spanish inquisition to anybody with a different belief or opinion, just like they did with European heretics and protestants in those days. But that meant they would have to treat them as fellow catholics and not enslave them. The priests would have liked that, all those new devote catholics, but those weren't the ones running the overseas operations. So I guess they talked long enough to obscure right and wrong, even from their twisted perspective, and fabricate hypocrite justifications.

But it's hard to discuss the role of christianity as if it was one religion from one colonial power that stayed the same over 500 years, when that clearly wasn't the case. The Spanish theocrats with their Spanish inquisition were very different from the Dutch protestants who were in favour of freedom of religion for example, and both changed much over the centuries. The protestants were even more hypocrite, because they knew very well what was right as they acted accordingly in their homeland and for 50 years overseas too, only to end up as the ones that took the Atlantic slavetrade to a whole new level before the British dominated it. But in general the European resistance against slavery came from the devote christians with christian ethics and arguments in their churches, studies and universities in Europe, while the ships and colonies attracted a different crowd that created the overseas reality.

So you could also argue that the christians lost the fight to do what's right or at least what they truly believed was right from the people who weren't very christian. But christians do hypocrisy and looking the other way very well, both catholics and protestants in their own way, and that's a good reason in itself not to become or remain christian.

So would you say that what African Americans who consider themselves to be followers of Christ (to borrow Fireman's wording) are worshiping today, a bastardized version of the Christian religion?