Black People : OUR HISTORY/OUR MONUMENTS

[Orisons]

[QUOTE="Qualisha Carter-Irby, post: 974901, member: 57450" Gentrification makes it so that a black wallstreet can never again occur. Im genuinely confused on what it is you're asking me.

Like I said before, I'm aware of my history. If i wanted lectures on my people's history I would research it myself...

Im asking for meaningful solutions.. as I have offered in my question./QUOTE] Solutions which will go where, achieve what without the DO FOR SELF ethos from top to bottom that the GAP community of Tulsa so very very spectacularly exemplified?

This “gentrification” play is [happening here in London, they're after Rio de Janeiro's favella's too] a worldwide phenomenon to retake the inner cities once THEY realized that commuting from the suburbs was/is an expensive time consuming hassle whereas by making the inner cities White/middle to upper class makes it easier to police, control/exclude non-whites and Blacks; go back to feudalism with the peasants and Blacks etc outside the castle/city/metropolis, as highlighted by the surging growth of gated communities.

Don’t we in the main seem to be totally unaware of just how fortunate a generation we are as WE now have had comparably easy access to our TRUE HISTORY provided by our own scholars for over 30 years now [They Came before Columbus, The African Presence in Ancient America edited Dr Ivan van Sertima was first published in 1976], thus can you relate to my frustration at the manner in which these tools for so very efficiently purging the Euro-centric GARBAGE that is STILL so very very efficiently poisoning both our individual and collective knowledge base aren’t being widely deployed [especially our so consistently inept or just openly treacherous leadership] in our communities in the UK, USA and the rest of the Diaspora and even more crucially in Nigeria and the rest of Africa itself?

Additionally, isn’t updating the history taught in our communities and countries with the TRUTH as so very spectacularly highlighted by the 17 Olmec Heads unearthed in Mexico to date, and all of our other so very very efficiently marginalized/totally ignored African contributions to civilization/technical culture in every area of human activity over the last 5000 years a rational easy starting point; pragmatic means of purging the Euro-centric GARBAGE that has and is still so very very efficiently poisoning both our individual and collective knowledge base/stunting our spiritual and intellectual development?

With regard to the Olmec Heads, don’t you find it strange that 17 massively superb sculptures [weighing between 4 to 30 tons] highlighting an African presence in ancient Mexico as bearers to technical culture/literally the Rulers of the earliest pyramid/ceremonial platform building culture in Mexico [the Americas], is STILL being totally ignored in the 21st century; whereas won’t you concede that had the Olmec Heads been projecting/promoting a White/European presence of such antiquity [literally 400 – 1500 BCE], wouldn’t that fact have been in ALL their history books/constantly rammed down our throats 24/7 by their mass media/ propaganda machine?

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

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[Clyde C Coger Jr]

why do we have no sort of protection system/program set up so that we may preserve what is left in our homeland and eventually take back our stolen artifacts from Europe? why do none of our organizations fund this? This will become a legitimate issue if we do not find a solution.
I constantly think about Alkebulanic history and the monuments that serve to protect and teach it. Over the years I have noticed Kemetic temples are destroyed and this makes me nervous because all alkebulanics will have left over is word of mouth that teaches our history, and in this modern new world you need evidence, data, and visual proof to be believed. Europeans/whites will have all their statues of nazi doctors etc. preserved while they will have destroyed and whitewashed ours.

Gentrification makes it so that a black wallstreet can never again occur. Im genuinely confused on what it is you're asking me. Like I said before, I'm aware of my history. If i wanted lectures on my people's history I would research it myself... Im asking for meaningful solutions.. as I have offered in my question.

Welcome to Destee.com Qualisha Carter-Irby,

After carefully giving your posts a fair read, I've highlighted the central points I'd like to address below:

"... why do we have no sort of protection system/program set up so that we may preserve what is left in our homeland and eventually take back our stolen artifacts from Europe? why do none of our organizations fund this? This will become a legitimate issue if we do not find a solution."

"... Im asking for meaningful solutions.. as I have offered in my question."​

Noticeably, you've pointed out one of our biggest failures as a people group, we have few, if any, Black Institutions, beginning with the oldest; the NAACP, which is not controlled by nor exclusively for the benefit of Black folk.

Secondly, we have no National Banner under which umbrella Black folk would call a National acceptable Organization. In view of this fatal flaw, we only have the current Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement that is quasi national as well as global. So, any solution to the problems you've cited, must be framed and given to the hierarchy of BLM in the form of a white paper to act on, in my opinion.

But know that I fully understand your point of view and wholeheartedly agree with it.

