Black People : Media pushing white men and black women relationships

[KMeister]

As I said earlier, you're right about 'integration' because the slave master had no problems integrating with the black slave girls and women and as far as today, well, this government is about 400+ years old, and time will tell, but it's too soon to believe statistics right now.

I don't understand either of these statements.

On your first point: How am I "right about integration because the slave master had no problems integrating with the black slave girls and women"? What does the slave masters of the past have to do with the white male/black female relationships of today? The former were established without the black female's consent while the latter are voluntary, based on mutual consent.

On your second point: What does the government being 400+ years old have to do with white male/black female relationships, especially those portrayed in the motion pictures? I don't see any way the government is forcing or influencing people's choice of a romantic partner.

On your third point: You wrote "it's too soon to believe statistics right now." I don't understand this. Why is it too soon?

My positionn is that integration is a natural product of a free society. This reality is reflected in American culture (i.e. television programs, video games, feature films, music videos, TV commercials, print ads, etc.). I also believe because interracial relationships are more accepted today--especially by younger people, who are coveted among advertisers--we see these relationships more often in the media I mentioned earlier. I just don't see any nefarious scheme or plot against our people. Of course, some of us do love our conspiracy theories...

 

[Chevron Dove]

I don't understand either of these statements.

On your first point: How am I "right about integration because the slave master had no problems integrating with the black slave girls and women"? What does the slave masters of the past have to do with the white male/black female relationships of today? The former were established without the black female's consent while the latter are voluntary, based on mutual consent.

On your second point: What does the government being 400+ years old have to do with white male/black female relationships, especially those portrayed in the motion pictures? I don't see any way the government is forcing or influencing people's choice of a romantic partner.

On your third point: You wrote "it's too soon to believe statistics right now." I don't understand this. Why is it too soon?

My positionn is that integration is a natural product of a free society. This reality is reflected in American culture (i.e. television programs, video games, feature films, music videos, TV commercials, print ads, etc.). I also believe because interracial relationships are more accepted today--especially by younger people, who are coveted among advertisers--we see these relationships more often in the media I mentioned earlier. I just don't see any nefarious scheme or plot against our people. Of course, some of us do love our conspiracy theories...

this is no theory, this it truth, but this is getting redundant and perhaps you don't understand because it's not your plight.

As in all governments that have lasted for hundreds of years, their foundation connects to their existence no matter how long that government exist! So relationships today are formed based upon past relationships and what happened in the past. Even though Black women and girls were raped by the Slave Masters, it is a common truth that has been reported in so many aspects in regards to how many Black females began to view the White man and/or slave master in terms of getting a better life and escaping the hardships of slavery and such, and also having their lighter skinned offspring in hope as being viewed and treated better than the darker skinned presence in America during yes, even chattel slavery times as well s today! That is no conspiracy theory. This mindset affects us today in how many Black women regard White men. White Supremacy has been forced upon us in many ways and today's relationships are absolutely based upon the past. No, that is not a theory at all.

You may see 65 year couples that are Black women and White men and that have been married for over 40 years on a wide scale, but as of yet, I haven't seen NOT one! I'm sure there must be some, but statistically, it ain't happening now. So yes, it's too soon to believe these statistics right now.

 

[KMeister]

this is no theory, this it truth, but this is getting redundant and perhaps you don't understand because it's not your plight.

As in all governments that have lasted for hundreds of years, their foundation connects to their existence no matter how long that government exist! So relationships today are formed based upon past relationships and what happened in the past. Even though Black women and girls were raped by the Slave Masters, it is a common truth that has been reported in so many aspects in regards to how many Black females began to view the White man and/or slave master in terms of getting a better life and escaping the hardships of slavery and such, and also having their lighter skinned offspring in hope as being viewed and treated better than the darker skinned presence in America during yes, even chattel slavery times as well s today! That is no conspiracy theory. This mindset affects us today in how many Black women regard White men. White Supremacy has been forced upon us in many ways and today's relationships are absolutely based upon the past. No, that is not a theory at all.

Actually, the above opinion is really just that, an opinion; definitely not fact. I don't agree with you that this "mindset" as you call it, that black women see relationships with white men as a way to get a better life, get lighter skin children and escape hardship, exists to a great degree today in the 21st century. If that were the case why don't we see more black women trying to get white men? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

You may see 65 year couples that are Black women and White men and that have been married for over 40 years on a wide scale, but as of yet, I haven't seen NOT one! I'm sure there must be some, but statistically, it ain't happening now. So yes, it's too soon to believe these statistics right now.

The stats I quoted didn't make any claim about 65 year old white male/black female marriages that lasted over 40 years. However, the stats indicated that white male/black females marriages lasted longer than the other combinations when checking past 10 years.

Research also indicates for whatever reason, blacks (i.e. black male/black female) have a higher rate of divorce than the other same race marital groups. (I could hunt for the stats if you like.) So statistically speaking, when it comes to longevity, sistahs who choose white males as husbands are more likely to be in marriages that last. I don't know why. Also, since white males do earn higher incomes and possess more wealth than any other racial group, sistahs who choose them as life partners would (again, statistically speaking) be placing themselves on more solid financial ground. That may explain some of what's going on, but I still suspect MOST of what's going on is just plain ol' proximity breeds affection.

