In the Spirit of Sankofa and Truth!
ru2religious,
Brother, Satan knows scripture and can preach better than anyone, lol...At this point I'm certain our dialogue is over, or at least it should be; but as promised, I'm replying to this mis-direction.
When the Apostles were figuring out how to circumcise the Gentile converts after the manner of Moses, they came up with four(4) precise requirements, so to speak and prefaced said requirements in like manner; Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were abel to bear?
Then James said, my sentence is that we trouble them not but that we write to them that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Today, animals are no longer strangled and offered as idols before the altar, which prevents any pollution thereof. This should exhaust the discussion but for what the Apostle Paul has to say on the subject of pork. And carefully, I have not submitted any Pauline references, as I ought to be able to, as a Bible believer...Peace In my brother friend, for real!
hummm - first I don't condone the eating of any meat if that is where you choose to go but that's not what I'm talking about so leave other meat out of this discussion.
Secondly, to my brotha Clyde Coger - I was once a Christian preacher, and teacher and even then I knew not to touch pork because if the scriptures teach that god is the same today, yesterday and forever more then his laws doesn't change - only those who choose to make them changes does it change for.
Interpreting the bible is as it is - anyone can do it whether your Christian or not - that is a Christian bias to assume that they have more accuracy because they fall under some religious doctrine. Point 2, in the Christian faith alone there are thousands of doctrines and interpretations about the scriptures so for any Christian to assume that they have the absolute would be a punch against another Christian who assumes the bible was written for them. What makes Clyde Coger (example) doctrine more accurate and more right over Cherryblossom? None!!! The same goes bidirectionally.
Back to the scriptures Matthew 15:11 which is the scripture Clyde Coger used is not speaking about food. It was addressing the Pharisees issue with eating with unwashed hands. This Jesus made clear in verse 20 when Peter asked him to explain the prophesy:
Matthew 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
They once believe that if your hands were dirty then that pollutes the food and thus making the food dirty aka unholy. Its not a matter about ones doctrines when discussing the bible - its about the understanding its literal meaning. Peter didn't understand so Ya`shua/Jesus cleared it up for him and everyone else who proclaims to be bible scholars.
Jesus proved his opinion of pork when he allowed the demons that possessed that man to jump into the swine and drown themselves in the river. Never once in the scriptures does it suggest that Jesus eat pork; period. That's not a none Christian interpretation that's biblical. If someone can show me where Jesus is smothering pork in gravy then I will be happy to take back what I wrote.
Demons: Jesus thought so little of that form of potential food that he run the ungodly into the swine. That was potential food to fill the hungry - but he had the demons drowned by means of the swine.
Jesus does not go against this Torah based law(s) (eating swine) and those who believe otherwise should provide resources which suggest that he does. If that can't be provided then rhetoric is ones only mission. Sounding intelligent doesn't make one intelligent on the scriptures ... proof does.
NOTE TO THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW MY WRITING STYLE - I MEAN NO HARM!!!
Clyde Coger knows my writing style so I assume he doesn't take offense to it, but if so I do not mean any bad intentions Clyde Coger.
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Medically, it has been proven time and time again that pork is bad for your health. This is a must watch video:
I tell you what I will let a Christian preacher talk about it:
Pork - is one of the biggest sellers on the food market here in United States - Project Population Control - December 31, 2009 - be aware.
Peace
Ru2religious
ru2religious,
Brother, Satan knows scripture and can preach better than anyone, lol...At this point I'm certain our dialogue is over, or at least it should be; but as promised, I'm replying to this mis-direction.
When the Apostles were figuring out how to circumcise the Gentile converts after the manner of Moses, they came up with four(4) precise requirements, so to speak and prefaced said requirements in like manner; Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were abel to bear?
Then James said, my sentence is that we trouble them not but that we write to them that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Today, animals are no longer strangled and offered as idols before the altar, which prevents any pollution thereof. This should exhaust the discussion but for what the Apostle Paul has to say on the subject of pork. And carefully, I have not submitted any Pauline references, as I ought to be able to, as a Bible believer...Peace In my brother friend, for real!