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[Orisons]

[QUOTE="Clyde C Coger Jr, post: 974953, member: 12718" Welcome to Destee.com Qualisha Carter-Irby,

After carefully giving your posts a fair read, I've highlighted the central points I'd like to address below:

"... why do we have no sort of protection system/program set up so that we may preserve what is left in our homeland and eventually take back our stolen artifacts from Europe? why do none of our organizations fund this? This will become a legitimate issue if we do not find a solution."

"... Im asking for meaningful solutions.. as I have offered in my question."​

Noticeably, you've pointed out one of our biggest failures as a people group, we have few, if any, Black Institutions, beginning with the oldest; the NAACP, which is not controlled by nor exclusively for the benefit of Black folk.

Secondly, we have no National Banner under which umbrella Black folk would call a National acceptable Organization. In view of this fatal flaw, we only have the current Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement that is quasi national as well as global. So, any solution to the problems you've cited, must be framed and given to the hierarchy of BLM in the form of a white paper to act on, in my opinion.

But know that I fully understand your point of view and wholeheartedly agree with it.

... /QUOTE]

Don’t you ALL think that it is very very bizarre that the people of African ethnicity in the USA, the rest of the Diaspora and Africa are aspiring to be the only ethnicity on the Planet in human history to collectively advance without our own elite’s guidance and support [whereas haven’t our Boulé dominated socio-economic elite and their cohorts been misfiring horribly for over 100 years now]; with many of our lost, totally baffled and confused or just treacherously dysfunctional socio-economic elite/leadershipt, expecting our lower echelons/underclass [with their limited education, resources and experience] to deduce or intuit a reasonable way forward, whereas don’t the more successful ethnic groups/nations as standard utilize their most brilliant intelligentsia/ THINK TANKS, for this so very strategically vital function?

Who/what is the Boulé? ​

Steven Cokely [joined the ancestors on 11th April 2012] has done research, which has exposed the fact that over 90% of the Coloured, Negro, Black (Greek orientated as opposed to consciously African) secret societies/Freemasons in the USA and worldwide are very powerful (literally the eyes and ears within our community’s) tools of White Supremacy, as that is an integral function of their formation, funding and influence within the current social Establishment/status quo.

The leader and overall controllers of these traitors are the Boulé aka SIGMA PI PHI fraternity, Inc. They were founded May 15, 1904 in Pennsylvania making them the first Negro fraternity in the USA; as the first African American College fraternity (Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity Inc) was not founded until December 4th 1906.

The Boulé’s organisational structure is based on copying that of Yale University’s “Skull & Bones” secret Society. Its primary founder was Dr Henry Minton (along with Dr’s Eugene T Henson, Edwin Clarence Howard, Algernon Brashear Jackson, Robert Jones Abele and Richard John Warwick) of Philadelphia.

The Boulé are the so called “TALENTED 10TH” mentioned by W.E.B. Dubois who are affiliated through the Masonic Lodges they are brothers in to the COMMITTEE OF 300, a group of White Supremacist Caucasian Parasites and their AUTOMATON like lackeys of many hues; who (also call themselves the OLYMPIANS or Bilderbergers who see themselves as humanity’s elite whilst actually being a particularly malignant cancer) are literally bleeding the World to death by working very hard on fulfilling a Luciferian agenda (Humanity’s spiritual destruction, which is enhanced by Wars, poverty and racial hatred), because Lucifer/Satan is both their mentor and God.

Because they (the Boulé) are committed to maintaining the existing White Supremacist status quo, these Negroes (as opposed to REAL Africans) are projected and promoted into prominent positions, thus they are literally the wealthiest group of Negroes on the planet. However they are (4000+ of them) only allowed to position themselves in total subservience to the Caucasian Elite; thus they are not allowed (and most wouldn’t and don’t think to) to do anything to help and support African Americans in the USA, or other ethnic Africans anywhere in the Diaspora and Africa itself.

In 1994 they were known to be affiliated to 101 chapters in the World, thus as well as being extremely wealthy they have strong political connections. However their perspectives and objectives are so brutally White Supremacist that they are known to have been involved in both the organising and commissioning of the operatives that performed the assassinations of both Malcom X and Martin Luther King; as well as many other acts of despicable treachery against progressive African (American) leaders and communities in both the USA and the Diaspora.

Isn’t the American Dream in reality a nightmare [as highlighted by Donald Trump’s election as the USA’s next president] for most non-Caucasians/whites in general, African and Native American citizens of the USA in particular. The theft of the Native American’s land added to the genocide inflicted on the majority of them and our enslaved for over 300 years African ancestors [and their siblings and comrades who were tortured, mutilated and murdered for either refusing to BOW/be BROKEN, or to traumatize the rest of us into total subservience] means that as a country, isn’t it obvious the USA can only ever be at best morally bankrupt?

