Black Spirituality Religion : The Probelm is We Don't Accept the Truths of Our Religions

[Each1teach1]

Interesting debate in deed. We have been taught that what is outside is a reflection of what is already in existence inside. At some stage ru2religoius once said something to mean that some of the most detached and ignorant people he has came across are christians, that being said, in most cases it was not so at the beginning. When they first encountered religion their lives actually changed then as they went deeper into their new found religion, they lost themselves in the lies there in.

I think we need to get to the point where we look at the beginning and the end and determine why they differ. For instance, a new Christian, muslim or whatever would be walking around with a friendly sense and later they seem not to acknowledge the existence of others except white and or their fellow religious.

But I too think that there is some truth in religion, I mean it comes from us, therefore for it to work to the advantage of our enemies it must contain some truth or it would downright fail with us. If we say to our people they must let go of religion, we must provide them with something else that will add value to their lives and change them for the better, I think that we Africans are always seeking to connect with the higher being, and if you want me to leave that which had given me an impression that it connects me with the higher being, what will I become, where will I go.

You can tell me to know myself, to speak with my higher self but not every African is like you and me, most of our people are followers, they would want to be guided in the process, they would not understand when you say all laws are written in your heart, they would not understand, it would not make sense, why, because they have always been taught that that which is in a book (physical) is reality and anything else is....what’s the word....... fantasy, mythology along those lines.

So we need to get to a common ground, and I think the truth contained in all this religions is that COMMON GROUND; that can be our beginning point, we need to start somewhere. I think Truth is Truth no matter from which point you look at. The truth contained in all these religions will be common if not the same; the source of the religions is one in the first place, so the truths should be one as well.

Failures of our African religions towards our people: My father, who was supposed to be my Ausar, my Ra; became my Set and yet he was in African religion, he consulted with sangomas, he followed their instructions, he did the sacrifices, in fact, my grandmother (his mother) was a sangoma and she knows most herbs and instruction but still my father is my Set and I have never heard any of his sangomas, including my grandmother tell him, no check this, instruct him to be Ausar and guide is family. I use the names Ausar and Set to avoid going into details about what has actually been happening in my home with the hope that you will get my point.

The blood that has been introduced in our African religions is just too much to take. Let’s begin here, if I, you, we are creators and have created all of creation, why would we turn around and take the life of that which we have created and say we are taking that life to appease/thank and praise the gods (can somebody explain that to me, it does not make sense, and since it is not written in some religious book it should be able to be revisited, discussed, tested and changed should it fail the tests). All the people that I know, whom I have met and who are into African religion as it is today, are very miserable and some of the cruel people I know, taking a life for them as is easy as flicking out a candle, with no ramose what so ever, in fact, their behaviour is very close and related to what I have heard as the behaviour of the Satanists, scary staff for me. The only thing that I have seen that is capable of taking that which it did not create and destroy it, are the destroyers, the creators I have only seen them modifying and improving on their creations, not destroy it and claim to appease themselves by so doing.

I know no one who follows African religion as it is practices today who is decent and clean, check this, around my block there is a sort of an initiation school into the sangoma practices, my mother, being a Christian (let me add, my Auset became a Christian not more than five years ago and since then her perception of reality has changed from what it used to be as well; fortunately my ancestors are with me and so once in a while I still get the Auset in her and out of her), was tired of them always beating their drum during the night when she should be sleeping and resting for work the next day. So she took a decision to begin praying about it. Then there begun to be an interruption in their drumming routine, that I noticed as well, then the interruption became serious to a point where I could physically see tension between that family and my family, naturally my father at that point go close to them (sangomas) and then one day my mother told me that in the morning on her way to work she was hit by a lighting and it picked her up to about four feet in front of her and dropped her at the door of a bus she was due to board. After that day, the drumming stopped completely then after weeks it begun to happen only when my mother was not home. Believe me or not, I was there and I noticed the changes.

So, we want, we need our people to get back on the way, our way...which one is it? If we are not going to begin by isolating the truth in religions and establish our common ground based on that and begin there; where should we begin....?

We dont have to be given anything sister we already have it and always have: spirituality. We must realize there is a fine line between religion and spirituality. You dont need religion to have spirituality. If you notice Africans in their many cultures and languages NEVER called it religion. White people have religion but no spirituality and they have fostered this into their doctrines, practices and beliefs within Christianity. The same is true for Islam and Judaism. This is why there was for a very long time a huge difference between attending a black church and a white church. You seek whats already in you. You don't need to go anywhere. The Goddess is in you. People are too busy looking outside for faith and spirituality when its already inside, that is the greatest deception brought upon black people and the world for that matter, the need to look for salvation. You already have it when you look in the mirror and deep within yourself to evaluate YOU! To answer you our way is already within us, we know the way but have lost it. Therefore one needs to search the soul to find it again. Those truths that he talks about in the first post were with our ancestors from the very beginning and we didnt need religion to find them then and sure as hell dont need them now.

