Black People : 400 years later, Africans; still captured and enslaved? Where's the Outrage?

[Enki]

this is about questioning what is the cause of our particlar complacency as the only people in the history of the world to have been removed by the millions from our ancestral home, raped of our culture, in most cases, families destroyed,and enslaved for 300 years.

I think the complacency may come from a number of things,one could be our knowledge of how many Africans despise black Americans. Another could be that we feel no real connection to Africa seeing how we were born,raised,and educated here in America as well as other parts of the world. But I think it maybe the fact that corruption is widespread in Africa,not that this makes it any different than any other country when it comes to this,but it is a factor. Firstly, for the dictatorial regimes ruling nearly everywhere, the ideal conditions exists for corruption. You have an absence of control by the government and public opinion and press allows presidents and generals and their gangs of followers to create personal monopolies and dirty businesses in all economic activities and services and the sex trade is one of them.

The world has shown outrage before about issues that existed in Africa but as soon as one gets resolve another one pops up and in reality,black in America have enough on their plate these days. If it's any problems that we should solve it should be ours first,then we can be in a moral position to point the finger and condemn immoral acts by our African brothers.

They have they the power an ability to solve these problem themselves.They are in a better position than we are to effect change in their country.

Peace!

 

[Ankhur]

I think the complacency may come from a number of things,one could be our knowledge of how many Africans despise black Americans. Another could be that we feel no real connection to Africa seeing how we were born,raised,and educated here in America as well as other parts of the world. But I think it maybe the fact that corruption is widespread in Africa,not that this makes it any different than any other country when it comes to this,but it is a factor. Firstly, for the dictatorial regimes ruling nearly everywhere, the ideal conditions exists for corruption. You have an absence of control by the government and public opinion and press allows presidents and generals and their gangs of followers to create personal monopolies and dirty businesses in all economic activities and services and the sex trade is one of them.

The world has shown outrage before about issues that existed in Africa but as soon as one gets resolve another one pops up and in reality,black in America have enough on their plate these days. If it's any problems that we should solve it should be ours first,then we can be in a moral position to point the finger and condemn immoral acts by our African brothers.

They have they the power an ability to solve these problem themselves.They are in a better position than we are to effect change in their country.

Peace!

In nations where education is a luxury,
and a continent where only 8 out of 53 nations have public free education and the median income of the average cousin over there is
200 dollars a month

We here as Africans have a duty to our ancestors , while we sit here withthe most advanced communications technology in our pockets, 24/7 and a trillion dollar spending dollar, freedom of speech and freedom of economic soldarity and assistance.

I dont know how anyone with a gun to their childs head can do anything about anything living under a dictatorship or a stooge to the former coplonizer

The white man thinks globally

we as Black people did 80 years ago, with Garvey reaching Black folks in 3 languages even under colonization in the Motherland

with no technology!!!!!!!!!!


so what is the beef now?????????????????????????????????

 

[Enki]

In nations where education is a luxury,
and a continent where only 8 out of 53 nations have public free education and the median income of the average cousin over there is
200 dollars a month

True,but we still have to go back to the government.Why did Oprah have to spend $40 million to build a school? Look at who rich in resource Africa is,instead of letting De'beers rob them they should say to them and other white corporation that if they want to do business in Africa,fund projects like these.

We here as Africans have a duty to our ancestors , while we sit here withthe most advanced communications technology in our pockets, 24/7 and a trillion dollar spending dollar, freedom of speech and freedom of economic soldarity and assistance.

Ok,we've also have had slavery to deal with and lack of equal rights. Is this a case of "you blues ain't like mine"? You don't think that Africa has it's own rich and elite? People that can directly effect change in Africa,people that can put pressure on the government.

I dont know how anyone with a gun to their childs head can do anything about anything living under a dictatorship or a stooge to the former coplonizer

Wouldn't you say that issues and the current situation that our kids face here in America can be viewed in the same manner? It's a matter of semantics.

The white man thinks globally

we as Black people did 80 years ago, with Garvey reaching Black folks in 3 languages even under colonization in the Motherland

with no technology!!!!!!!!!!


so what is the beef now?????????????????????????????????

Different time and a different world. Black unity was more visible and felt back then,then it is now. Look how bruthas treat black women as oppose to white women,look how black men be the perfect father to kids of white women as opposed to their own. Where is our unity? And if we can't even solve these basic problems of ours over here,how can we even begin to solve theirs?


BTW,I feel you are correct in asking us this question.

Peace!

 

[Ankhur]

True,but we still have to go back to the government.Why did Oprah have to spend $40 million to build a school? Look at who rich in resource Africa is,instead of letting De'beers rob them they should say to them and other white corporation that if they want to do business in Africa,fund projects like these.


Ok,we've also have had slavery to deal with and lack of equal rights. Is this a case of "you blues ain't like mine"? You don't think that Africa has it's own rich and elite? People that can directly effect change in Africa,people that can put pressure on the government.



Wouldn't you say that issues and the current situation that our kids face here in America can be viewed in the same manner? It's a matter of semantics.




Different time and a different world. Black unity was more visible and felt back then,then it is now. Look how bruthas treat black women as oppose to white women,look how black men be the perfect father to kids of white women as opposed to their own. Where is our unity? And if we can't even solve these basic problems of ours over here,how can we even begin to solve theirs?


BTW,I feel you are correct in asking us this question.

Peace!