In the scramble for looting the wealth and resources of Africa in the 1800’s, the most powerful Europe an nations literally carved Africa up on a map to create territories expedient to their needs, with no regard as to the African peoples (who were treated worse than the lower animals whereas paradoxically cruelty to animals has never ever been sanctioned/legally acceptable) already living there which is one of the main reasons many of these so called countries; are still having difficulty functioning as viable nations today.

On their plantations in the South of the USA, White Supremacist Caucasians moulded Africans into two distinct groups, house Negroes (who were Uncle Tom types who would literally do anything to other Blacks to protect their White Masters) and field Negroes (who tended to be more disruptive as they were real Africans, thus they were worked harder and treated worse).

This so very efficient system of social control has evolved with the Boulé being the equivalent of house Negroes; in that in return for access to material wealth and prosperity, they’re not allowed to help (or show interest in rest of us) in either the individual or collective advancement of people of their own/African ethnicity. Their acquisition of wealth within the system, supposedly highlighting that the endemic Institutional Racism that blocks us collectively does not exist, and that we should all SELL-OUT by using these sometimes despicably cowardly TRAITORS as role models.

The Boulé’s New York chapter was founded by W.E.B. Dubois, who said “The Boulé was created to give the Black Professionals and financial elite guidance’, but what he meant was under control i.e. away from the growing ranks of followers of Marcus Garvey and his ilk.

From a White Supremacist Racist perspective Garvey was a living nightmare in that his organisation had over a million members; which he had achieved without the aid of radio or TV (neither of which were widely available to African Americans or anyone at that time) or mass media advertising and promotion.

W. E. Dubois and the rest of this secret society were the strongest most voiciferous Coloured, Negro, Black as opposed to consciously African opponents of Marcus Garvey, thus they utilzsed their prominent social status within our society to ridicule and undermine and eventually destroy him and this organization’s credibility.

Marcus Garvey whose innovative perspective made him the most influential thinker (Mahatma Ghandi and Ho Chi Min were inspired by and acted on his concept of Asia for the Asians, and Africa for the Africans) of the 20th century was constantly belittled and treacherously manipulated (by Boule agents) and attacked by these Negro parasites.

Garvey’s greatest and only crime; the conceptual design and actual construction of the largest most viably intelligent, strategically focused (for our long term socio-economic development) grassroots organisation of peoples of African ethnicity in the USA (and the rest of the Diaspora) rationally focused on kick starting an African Renaissance in Africa in the 20th century.

Marcus Garvey had [as did the comparably GREAT Muammar Gaddafi] very naively publicised in great detail all of his plans to take as many people of African ethnicity from the USA and the rest of the America’s to start a settlement in Liberia; which would sustain itself by helping the Liberian Africans to utilise their resources (Rubber and a range of minerals) for building their own industrial infra-structure up, instead of just selling the resources to the West at pitifully low prices which is an ongoing very tragic disastrous FIASCO, isn’t it?

He said “If the Oil of Afrika is good for the Rockerfeller’s, and the Iron is good for the Carneige Trust; these minerals are good for us. Why should we allow Wall Street and the Capitalist Groups of America and Europe to exploit Africa when they refuse to give us a fair chance in any of the countries their ancestors enslaved us to build?

Why shouldn’t Africa give the world an African Rockerfeller, Rothschild and Henry Ford”?

Marcus Garvey’s very pragmatically intelligently rational/logical agenda would have completely undermined the existing White Supremacist status quo had it been allowed to proceed, with Goodyear and US Steel and many other Multi-National Companies/Corporations so consistently obscene profitability totally compromised.

The Boulé were ordered by their white leaders/mentors/paymasters to destroy Garvey’s organisation by any means, because its success would have set the precedent that Africans (and all non Caucasians) could take control of their land and mineral wealth with a focus on using their resources for themselves/their nation's best interests; whereas don't Europeans generally, Capitalist White Supremacist Racists specifically like to have access to raw materials and natural resources (of non-whites generally, Africans especially) cheaply (or for nothing) to generate the huge profits that enhances their dominance in all areas of human activity in the 21st century.

The meaning of the Boulé Logo-Sphinx; their colours and more of their connections with Freemasonry.​

Let’s start with the Boulé’s Logo. In the background there appears to be a Sphinx, true but not truth. The Sphinx as built thousands of years ago by Africans in Kemet (Egypt) was called Her-em-akhet, which means Heru of the horizon, and has the face of the builder of the great pyramid at Giza, Khufu.

