Black People : African Americans in the Confederacy

[skuderjaymes]

of course their were African confederates..

​

of course their were African confederates..

But they fought under the threat of death just like their brothers in the
north. Either way, it was a chance to kill white people and it must have
felt good for a person stripped of everything a man could be stripped of
by white people.

So, let Virginia tell that story to the kids.. it will put the betrayal of the
Hayes Tilden compromise and the rise and brutality of the KKK and Jim
Crow laws all in their proper evil places.. History is rewritten every 20
years or so.. right now historians are figuring new ways to rationalize
their history into something they can be proud of. And our existence and
history in this country is a problem for every generation of historians. The
Native American problem was dealt with by extermination. So, you seldom
see anything about the brutal treatment of the Native Americans anymore..
their leadership has been bought off with gambling revenues so, now the
history books
can write in a happy capitalist ending to their plight. And they can tell the
little Native American kids that they are better off because of the white
man. And those kids, not understanding context, will agree.. that's it..
transformation complete. And the same thing is planned for us.

anyway..

This is a good topic.. I think we need a Context Commission whose mission
is to combat misinformation by publishing rebuttals to the material our
children are required to read in schools.. and distributing that information
at no cost to black families. But that would probably be comproised by the
Toms and sold to white folks too..

 

[skuderjaymes]

also.. never forget that the plantations in the south were financed by banks
in the north.. and when those loans were defaulted on and those plantations
assets were sold, our people were on that balance sheet too.. Americas
financial health as a nation was wrapped up in Slavery.. the were all co-conspirators..
Neither side was for us. And everybody that fought for either side was mislead.

 

[skuderjaymes]

i too read this article and was not surprised,i'm sure that more than a few-butlers-carriage drivers-stable boys fought for the south if for no other reason that being a house negro was all they knew and they didn't want to lose what little they had.

So, and enslaved African man with family and friends that he cared for..
with children.. is a uncle Tom because he picked up a rifle and pointed it
where his captor told him?

That sounds an awful lot like blaming the victim. We really have to work hard
to put these things into a realistic context. There historical events unfolded
one day at a time. And they unfolded in very real ways for very real people
with very real predicaments. We can't now, sweep down with our words and
chalk them up as Toms because they did what they had to do to survive
the tyranny of their captors.. Did you ever think about what role the enslaved
women and children played in the whole drama? context is everything..
really.

 

[Clyde C Coger Jr]

In the Spirit of Sankofa and Peace and Love!

Bingo!...Really hard hitting stuff brother, for real. You got me falling out of my chair and ROFL, at the sharp wisdom, pinpointing the issues...

of course their were African confederates.....Correct!

​

of course their were African confederates..

But they fought under the threat of death just like their brothers in the
north. Either way, it was a chance to kill white people and it must have
felt good for a person stripped of everything a man could be stripped of
by white people.

So, let Virginia tell that story to the kids.. it will put the betrayal of the
Hayes Tilden compromise and the rise and brutality of the KKK and Jim
Crow laws all in their proper evil places.. History is rewritten every 20
years or so.. right now historians are figuring new ways to rationalize
their history into something they can be proud of. And our existence and
history in this country is a problem for every generation of historians. The
Native American problem was dealt with by extermination. So, you seldom
see anything about the brutal treatment of the Native Americans anymore..
their leadership has been bought off with gambling revenues so, now the
history books
can write in a happy capitalist ending to their plight. And they can tell the
little Native American kids that they are better off because of the white
man. And those kids, not understanding context, will agree.. that's it..
transformation complete. And the same thing is planned for us.

anyway..

This is a good topic.. I think we need a Context Commission whose mission
is to combat misinformation by publishing rebuttals to the material our
children are required to read in schools.. and distributing that information
at no cost to black families. But that would probably be comproised by the
Toms and sold to white folks too..

 

[acitizen]

So, and enslaved African man with family and friends that he cared for..
with children.. is a uncle Tom because he picked up a rifle and pointed it
where his captor told him?

That sounds an awful lot like blaming the victim. We really have to work hard
to put these things into a realistic context. There historical events unfolded
one day at a time. And they unfolded in very real ways for very real people
with very real predicaments. We can't now, sweep down with our words and
chalk them up as Toms because they did what they had to do to survive
the tyranny of their captors.. Did you ever think about what role the enslaved
women and children played in the whole drama? context is everything..
really.

when i say i[house negro]i'm not talking in terms of uncle toms,i'm speaking of house servants some of whom actually loved thier masters,and as for this[african man]stuff remember we were over two hundred years removed from africa at that point and not every slave had nat turner's courage let's be for real.