Also you cant possibly know all people who practice African religions, to make such a statement.

 

[AmenAmenetSun]

We dont have to be given anything sister we already have it and always have: spirituality. We must realize there is a fine line between religion and spirituality. You dont need religion to have spirituality. If you notice Africans in their many cultures and languages NEVER called it religion. White people have religion but no spirituality and they have fostered this into their doctrines, practices and beliefs within Christianity. The same is true for Islam and Judaism. This is why there was for a very long time a huge difference between attending a black church and a white church. You seek whats already in you. You don't need to go anywhere. The Goddess is in you. People are too busy looking outside for faith and spirituality when its already inside, that is the greatest deception brought upon black people and the world for that matter, the need to look for salvation. You already have it when you look in the mirror and deep within yourself to evaluate YOU! To answer you our way is already within us, we know the way but have lost it. Therefore one needs to search the soul to find it again. Those truths that he talks about in the first post were with our ancestors from the very beginning and we didnt need religion to find them then and sure as hell dont need them now.

Also you cant possibly know all people who practice African religions, to make such a statement.

Yes my dear sister, you are most correct, It is a fact that I do not know everyone who practices African religion (thus I said I know no one who.... and did not say....There is no one who....) but I know those who practice it around me, where are grew up and everywhere I have been around my immediate community and I have hear those who have been interviewed on radios broadcasted to my immediate community and they all promote the very African religion that I have briefly mentioned. The African religion that has not brought life to my community to date; that my dear sister, is the realty I have observed within my immediate community. All along this journey I was guided but when I compare then to now, I see that I had no structure in my journey, I heard things I did not understands, I followed voices and words I knew not where they lead me but I followed.

In reality my dear sister, what I mentioned is just a tip of the iceberg in relation to the above mentioned African religion practices, I left out the woman abuse, the children abuse, I left out the adult disrespect by young men who have just returned from the so called initiation schools, I left out how sangomas divide and separate families and friends, how they too make our people part with their hard earned money, the human mutilation..... And know this my sister; until I came across the Kwesi Ra Nehem Ptah Akhan and their website (odwirafo) and Blackroots science, I had thought that That was the African religion. And thereafter structure begun to slowly appear in my journey, I could see the specific direction I was heading and the eye that Set had closed begun to move. You see my dear sister; the above teachers increased my awakening of the truth in African culture and life. And in reference to the Laws of MAAT:
Tehuti Truisms:
My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind.

I understand that God manifests Its divine plan in the world of Man by incarnating in the soul of men and women who have elevated their consciousness to the higher parts of their spirits. I therefore honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets above all other kinds of men.

I am successful in handling the emotional and sensual challenges in my life because I realize that nothing has an emotional or sensual quality in itself. My emotional and sensual reactions are betrayal of my lack of spiritual cultivation in relation to these objects.

Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restored.

I understand that God has saved us by sharing Its power of wisdom within us. I will be successful in its awakening because I have no problem in giving up my head, and keeping my heart still.

(and please also note: I do have my own interpretation of the above including of the Laws of MAAT; I go where my Heart leads me e.g. I will not and do not honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets if they do not confirm what my Heart had already told me but I could not put into words before then (My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind)
As such I do not go to any Prophet as I am yet to meet one whom my Heart approves but Sages I have a lot and may my ancestors keep increasing them)
The African religion as stated by odwirafo website, Blackroots science and others along that line is not the African religion/culture/tradition/way of living etc as known by my friends, my relatives, my enemies and my immediate community. IT IS NOT. I have been greatly blessed by my ancestors, as much as I have forgotten all of myself, they(my ancestors) have always been able to notify me when something is wrong and lead me to that which can give me life. Thus I could not join christianity and islam as well as be part of the current arrangement of African religion practiced in my community as something inside me was telling me to wait and find out first, I have been finding out since then.

The first revelation that I had in my life I was around 16 and that was when I realised that what I lacked as a young black boy in order to make good and informed decisions about my future, my life, was my past, I realised that I lacked knowledge of what I then called my history, today I have been given a new word by my teachers: my Truestory. Then I sat down and read, from the bible, to African authors, I observed my environment and all I interacted with. I learned about the white humankind and about humans, about my community and their community (do you know that I have seen and heard more white: 8 out of 10, say thank you after being served by the very African they despise and only about 2 out of 10 of my very people will say thank you to their fellow African after being served by them) I do not know if it is that way in America as well but I have observed it so here in South Africa within my immediate community.