However any dictionary will explain that the Kemetian Sphinx had the face of a man with the body of a lion, while in Greek mythology it had the face of a woman with breasts and wings, whose function was that of an inquisitive malevolent guardian and protector.

In the Greek myth the Sphinx was the guardian of the city of Thebes, thus anyone going there had to answer a riddle she posed and failure to answer correctly would lead to her tearing you to pieces and devouring you. Creon, the king of Thebes wanted to get rid of this wild guardian so he offered Oedipus his crown and his daughter if he could kill the Sphinx.

Accepting the challenge Oedipus confronted the Sphinx and was asked “What has one voice, goes on four feet, on two feet and on three”. He answered “Man, who crawls on all fours as a baby, then walks on two as an adult and walks with a stick in old age”.

Because Oedipus answered the riddle correctly the Sphinx committed suicide by jumping off a cliff and Oedipus was proclaimed King of Thebes for outsmarting the beast.

The Sphinx (from an African centred perspective) is a symbolic representation of the Sphincter, which is a muscular membrane that is actually a means of protecting the human body from harmful substances and intrusions. There are eight sphincters in the body of a man and nine in a woman. There are also Spiritual Sphincters in the Ears, Navel, Breasts and Genitalia of humans. When or if we ever achieve full Spiritual maturity, we will be able to operate the spiritual Sphincters at will.

The fact that so many Coloured, Black NEGROBOT Masonic lodges and Black fraternities (like Alpha Phi Alpha) identify themselves using Greek words highlights the fact that their Sphinx is a symbolic representation of their focus of guarding and protecting our White Supremacist status quo, as opposed to being a means of (both individually and collectively) guarding and protecting Africa and Africans best interests and security throughout the World. An insight as to how effective the Boulé have been was very discretely published (other references to the spy story, Nation 5/3/93; U.S. News and World Report 4/5/93) in the Memphis Commercial Appeal 3/12/93 about the Army Spy Network, which dates back to May 3, 1911. Newton D Baker (CFR) the Secretary of War ordered Lt Ralph von Deman to set up a Black Intelligence unit to monitor ‘Negro Unrest’.

This spy unit was dominated by Boulé members, because the Army had to recruit Negros who they felt could be trusted. Emmit Scott (Boule) became Newton D Baker’s special assistant because he used his charm and intelligence to persuade many Negroes to join the Armed forces (at a time when lynching PICNICS were still a regular feature of our oppression within the USA) and function as a part of this unit spying on our community’s. He was later rewarded for his treachery by being made a Grand Sire Archon within the Boulé.

The Boulé controlled Black Press ran a story on Clifton Wharton-Former Defence Secretary of State (CFR) and Trustee of the Rockerfeller Foundation (Feb 4, 1994), highlighting his successes and promoting him as a role model for African Americans. What they didn’t mention is the fact that Clifton Wharton had hosted a Boulé convention at which David Rockerfeller (just to highlight who these mindlessly AUTOMATON like Uncle Tom type Coloured, Negro, Black as opposed to fully conscious Africans, look up to) was guest of honour.

Steven Cokely said “Yes the Boulé is in your Town. Anywhere there are prominently successful, or Professional Blacks, chances are they’re in the Boulé”.

Don’t we owe brother Cokely a huge debt for his tireless dedication and research to highlight to the masses of people of African ethnicity the fact that most of the most materially successful peoples of African descent in the USA and the Diaspora have pledged their allegiance to the White Supremacist Racist controlled Masonic Lodges, with the at the top of the pile; as opposed to being at the forefront of our fight (to gain revenge and justice for our enslaved ancestors and their tortured mutilated and murdered siblings and comrades painful suffering) for Socio-economic independence in every area of human activity.

A Boulé membership book came up with some interesting names, like Dr Daniel Hale Williams (who performed the 1st Open Heart surgery), Ralph Bunch-Former UN Ambassador, Arthur Ashe, Whitney Young-Urban League President, Martin Luther King Jr, Benjamin Mays, and Carter G. Woodson (who have all died without mentioning or acknowledging their Freeasonic fraternal connections in general, the Boulé specifically).

Maynard Jackson-ex Mayor of Atlanta, Hank Aaron-baseball great, Tom Bradley-TV Personality, Dennis Archor-Mayor of Detroit, Elvin Big ‘E’ Hayes, Bill Cosby, Jesse Jackson, Earl Graves, John H Johnson, Douglas Wiler, Lynn Swann, David Dinkins-ex Mayor of New York City are also some of the more prominent/well known members of the Boulé.

