I understand what you are alluding to, but it simply is not true.
Funny, I don't see as how I alluded anything, I thought I was being pretty straight, not disguising anything at all.
The love that we exhibit for each other when disseminating truth...or searching for it...is much like the love we demonstrate when we admonish our children or other loved ones. We don't tell our children to "stay out of the street" and then let them get hit by a car to keep from hurting their feelings.
I don't understand, who said anything about preventing from hurting the feelings of our loved ones?
When we tell them this...and it is CLEAR that it comes from a place of LOVE...then sometimes we have to spank them to make them understand how important it is to heed our words. Sure feelings get hurt, but there is no malicious intent. This is necessary to show that we CARE.
I'm sorry, but after a certain age, you can't go around spanking people. You can only help them the best way you can and then let them go about their own way. When I say you, I don't mean you per say. At some point, we have to trust the intelligence of each other. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. The horse will only drink if he is thirsty. Same thing can be applied to the analogy of planting seeds/knowledge. If you have truly planted seeds of knowledge, when the harvest time comes and you
haven't planted in
shallow grounds, your seeds will have sprouted into the result of the roots it came from, in this case knowledge. The analogy of shallow grounds can be applied to the knowledge that you give out of love,
falling upon deaths ears, if you do so with force, anger or manipulation. Remember now, this applies to adults, not children because you can not spank an adult, you have to use a different method other than spanking, with adults.
I agree, however, that we should not degrade, anger, or attack each other out of personal emotion or even hate for our former ignorant selves. But (speaking for myself) you will find that I (and others) demonstrate an amazing amount of self control in the midst of being attacked, degraded, and disrespected. It seems that the negativity comes more from those who are being challenged than those who are doing the challenging. When we pose good questions and/or FACTUAL information that is contrary to what some believe... WE are attacked! Is that self-hate or willfully blissful ignorance trying to protect itself?[/B]
I have seen it from both sides the challenged and the challenger getting angry and resorting to not so positive and productive debates.
Bottom line, when it is all over, it is not about what one debates about but more of what one has done. We can talk and debate all day but at the end of the day, it is about what one has
produced, in an effort to help his or her people.
People tend to follow those who have something to
show/offer as a token of their love. I am not necessarily talking about material things either because there is so much that we can do for each other that has nothing to do with material trinkets, such as our time, support, resources etc. Many of us think that we have nothing to give, so we just give our knowledge, no one cares about knowledge when they are not able to feed their children. Unless, you can feed give them some food and that is the problem. A lot of our people have so many other issues going on that (in their mind) they can not afford to sacrifice all that they have known/ are used to, including the religion they have been falsely taught. They need to first experience for themselves, that what they have believed in for son long is not all that they thought it was.
Personally speaking, I was raised catholic and went to catholic school, the whole 9 yards. Deep down I always knew something was wrong with that religion although my family were devout Catholics and was raising me to be one. Even though I knew something was wrong with it, still, at the time, it was all that I knew so I was faithful to it. Until one day, when I became of age, I decided to experiment, which I was not afraid to do. Some how, some way, I had enough sense to know, that if God was my father, why would he punish me for making sure that I know the truth about him? Once I convinced my self of that, I set out to find out what was going on behind the scenes of God, Jesus, Mary and the whole 9 yards. I am no longer affiliated with any kind of religion at all and have not been for over 16 years.
That experience was for me, it was my time to transcend and I did that at my own pace, my own transcending season.
So I say again, when people are hungry, they will eat and when they are thirsty, they will drink. You can give them food and drink, but if they are not hungry or thirsty, they will not eat or drink.
If you know that what you say is the truth, let the truth speak for it self. This analogy can be applied to the hungry child. I have had children in my daycare who are angry with me for disciplining them and when lunch time comes, as long as I am in the kitchen, they will not eat their food because I cooked it... LOL I know that they are hungry yet stubborn, so what I do is, I leave the kitchen for a while. Needless to say, when I come back, that specific child's plate is clean.
Astrologer4U
Debate is NOT DIVISIVE OR DRAMA in and of itself. It is a great way to exchange ideas, thoughts, perspectives, and facts in order to arrive at truth.