No they do not have their own rich and elite, those rich and elite are owned by the white man so how can an economic slave free anyone enslaved,
becuase if they did then it would have stopped yesterday,



Oprah is a beautiful capitalist sister who came a long wat to where she is, and we should honor that and respect that, but since she was brought up on a post about modern day slavery ,

let's be honest

with the eyes of the world on her . how much would it take out of her pocketbook ,


to at least have a special on this subject?

And lets be clear the life and future of poor and working class Black youth in the United States and back home in the Motherland is not about semantics but about facts.

Anyything like the RGB Unit or Immortal Technique would not only be assasinated in 40 nations there but their parents and neighbors as well

I dont understand why it is so importnt to you and your conversation to see a difference in Black people regardless of where on the globe???

The only reason why every Black youth in the US is not concerned about the life and hell of every Black youth in the Motherland has to do with propaganda

not nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arrested Development has been banished as well as the X Klan, Paris and Immortal Technique from the airwaves,

and there are no Afrocentric centers of education in the Black community as there were when I was youth,
when Hugh Masekela, Mariam Makeba and Olotunji where household names
and sisters wore gaelehs and bubahs to church and brothers wore dashikis

To a people with culture there is no such thing as time!

time is a construct of capitalist business structures, that must be adjucated and monitored by union laws and by laws that predicare overtime pay and night differential,
to prevent the oligarchy from enforceing wage slavery

and in regards to radical pan Africanism and the urgency of economic Sankofa

time is running out, unless we on both sides of the Atlantic reject Europhile concepts and embrace Afrocentricity at least ecomonicaly
and communications wise

In all due respect I feel that those of
African born grandparents need to leave emotions out of this and look at this situation in the hisorical context of the global opression and disenfrachisement of African people on the past 400 years, and fully understand the concept of

an injury to one Africna is an injury to all Africans,
whether one likes that concept or not

Sometimes we have to sacrifice our personal likes and dislikes for the basic good and advancement of the race

Is this about well , "nobody do squat about this issue becuase it may embarass some folks so"

just let this continue???????????????????????????????????????

becuase it may hurt someones ego to face this my cousins must suffer
???????????????????????????

And when I say cousins i am speaking scientific and gentci facts becausae every African American whose ancestors were kidnapped hhere to thi strange and genocide cleared land of the First American Nations,
still after 400 years have blood relatives there

AN INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO ALL!!!!

 

[Enki]

No they do not have their own rich and elite, those rich and elite are owned by the white man so how can an economic slave free anyone enslaved,
becuase if they did then it would have stopped yesterday,

This is a cop-out statement and generalizing. Not all are owned by the white man.

Oprah is a beautiful capitalist sister who came a long wat to where she is, and we should honor that and respect that, but since she was brought up on a post about modern day slavery ,

let's be honest

with the eyes of the world on her . how much would it take out of her pocketbook ,


to at least have a special on this subject?

I don't see you holding black entertainment as a whole to this same standard,why single her out? Also does help and aid to a country has to be televised? Many blacks help out in other ways,I won't waste time naming any because you will only say that they are the white man's slave because acknowledging them disproves your point.

And lets be clear the life and future of poor and working class Black youth in the United States and back home in the Motherland is not about semantics but about facts.

It's semantics,like it or not. One can say that the white man has blinded you to the plight and dire straits your own people are in right here in America. It's the old diversion tactic.

I dont understand why it is so importnt to you and your conversation to see a difference in Black people regardless of where on the globe???

Man wake up!! Do you think we are a monolithic race? Have you been to Africa ever in your life? I have, several times and they are the same as us. Some like us,some hate us,and some view us a a world apart. Look at the response you are getting to this thread? Only me and you are talking, where is everybody else. I'll tell you where,they are responding to a thread by a white that is asking them to guess where he/she is from. Now ask yourself why is that?

The only reason why every Black youth in the US is not concerned about the life and hell of every Black youth in the Motherland has to do with propaganda

not nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is your opinion...

Arrested Development has been banished as well as the X Klan, Paris and Immortal Technique from the airwaves,

And why is this,is it do to many of us rejecting the message they are trying to convey over luda,Lil Wayne,Justin Beeber? We gave the white man the power to do this,It goes through me when I hear blacks calling in and requesting the DJ to play "I got 5 on it".

But hey,we are not in trouble when you have mothers teaching their 2 yr old how to smoke weed and god knows what else. We are not in trouble when many of us are behind bars and many are dropping out of school. Everything is just A-ok.

and there are no Afrocentric centers of education in the Black community as there were when I was youth,
when Hugh Masekela, Mariam Makeba and Olotunji where household names
and sisters wore gaelehs and bubahs to church and brothers wore dashikis

I know when this started,and guess what,we let it happen.We didn't lobby,protest or come together or anything of that sort to have/keep something that was for us and about us. What is with this "blame game" that you seem to love playing? Africa is poor and in bad shape so it's black American's fault,there is no black unity,it's back American' fault,haven't we been blame enough for this we've had nothing to do with?

Think about what I asked which is why is your thread getting little to no response and a silly thread created by a white has 4 to 5 pages of blacks responding to it. People are viewing but they are looking at their own lives and problems and have no time to worry about a place they really know nothing of and see it as "some place over there". And that's the real of it.

Like I said,I think you asked a good question,but blacks in America is not responsible for the plight of blacks in Africa,especially when the governments of those countries are creating the situation.

If you want to point the finger,point it at politics.

Peace!