Black People : India and Africa connection

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  1. Indian

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    As you may know when black people left africa, india was the first place they came to and settled, now with time and the many many invasions of india by white people and middle easterners, india(north india) in paticular has become hybrid(mix) race, but despite these onslaught and killings by these people, the original black have survived in pockets around indian and on islands just beside india

    Ancestoral South Indians who originally inhabited much of south asia some 20000-30000 years ago were actually africans. The proof of this lies on the east coast of india, on the Andaman and Nicobar islands:

    Andaman islands lie in the middle of bay of bengal east of india and this is what they look like, 100% african:

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    ^ these people are basically ancestors of all dark skinned indians:

    Ancestral South Indians were a postulated ancient people who are considered to be one of the two main populations that contributed to the genetic heritage of modern-day South Asian ethnic groups.[1][2] They are believed to have been genetically unique and not closely related to any other human populations in the world.[2] Of all modern-day Indians, only the Andamanese are believed to possess Ancestral South Indian lineage without admixture of any Ancestral North Indian genetic heritage.[2]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestral_South_Indians


    more info on them from this article: http://knol.google.com/k/the-little-...daman-islands#



    A Negrito Tribe of tiny but fierce Pygmies , the Jarawa Tribe, of the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean, provides an excellent example of what modern humans were like when they first emerged out of Africa. Genetic evidence hints at a Negrito presence on the Andaman Islands in India going back more than 30,000 years, and possibly reaching as far back as 60,000 years. It is thought that the surviving Negritos are a remnant population representing an early ( perhaps the earliest ) migration of modern Homo Sapiens out of Africa

    The language that the Negritos of the Andaman Islands speak, is a part of the "Malay-Australoid" group of languages, which interestingly is related to the language of the large island of Madagascar, which is located off the east coast of Southern Africa. This shows that there was a linguistic connection to Africa as well as Southeast Asia, and the Australian Aborigines. Recent analysis of the DNA of the "Great Andamanese" (one of the other three tribes of Negritos on the Andaman Islands) shows that they are genetically very close to the "Bushmen' or "Pygmies" of South Africa. This shows that the Andaman Tribes came from the South of Africa and the island of Madagascar. The Negritos must have originally been the dominate stone culture of Southern Africa, until the "big people" from the North invaded and took over the land, pushing them out. Perhaps they turned to the sea as a source of food because they were unable to compete for food with the "big people", or because the land was too barren to support them. On the mainland of Southern Africa, they would have been absorbed, driven out, or killed by the "big people", or forced to live where there were no "big people" like the African Pygmies who survived... But those with boats could have populated Madagascar and been the dominant culture of Madagascar long after the mainland was over run by the "big people". Then when the "big people" did get boats and began to arrive in small groups, they would not have had the strength of numbers to drive out or kill the "little people", but instead were assimilated into the population, so that some of the language of the little people lives on in Madagascar, even to this day.

    If the Negritos were the first, or one of the first, waves of modern man to migrate out of Africa, and assuming they did it in small boats... They would have been the dominate culture along the coasts and islands of Asia. This seems likely because their language is linked with many ancient languages of the area. They are probably ancestors of the dark skinned peoples of Southern India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, The East Indies, and even the Australian Aborigines. They were probably the dominate culture of many of these area, until once again, invaders from the north over ran and absorbed them, killed them, or pushed them off the mainland, and off the most desirable islands. But on some islands, the Negritos retreated to remote valleys, and mountain refuges, where they lingered on, out of sight of the "big people". And on some isolated remote islands ( like the Andaman Islands ) that were considered uninhabited , they continued to survive undisturbed
     
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    There are many african tribes left in the jungles of india and islands of the coast of india, these people are called Onge:

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    The sad thing is that, they can go any where in the world and may face racial discrimination or class opression

    but in India they face the worst opression of all

    the Caste system that dooms them for life!
    And never recieve respect, only derision or pity


    As a Black man I identify and embrace them as well as those with straight hair thin lips and narrow noses

    taking the train to work for over 15 years , a train that went to a predominantly Trni and Guyanese Indian neighborhood,
    I found it amazing how many folks from there ,
    where darker then me.


    According to the massive land grabs in Punjab, according to activist Vandana Shiva,
    hundreds of thousands have lost everything and the invasion of Monsanto, with government support, has driven many farmers to commit suicide in desperation and despair

    therefore who knows what the fate of these folks in these pictures will be in the next few months.

    The brutality in "Slum Dog Millionaire" and class hatred, is common place, and slavery is still very legal there in India,

    still the Dalets are waging a civil rights struggle such as we had in the 60s

    Like the Chinese, Indians are very beautful and positive people, most that I have come to know over 30 years

    but just like here it is their governments that have a bad name!
     
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    ^ i agree, the caste system is the worst curse in the world. The thing is, even the higher castes have black dna in them, but they dont realise it, they have been brainwashed by the british and other europeans to think they are (aryans) and some superior race, maybe one day they will open their eyes and get rid of this european colonial mindset and embrace themselves
     
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    Indian ... they are beautiful pictures and i appreciate you sharing them, along with the information i did not know.

    Thank you for joining us and please make yourself at home, because you are.

    Much Love and Peace.

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    ^ thanks sister
     
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    The Negrito migrations
    Human migration map based on mitochondrial DNA. Note the route of the mtDNA haplogroup M through the Indian mainland and the Andaman Islands, possibly on to Southeast Asia.One narrative, largely based on genetic research, describes Negritos, similar to the Andamanese adivasis of today, as the first identifiable human population to colonize India, likely 30-65 thousand years before present (kybp).[7][8] This first colonization of the Indian mainland and the Andaman Islands by humans is theorized to be part of a great coastal migration of humans from Africa along the coastal regions of the Indian mainland and towards Southeast Asia, Japan and Oceania.[7] 60% of all modern Indians share the mtDNA haplogroup M, which is universal among Andamanese islander adivasis and might be a genetic legacy of the postulated first Indians.[9] A 2010 study by the Anthropological Survey of India and the Texas-based Southwest Foundation for Biomedical Research identified seven genomes from 26 isolated "relic tribes" (sic) from the Indian mainland, such as the Baiga, which share "two synonymous polymorphisms with the M42 haplogroup, which is specific to Australian Aborigines." These were specific mtDNA mutations that are shared exclusively by Australian aborigines and these Indian tribes, and no other known human groupings.[10]
     
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