What I have also learned my dear sister, is that there are two types of African religion, the underground African religion and the surface African religion. The surface African religion is an incorrect religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people, it has all the signs of a perverted and corrupted practice. I know nothing about the underground African religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people but the hints that I have had, is that it contains the true practices of our people.

I think that the question that all sane Africans should be asking is this: why in the name of our true ancestors are our elders who are still in line with the true African religion are still hiding it from US at this critical time in our juncture....the underground African religion is the one I will not comment and make “statements” about but the African religion practices within my immediate community, the one that I interact with daily...my dear sister, that one I will comment about. In fact I will even venture on to say: If a young brother or sister comes to me for advice relating to religions, I will promptly advice them to seek alone, to venture out and face the pain that comes with realising that some of our very own people have also betrayed us; then I will direct them towards those who taught me with the hope that they will take it from there, if that proves too much for them, then to join a certain type of christianity that we here in SA refer to as bazalwani (these are Christian churches more in line with TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Miles Munroe etc churches) instead of the roman, certain churches that have linked their activities with African practices, islam and Yes the current African religion, I will advice them to read the bible themselves and understand it, and ask questions, and seek the answers thereof for I have learned that this here journey can also cause an African to decide to go 360 (it is very wonderful and beautiful to discover that which others thought they have hidden from you). I have been taught to seek that which gives LIFE and not death, to follow the stream that leads to the ocean, not the one that leads to the desert.

We continue: My dear sister and I hope you will understand this: just because a thing is not written in a book; that does not mean it is not written. I have been recently taught that that which is outside is a reflection of that which exists inside. Our minds in this case can be perceived as the book, so if a particular practice exists on our minds, in our hearts then it is written there and it cannot be read unless we know how to read it. That was the true purpose of initiation schools, to get us in touch with our inner self so that we may remember, to teach us how to read this book called the Mind and flap the pages of our ancestral DNA. To date my dear sister I have never met anyone or heard of anyone who has achieved getting in touch with their higher self and remembering on their own.

I understand that we need to be taught by those who came before us, those who have also been taught by those who came before them (Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restore). Walking is a natural thing, but I understand that babies do not learned it naturally, a baby might know that he/she can walk and that he will eventually walk but they observe and learn the walking process from those who have walked before them and we congratulate them when they achieve this small thing (always remembering that to them it’s a huge achievement, something that they need us to guide and encourage them through). It might be a small thing to us to get “in touch” with our inner self...but is it a small thing to my brother, to my sister? Can they do it without a teacher, without a guide, can it be done without a teacher, without a guide. In the mean time what is wrong with us showing them the truth in all the religions so that they can begin there....I tell you my sister, my mother knows that there is truth still in the current African religion, she has told it to me but not to the extent that I came across it on my own via the above mentioned sources, but she stays away from the current African religion for no one is telling about that truth.....rather they do the same thing as what christianity, islam etc does, they entice us with a little bit of truth, and then trap us with death....

From the above you should be able to realise that I follow no religion, no tradition ( I understand that the two change) but I only have respect for my African Culture and my Culture is internal before it is external (I perceive Culture to be unchangeable i.e,. I perceive eating as Culture and food as tradition. Once in a while you must eat, that does not change, but the food you eat can, do and will change)

But then again I am grateful to the ancestors that they lead me to this site Destee.com, to you and to some great teachers here. Some might think that our discussions and debates here are a waste of time and energy, but to me, they give me an opportunity to learn, to listen and to increase in reasoning, comprehension and knowledge.

 

[Ankhur]

Interesting debate in deed. We have been taught that what is outside is a reflection of what is already in existence inside. At some stage ru2religoius once said something to mean that some of the most detached and ignorant people he has came across are christians, that being said, in most cases it was not so at the beginning. When they first encountered religion their lives actually changed then as they went deeper into their new found religion, they lost themselves in the lies there in.

I think we need to get to the point where we look at the beginning and the end and determine why they differ. For instance, a new Christian, muslim or whatever would be walking around with a friendly sense and later they seem not to acknowledge the existence of others except white and or their fellow religious.

But I too think that there is some truth in religion, I mean it comes from us, therefore for it to work to the advantage of our enemies it must contain some truth or it would downright fail with us. If we say to our people they must let go of religion, we must provide them with something else that will add value to their lives and change them for the better, I think that we Africans are always seeking to connect with the higher being, and if you want me to leave that which had given me an impression that it connects me with the higher being, what will I become, where will I go.

