Black People Politics : I often wonder how Native Americans feel when they hear Donald Trump call for constructing a wall.

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  1. nilevalley

    nilevalley Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In my opinion they should be the only ones voicing opinions on who should stay and who should go.
    It was Donald Trump's and all white Americans ancestors who forced their way into this country
    and what they did to millions of Native Americans to gain power and control of this continent is
    nothing short of a "crime"

    I am wondering more and more how the majority of them feel about Trump's promise if elected
    president, he will "make" the Mexican government construct a wall across the southern border
    to keep out all hispanics and how he will deport millions of mexicans away from America. Do Native Americans go into deep thought when they hear the clown prince Trump speak of banning muslims
    from America?

    I wonder when they hear Donald Trump's anti-immigrant rants, do they visualize themselves over 500 years ago when Europeans began arrival and began their murderous swarm across North America.
    Do they say to themselves "if only we had seen the future and how our Native tribes across North America would come under attack through warfare and exposure to european diseases. How millions of Native American women. men and children would die as our nation was swept away and stolen from our hands. We would have build a 50 foot high wall from maine to florida."


    We would have banned Europeans from our American continent.

    Do you think the vast majority of them would be like this young man in this video?


     
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    I am a Native American Activist. I think that Donald Trump is an idiot but he is also a racist. Before Europeans came here we had no borders. Turtle Island was one great and beautiful Nation. If Donald Trump wants to build a wall let him do it on his dime out of his pocket. What is also messed up is that border will separate some tribes in half.
     
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    Donald Trump should build his own personal wall, around his entire body, to keep him away from the rest of America.
     
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    Amen! and add after he builds the wall around his crazy self someone should buckle a straight jacket on his body and strap a muzzle on his
    horse looking mouth.
     
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    Yes, whites can never fail to astound in their reasoning. Donald Trump greatest appeal to them is his views on race that view is divisive. When I hear him say he will make America great again. I see hear a double meaning. Making America great means making America white, There are whites posting that online too. These poor deluded people really believe that, Imagine how many decades these people have been waiting for someone like trump to appear. I know before Europeans came there were no borders. America once was in the hands of your Native American nations. For the past 240 years whites have refused to consider that one important truth.
    I hope you as an activist will encourage Native Americans not to vote for Donald Trump.He is a racist monster and I believe his irrational ideas and actions would probably would take this country to the brink of destruction. We don't need that fiend in position of president!
     
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    This topic is so so delicate, because it could easily divert into non-Mexican immigrants, that use Mexico and South America as a port in order to enter.

    That being said, consider this analogy without prejudice:

    If I come to your house, and ask for some food, would you oblige and give me sup?
    If so, then can I remain, or at least return for more?

    And if so, can I bring some friends as well?
    If not, what if we work around your house for food?

    This scenario plays out a few variables that hind-sight 20/20 would be better used, but unfortunately we can see forward from behind.

    If the conclusion of the deal is to allow for any and everyone to gain free access to your house or land, in hopes that you can provide food or shelter, then you will have to either deny this request or find the funds to accommodate the request.

    Being that some of these strangers (immigrants) would be considered nameless (undocumented), they would not be able to help or contribute to the money needed (taxes) that you could use to create the structure for them.

    Next... the land and the house.

    If you have come onto the property in the past, and forcibly removed their parents and grand parents, one could say that you shouldn't be able to reject any request for food or shelter if it was theirs to begin with. Not to mention a dang wall to keep them from access of it.

    BUT... this would create room for discriminatory practice (as if there isn't already).
    What about the darker skin people that would come in as immigrants?
    Does everyone gain free access based off of the "Native Americas People" legitimate argument?

    This wall seems to be a retarded idea on the surface, but then I ask if that fence around the sides and back of your yards is a retarded idea as well?

    Again, I am winging this at the moment, because though I initially think a wall does nothing but create an idea of protection, while overshadowing the idea of entrapment, it still doesn't seem as retarded as the "whatever, we don't care, enter freely" approach.

    If there is an alternative, nobody is really pushing it. I heard something about drones, but that seems like a level down from attaching guns to shoot people that "cross the line".

    People from Mexico have three options really when it comes to traveling out of Mexico.
    North (North America), South (South America), and Plane. Well four.. Boat as well.

    Just like South Africa did the Boors (in theory at least, many are still there), Native residents should feel a certain way of the people that come from those that evicted and killed many of their ancestors, would have any idea to protest them coming back.

    The wall idea is something similar to what they have done in Israel to keep the Gaza strip separate and safe from the "bad people".

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    Does it really matter though, because a wall will have to go through the same process as the so called Affordable Heath Care Plan, and we know how long that took, and it didn't really turn into what people were fussing about.

    Might end up looking something like this instead when it's all said and done:
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    What I do often wonder in regards to what we consider "Native Americas People", is do they engage in politics, or are they similar to the Amish when it comes to reservations?
     
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    Not sure who would be considered "Native American" in this clip, because it's so convoluted now.
     
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    I wish he would buy an island far away from here and build a wall around that island and stay there.
     
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    I totally agree with you. Donald Trump like John McCain (glad he didn't become President) are known Indian Haters. The way I see it is if anyone of color or any female votes for Trump and if he wins they will deserve what happens to them. How can someone with any reasoning vote for someone who changes his stance on things mid sentence?
     
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    Here is something you are forgetting to consider. Why is it that they only want to build a wall on the Southern Border and not the Northern Border? Could it be because those on the Southern border are brown and those on the Northern border are White? Much of what is considered America was stolen from Mexico so if you are going to build the border give them their land back. Here is another thing to consider. Building that wall will separate Native American tribes like The Yaqui on both sides of the border.
     
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