 

[Inanna]

Chevron Dove said:
"...it is a common truth that has been reported in so many aspects in regards to how many Black females began to view the White man and/or slave master..."

Did you just make that up? A common truth? A reported common truth no less? Reported where? Common to who?

"...in terms of getting a better life and escaping the hardships of slavery and such, and also having their lighter skinned offspring in hope as being viewed and treated better than the darker skinned presence in America during yes, even chattel slavery times as well s today! That is no conspiracy theory..."

If its not a theory or a conspiracy theory, then what credible source gave you that information? Im actually curious, especially since you dont seem to believe in statistics. How and where then did you get this divine information?

 

[IntuitioninMD_2]

I have dated many different types of men....that were all born men and still are men. I have found that many of the Black men I dated did not want a real commitment or they wanted to get married because they were way older than me and did not have many good sex years left. I also realized that I excused many inappropriate behaviors and should have kept my expectations of them high. I allowed myself to be involved in buddy like situations. I wrote a poem about these experiences. It was called 'Mr. BLACKMAN PLEASE FORGIVE ME.' It was one of the number one poems on this site. This poem was directed to this Black man that I thought I loved. I had to love me first and dealt with the reality that we will never get married. I decided that he was going to be my last buddy. The next man that courted me was a White man and I told him from the beginning that I want a husband and not a buddy. We have been married for almost 10 years. Unfortunately, in our community we continue to glorify promiscuity and false commitments. Yes, I enjoy looking at Scandal, but I do not like Olivia playing the whore. I enjoy How to Get Away with Murder, but was again the lead is unfaithful. I am hoping that Shonda will eventually write a script about a faithful interracial couple. I think both of you should have seeked counseling before you broke up. We want to be portrayed as desirable and sexy, but I do not think that should equate to whoredom. But, the media is recognizing that there is an increase in White men and Black women relationships. This is really good. Black men have dated outside the race for a very long time, but for different reasons. Love.... not lust....should be colorblind.

You know I've been kind of gone for a minute because a contract that I'm working is consuming much of my time - but with that being said - I'm glad to be back.

Now to the point of this thread. So I started dating this sista and have been for the last 8 months give or take and when we got together she ACTED like we share a lot of points of views. Recently, I've been faced with the harsh reality that we don't and one of the ways is through media.

I've noticed that she likes to watch a lot of TV which I have absolutely no problem with but what I'm paying attention to is the shows that she likes to watch such as Scandal, The Flash and some daytime soap-operas. What I've noticed about all of these shows that all of the sistas that act in them have white boyfriends or husbands. Now to some that might not seem like anything special but it is - it appears that the media is pushing this ideology that the white man is the best thing moving for black women. So here it is - I'm doing some work on my computer and she has on one of those Scandal shows and she turns to me and says "y`all black men better be careful - these white boys are starting to look good and they are taking over" and then she laughed as though she though I would find amusement in her proclamation. So I stopped and asked her "what do you mean by that statement" and she said "exactly what I said, these white boys are coming up" but what she really meant to say is that "these white boys are taking over where the black man is failing".

Me being who I am sat my computer to the side and started watching the show and was heated internally. She has all of these shows recorded on her cable system. So then I sat there and said "I'm going to watch what you are going to watch next" I literally put my work to the side to see what's really going on. So then she puts on this soap-opera and it had a black woman who has this white boyfriend but then there was a secret she was holding, she's really a black man. So I turned and looked at her in disqust and asked her "why would you watch this type of mess if your supposedly conscious as you told me you are. Do you see what they are doing - they are attacking black women and black men at the same time. That same show had one black couple but guess what - he's a criminal and works for the mob and his woman is an FBI agent. You know they are not going to paint a good picture of black men. Anywho, the black woman is really a black man and they have her acting this part.

This particular show has a black man that is a criminal and a black woman who is really a black man. humm... Then she put it on the flash and my cousin (Candice Patton) lead role is dating a white cop but she's in love with the white super-hero 'The Flash'. I'm sitting here in awww as I began to question even more. She said well you black men just want to hurt us and these white men are coming through saving the day. I said, "Is that so while gathering my things..." and went home.

She keeps calling me and I've made it real clear that she's needs to get one of those white boys that's coming up... You see the media is killing our women brains - statistics show the black women watch more TV than any other people. Our women are constantly subjected to white washing and now they are making excuses for white male behavior. She works and she comes home complaining about how the white males at her job treat her like she's a slave and that they are being racist but when she watches TV she has that glowing smile on her face as she becomes swept off her feet by the romanticism that is shown by the white boy to the black women.

How do we address this issue? How do we show our women that this is all B/S? When you take the black women out - then you've taken out the entire race - and they are working on the black women now. I don't want to hear nothing about the black man and white women because statistic show that black men are more likely to marry a black woman than any other woman. Why are the force feeding black women this B/S. Why are they turning black women into black men or black men into black women? They are feminizing the black male at the same time putting that black feminine male with a white male.

Its like this:

1.) black women with white males -
2.) transgender black males to female with white male -
3.) black male criminal and his black FBI female is going to take him out -
4.) white male is the super-hero and she love him and other white male
5.) black rich girl gets with white successful male
6.) black male ask transgender black male for hand in marriage but is rejected because white male is more suitable for black transgender male

I mean the messages being sent through these TV shows are nothing more than pure evil with an assignment to destroy. Our black women are more likely to watch these show than any other show.