Black People : Is there a connection between Islam and Black wealth?

[Asomfwaa]

Islamic Arabs made it a practice to convert African Kings into Islam where alliances were such that the Kings would receive Commodities for People.

Classical African Kings are recorded as crying over the 'interest' on loans they received. For "interests" meant "enslaved people."

Islam and Christianity have more financial ties with Arab and European powers; than ATR. More, Islam and Christianity are estimated to make up over 80% of Africa. Technically, by Arab and European standards they would be more wealthy: after all, you're using the standard of global wealth.

A Plantation owner is rich, but the Plantation workers are not--so is the Plantation rich?

 

[Knowledge Seed]

Islamic Arabs made it a practice to convert African Kings into Islam where alliances were such that the Kings would receive Commodities for People.

Classical African Kings are recorded as crying over the 'interest' on loans they received. For "interests" meant "enslaved people."

Islam and Christianity have more financial ties with Arab and European powers; than ATR. More, Islam and Christianity are estimated to make up over 80% of Africa. Technically, by Arab and European standards they would be more wealthy: after all, you're using the standard of global wealth.

A Plantation owner is rich, but the Plantation workers are not--so is the Plantation rich?

It's actually interesting that you brought ATRs into this discussion.

Maybe I should clarify something. Africans, in general, incorporate their ATR beliefs and traditional ancestral practices into Islam. You can see this in practice by observing the Talismans that members of the Mouride Brotherhood wear or the divination practices of Imams in Mali or the summoning of ancestral spirits by Sundiata Keita in his fight to regain his throne.

So I guess my question is, does Islam, as practiced in this distinctly African manner, have a connection to Black wealth?

 

[Asomfwaa]

It's actually interesting that you brought ATRs into this discussion.

Maybe I should clarify something. Africans, in general, incorporate their ATR beliefs and traditional ancestral practices into Islam. You can see this in practice by observing the Talismans that members of the Mouride Brotherhood wear or the divination practices of Imams in Mali or the summoning of ancestral spirits by Sundiata Keita in his fight to regain his throne.

So I guess my question is, does Islam, as practiced in this distinctly African manner, have a connection to Black wealth?

It is known that Islam and Christianity already incorporated African elements. There is no issue having an African presence, what's an issue is having a European or Asian presence.

But seeing how you mention wealth for a Global Market, it's clear that a Global Philosophy would be more profitable than a Local Philosophy. Either way, it's estimated that there are three times as many Christians and three times as many Muslims than Africans who practice traditional religions and those two former are more monolithic and globally connected.

The question only becomes "What is Wealth?" which also brings into question "What is Exploitation?"

Is a Wealth to be celebrated that exploits African people. I think of the scene where boys are in the Congo with guns by their heads; the gunman are wealthier than the boys. This is Christian Africa.

In Somalia, African men offer their sisters and daughters to Asian men of Islam. These women are ceremoniously group raped; their daughters brutally circumcised to never real the joys of sex. Some of these women become third wives of rich men; but are they wealthy?

I discuss plantations to discuss farms. On a farm, a chicken is well-fed, better fed than wild chickens, but after so many years his head is cut off. Is there a rich chicken? Is there a rich African Muslim?

 

[Omowale Jabali]

It's actually interesting that you brought ATRs into this discussion.

Maybe I should clarify something. Africans, in general, incorporate their ATR beliefs and traditional ancestral practices into Islam. You can see this in practice by observing the Talismans that members of the Mouride Brotherhood wear or the divination practices of Imams in Mali or the summoning of ancestral spirits by Sundiata Keita in his fight to regain his throne.

So I guess my question is, does Islam, as practiced in this distinctly African manner, have a connection to Black wealth?

Yes it does but keep something in mind. In the case of the Mouride in Senegal, the Brotherhood operates as a collective, contracts with the government and controls about half of the country's groundnut production.


They also are heavily influenced by Sufism. The African Sufis in many countries such as Mali, Libya and Somalia are under attack by Salafists and other predominantly, orthodox, Sunni orders or brotherhoods.'

So when you speak of Africans and Islam there is a cultural divide within Islam that alot of Muslims outside of Africa are not dealing with.

 

[Asomfwaa]

To answer the question I would answer "No."

Because Black Wealth will not come from anything besides African Consciousness. Insomuch as the Wild, starving Chicken is richer than the Caged, fully-fed Chicken.

"The body is the house of God. That is why it is said, “Man know thyself.”" -- KMT Proverb.

I shouted that phrase on the streets to little effect. But it is important. Knowledge of Self for our people comes from acknowledging the highest human authorities as African. As it were, fundamentally Major Religions do the opposite; despite how strongly African influenced they are.

Up your alley is this quotation which may be a fabrication:

"'Capgemini and Merrill Lynch estimate in their latest World Wealth Report that Africa has about 100,000 “high net worth individuals” with a total of $1.2 trillion in liquid assets. The debts, on the other hand, are owed by the African people as a whole through their governments.'"

http://www.financialtaskforce.org/2012/03/01/elites-loot-africa-while-foreign-debt-mounts/

If true, these Africans hold a lot of 'wealth,' to the order of $120 million each. But do they have Knowledge of Self?

It is like this--Is a Trained Tiger, who lets men survive in circus acts, really a Tiger? The 'elite' world is fitting cultures unlike our own. What is an African without her culture?