You can tell me to know myself, to speak with my higher self but not every African is like you and me, most of our people are followers, they would want to be guided in the process, they would not understand when you say all laws are written in your heart, they would not understand, it would not make sense, why, because they have always been taught that that which is in a book (physical) is reality and anything else is....what’s the word....... fantasy, mythology along those lines.

So we need to get to a common ground, and I think the truth contained in all this religions is that COMMON GROUND; that can be our beginning point, we need to start somewhere. I think Truth is Truth no matter from which point you look at. The truth contained in all these religions will be common if not the same; the source of the religions is one in the first place, so the truths should be one as well.

Failures of our African religions towards our people: My father, who was supposed to be my Ausar, my Ra; became my Set and yet he was in African religion, he consulted with sangomas, he followed their instructions, he did the sacrifices, in fact, my grandmother (his mother) was a sangoma and she knows most herbs and instruction but still my father is my Set and I have never heard any of his sangomas, including my grandmother tell him, no check this, instruct him to be Ausar and guide is family. I use the names Ausar and Set to avoid going into details about what has actually been happening in my home with the hope that you will get my point.

The blood that has been introduced in our African religions is just too much to take. Let’s begin here, if I, you, we are creators and have created all of creation, why would we turn around and take the life of that which we have created and say we are taking that life to appease/thank and praise the gods (can somebody explain that to me, it does not make sense, and since it is not written in some religious book it should be able to be revisited, discussed, tested and changed should it fail the tests). All the people that I know, whom I have met and who are into African religion as it is today, are very miserable and some of the cruel people I know, taking a life for them as is easy as flicking out a candle, with no ramose what so ever, in fact, their behaviour is very close and related to what I have heard as the behaviour of the Satanists, scary staff for me. The only thing that I have seen that is capable of taking that which it did not create and destroy it, are the destroyers, the creators I have only seen them modifying and improving on their creations, not destroy it and claim to appease themselves by so doing.

I know no one who follows African religion as it is practices today who is decent and clean, check this, around my block there is a sort of an initiation school into the sangoma practices, my mother, being a Christian (let me add, my Auset became a Christian not more than five years ago and since then her perception of reality has changed from what it used to be as well; fortunately my ancestors are with me and so once in a while I still get the Auset in her and out of her), was tired of them always beating their drum during the night when she should be sleeping and resting for work the next day. So she took a decision to begin praying about it. Then there begun to be an interruption in their drumming routine, that I noticed as well, then the interruption became serious to a point where I could physically see tension between that family and my family, naturally my father at that point go close to them (sangomas) and then one day my mother told me that in the morning on her way to work she was hit by a lighting and it picked her up to about four feet in front of her and dropped her at the door of a bus she was due to board. After that day, the drumming stopped completely then after weeks it begun to happen only when my mother was not home. Believe me or not, I was there and I noticed the changes.

So, we want, we need our people to get back on the way, our way...which one is it? If we are not going to begin by isolating the truth in religions and establish our common ground based on that and begin there; where should we begin....?

At some stage ru2religoius once said something to mean that some of the most detached and ignorant people he has came across are christians

My brother in law(RIP) who was a devout Aetheist, and whose history involved the student demonstrations at Columbia in the early 70s, put it another way;
he said , "Some of these Christians are some of the most un Christina people you could ever meet" in other words they had no love for others or the community but only themselves and their property

As far as Africans in America are concerned, the Christian of the Hip Hop era is not the christian of the 60s, who held meetings of the RNA in church basements, and free breakfast programs for the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, and gave Mulana Ron Karenga a podium to speak from.
Christians back then did not see a division of these groups but a unity no matter what COINTELPRO tried to do.

The Christians of today seem to be churchianists, and the Muslims of today shrug the community

Does that mean Christianity is bad or Islam is bad because they use it the wrong way?

A fire can cook or it can burn down a house and a person once burnt is twice shy!

What this generation has lost is what you have mentioned the core altruisms within the heart and since in today's hip hop era houses of worship are not teaching the core truths of these religions but only the dogma and the outerglaze,

most here are aware that I suggest all relgions be sacrificed for the benefit of the race
for a period of 100 years and all youth be instructed in a NOGG not nation of gods and earths but a nation of gods and godesses,
that focus on family upliftment, community upliftment and the national and global upliftment of the race.

