Black People : How was the civil rights movement a grassroots effort

[HODEE]

If you lived 1860 could read and knew the laws that took 100 more years to be enforced were on the books. What would you have done?

Those " BLACK DO NOTHING CONGRESSMAN" were busy being used to shore up party support in congress at that time and did nothing.

They probable never saw a BILL like the Congress does today. Just going along like a sheep. That is not the government we elected.

If they don't want to read, be informed and do right. We should tell them. Get up, put up or get out.

Try going to school and not reading looking for diploma. They are doing worse.

If we don't make all of congress this included that conservative group. Represent American's especially us all AFRICAN American's and stop balancing the decisions they make against helping doing the right thing.

It does not matter what state they reside in. It is a oath that is for the entire country as a union. It reads that the oath says American's.

This is using what you have been given to get what you want and need.

Or better using what they gave you use against them. WORD!


That oath they take is violated and they are automatically dispelled. Like a kid out of class. LAW

 

[HODEE]

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinn17explo.html


There was a small amount of change and a lot of publicity. There were more black faces in the newspapers and on television, creating an impression of change-and siphoning off into the mainstream a small but significant number of black leaders.

Some new black voices spoke against this. Robert Allen (Black Awakening in Capitalist America) wrote:

If the community as a whole is to benefit, then the community as a whole must be organized to manage collectively its internal economy and its business relations with white America. Black business firms must be treated and operated as social property, belonging to the general black community, not as the private property of individual or limited groups of individuals. This necessitates the dismantling of capitalist property relations in the black community and their replacement with a planned communal economy. ​

A black woman, Patricia Robinson, in a pamphlet distributed in Boston in 1970 (Poor Black Woman), tied male supremacy to capitalism and said the black woman "allies herself with the have- nots in the wider world and their revolutionary struggles." She said the poor black woman did not in the past "question the social and economic system" but now she must, and in fact, "she has begun to question aggressive male domination and the class society which enforces it, capitalism."

We make History they make money. We didn't make History they still made money.

 

[HODEE]

How do you get people to see that it has to be a change in the way they live -- not just something they believe, but something they do?

 

[Omowale Jabali]

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinn17explo.html


There was a small amount of change and a lot of publicity. There were more black faces in the newspapers and on television, creating an impression of change-and siphoning off into the mainstream a small but significant number of black leaders.

Some new black voices spoke against this. Robert Allen (Black Awakening in Capitalist America) wrote:

If the community as a whole is to benefit, then the community as a whole must be organized to manage collectively its internal economy and its business relations with white America. Black business firms must be treated and operated as social property, belonging to the general black community, not as the private property of individual or limited groups of individuals. This necessitates the dismantling of capitalist property relations in the black community and their replacement with a planned communal economy. ​

A black woman, Patricia Robinson, in a pamphlet distributed in Boston in 1970 (Poor Black Woman), tied male supremacy to capitalism and said the black woman "allies herself with the have- nots in the wider world and their revolutionary struggles." She said the poor black woman did not in the past "question the social and economic system" but now she must, and in fact, "she has begun to question aggressive male domination and the class society which enforces it, capitalism."

I read this earlier, tried to sleep on it, but it doesn't sit well with me. So, I ask, what do you think about Robinson's assessment?

I tried finding some related articles, all related to the "woman's liberation movement" and the white left. Is this what happens? Despite the grass roots efforts of black men at the time, we we get lumped together with the white male ruling class?

It seems then that we lost this war, if that is the case. All those efforts seemingly down the drain and now on the back burner while the LGBT agenda is at the fore. And I don't see them as a vanguard, revolutionary force in solidarity with us, Black men. Wow. What kind of class analysis is that? The little piece that I dead read by Robinson, she wrote a message to "poor Black men", blaming them for ....? As if poor Black men are power brokers in this society. smh.,,

 

[Therious]

The grass roots of the movement was getting from the back of the bus and train and possibly being treated with the respect we are still needing as a people. The grass root were my mother refusing to settle cleaning hotel rooms for the rest of her life. The struggle was allowing Black bus drivers people who wanted to do that an opportunity.
it was to halt the police brutality, the right to vote, the justice system needed to change, along with education and the system was challenged. Point to one thing today our generation has accomplished to better the process that can be changed. We do a lot of reading, say a few speeches and nothing changes. do offer a history without some kind of future to drive for more history. Because the next second is gone and all that is is history.

To term it all as socialist movement is like a Republican saying that the blacks are democrats and we will never support anything that involves that party. As true as that is it is not acceptable. we are in society and we are attempting to get along. So it involves be social. we pay taxes and that is a social construct. if you could provide more I would appreciate it. Labeled boxes ending with IST / ISM on them is limiting.

Please expound on the bogus aspect please. I may not know how bogus it was. I can and would like to know the truth.

populist
constructionist etc...

Part of the current problem was spawned by the CRM. Meaning people fought for better "jobs" , and a better seat on the bus when they should have been creating jobs and manufacturing or at least owning buses etc.