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

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[Orisons]

[QUOTE="Clyde C Coger Jr, post: 974953, member: 12718" Welcome to Destee.com Qualisha Carter-Irby,

After carefully giving your posts a fair read, I've highlighted the central points I'd like to address below:

"... why do we have no sort of protection system/program set up so that we may preserve what is left in our homeland and eventually take back our stolen artifacts from Europe? why do none of our organizations fund this? This will become a legitimate issue if we do not find a solution."

"... Im asking for meaningful solutions.. as I have offered in my question."​

Noticeably, you've pointed out one of our biggest failures as a people group, we have few, if any, Black Institutions, beginning with the oldest; the NAACP, which is not controlled by nor exclusively for the benefit of Black folk.

Secondly, we have no National Banner under which umbrella Black folk would call a National acceptable Organization. In view of this fatal flaw, we only have the current Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement that is quasi national as well as global. So, any solution to the problems you've cited, must be framed and given to the hierarchy of BLM in the form of a white paper to act on, in my opinion.

But know that I fully understand your point of view and wholeheartedly agree with it.

... /QUOTE]
Clyde, haven't you noted that the the individual who started this thread has as per normal vanished without EVER addressing any assertions/answering questions in the very very direct manner possible with this medium, which is standard cyberspace CURTROLL/BATTERING RAM in information gathering mode behaviour, isn't it?

Additionally, isn't all this GRIEF re RACISM/the ongoing white Supremacist Racist instigated and orchestrated African HOLOCAUST still being generated in the 21st century by the fact that most people generally, people of African ethnicity specifically are totally unaware of the so all pervasive/devastating impact right up to TODAY of Europe’s first technical culture’s [Greece] thinkers generally, Platonic thought’s so obviously bizarre rationale fundamentally flawed CONCEIT with regard to the very spiritually and intellectually alienated concept of OBJECTIVITY [being an even marginally plausible/rational means of viewing REALITY]?

Whereas isn’t being allegedly OBJECTIVE still utilized constantly TODAY within the current Euro-centric paradigm [all of which is analysed/superbly dissected in the book “Yurugu – An African cantered critique of European Cultural Thought and Behaviour” by Marimba Ani] to project and promote the current totally Euro-centric status quo’s ongoing onslaught on Humanity generally, people of African ethnicity specifically as highlighted by the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration, as still being the only WAY TO GO, for Humanity in the 21st century?

This so very obviously flawed profoundly delusional and ultra elitist intellectual construct [Objectivity] along with Plato’s separation of mind and body/limbic brain drivel, is what to this day continues to define Europeans/Whites as Humanity’s BRAIN, isn’t it; reducing the rest of Humanity into OBJECTS/limbs to be manipulated, controlled, culled as Europeans see fit, as opposed to human beings with the same inalienable human rights with regard freedom of expression, lifestyle and self determination in every area of human activity?

From that perspective, why should WE [non-whites generally, people of African ethnicity specifically] even consider continuing to go with their flow, as so very spectacularly highlighted by the manner in which whites generally, the KKKlansmen and their cohorts within the USA’s police specifically continue to murder African Americans without ever being censured, fired charged and jailed?

Additionally Brother, as opposed to people of African ethnicity being any more individually or collectively inept than the rest of humanity [our masses are more STUPID than the white trash how exactly], don't the status quo’s consistently corrupt mass media totally ignore/keep out of the spotlight the maliciously EVIL manner in which our intelligently focused leaders have been either sidelined like, Marcus Garvey, Kwame Nkrumah, Eric Williams or murdered by traitors or our enemies as exemplified by the death of Patrice Lumumba, Malcolm X, Dr Martin Luther King, Steve Biko, Samorah Machel, Thomas Sankara, Muammar Gaddafi [an Arab who did more for Africa than any African leader I can name, what about you] and many others; whereas aren’t the treacherous PARASITES in our communities and countries protected and encouraged as standard, by the status quo?

They/the current POWER ELITE want Dr York to remain in jail [to traumatize the rest of us] to keep the Nuwabian organization he founded leaderless as isn’t he very very obviously political/prisoner of WAR as opposed to a criminal; is it really a CRIME to aspire to organize with rational pragmatism our communities and countries?

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

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[103 ao kiji]

This is a subject that worries me also, the European is erasing all our history, there are many truths that are essential to us, and should be in our possession, it p*sses me off that these people can do what they want with our legacy, I want to read the words left behind by our ancestors myself, not someone else's interpretation, the pineal gland is explained, spirituality is also described in it's pure form, many are the wonders people wish to deny black people out of hatred, and jealousy of our inheritance, none of them have nothing so amazing to claim for themselves, so they deny us the right to these things