Now as to you personally,
you notice I did not mention Kemetians becuase it has been my personal experience from speaking to Shekem Ur Shekem; Ra Un Nefer Amen, and Brother Smajj and Queen Afua, and those good sincere people of both temples,
that they have no con,. guile, hype, or airs, and have that good old fashioned, back in the days;
love for the Black community and carry that vibe every where they go

 

[Each1teach1]

Yes my dear sister, you are most correct, It is a fact that I do not know everyone who practices African religion (thus I said I know no one who.... and did not say....There is no one who....) but I know those who practice it around me, where are grew up and everywhere I have been around my immediate community and I have hear those who have been interviewed on radios broadcasted to my immediate community and they all promote the very African religion that I have briefly mentioned. The African religion that has not brought life to my community to date; that my dear sister, is the realty I have observed within my immediate community. All along this journey I was guided but when I compare then to now, I see that I had no structure in my journey, I heard things I did not understands, I followed voices and words I knew not where they lead me but I followed.

In reality my dear sister, what I mentioned is just a tip of the iceberg in relation to the above mentioned African religion practices, I left out the woman abuse, the children abuse, I left out the adult disrespect by young men who have just returned from the so called initiation schools, I left out how sangomas divide and separate families and friends, how they too make our people part with their hard earned money, the human mutilation..... And know this my sister; until I came across the Kwesi Ra Nehem Ptah Akhan and their website (odwirafo) and Blackroots science, I had thought that That was the African religion. And thereafter structure begun to slowly appear in my journey, I could see the specific direction I was heading and the eye that Set had closed begun to move. You see my dear sister; the above teachers increased my awakening of the truth in African culture and life. And in reference to the Laws of MAAT:
Tehuti Truisms:
My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind.

I understand that God manifests Its divine plan in the world of Man by incarnating in the soul of men and women who have elevated their consciousness to the higher parts of their spirits. I therefore honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets above all other kinds of men.

I am successful in handling the emotional and sensual challenges in my life because I realize that nothing has an emotional or sensual quality in itself. My emotional and sensual reactions are betrayal of my lack of spiritual cultivation in relation to these objects.

Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restored.

I understand that God has saved us by sharing Its power of wisdom within us. I will be successful in its awakening because I have no problem in giving up my head, and keeping my heart still.

(and please also note: I do have my own interpretation of the above including of the Laws of MAAT; I go where my Heart leads me e.g. I will not and do not honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets if they do not confirm what my Heart had already told me but I could not put into words before then (My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind)
As such I do not go to any Prophet as I am yet to meet one whom my Heart approves but Sages I have a lot and may my ancestors keep increasing them)
The African religion as stated by odwirafo website, Blackroots science and others along that line is not the African religion/culture/tradition/way of living etc as known by my friends, my relatives, my enemies and my immediate community. IT IS NOT. I have been greatly blessed by my ancestors, as much as I have forgotten all of myself, they(my ancestors) have always been able to notify me when something is wrong and lead me to that which can give me life. Thus I could not join christianity and islam as well as be part of the current arrangement of African religion practiced in my community as something inside me was telling me to wait and find out first, I have been finding out since then.

The first revelation that I had in my life I was around 16 and that was when I realised that what I lacked as a young black boy in order to make good and informed decisions about my future, my life, was my past, I realised that I lacked knowledge of what I then called my history, today I have been given a new word by my teachers: my Truestory. Then I sat down and read, from the bible, to African authors, I observed my environment and all I interacted with. I learned about the white humankind and about humans, about my community and their community (do you know that I have seen and heard more white: 8 out of 10, say thank you after being served by the very African they despise and only about 2 out of 10 of my very people will say thank you to their fellow African after being served by them) I do not know if it is that way in America as well but I have observed it so here in South Africa within my immediate community.

What I have also learned my dear sister, is that there are two types of African religion, the underground African religion and the surface African religion. The surface African religion is an incorrect religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people, it has all the signs of a perverted and corrupted practice. I know nothing about the underground African religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people but the hints that I have had, is that it contains the true practices of our people.

I think that the question that all sane Africans should be asking is this: why in the name of our true ancestors are our elders who are still in line with the true African religion are still hiding it from US at this critical time in our juncture....the underground African religion is the one I will not comment and make “statements” about but the African religion practices within my immediate community, the one that I interact with daily...my dear sister, that one I will comment about. In fact I will even venture on to say: If a young brother or sister comes to me for advice relating to religions, I will promptly advice them to seek alone, to venture out and face the pain that comes with realising that some of our very own people have also betrayed us; then I will direct them towards those who taught me with the hope that they will take it from there, if that proves too much for them, then to join a certain type of christianity that we here in SA refer to as bazalwani (these are Christian churches more in line with TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Miles Munroe etc churches) instead of the roman, certain churches that have linked their activities with African practices, islam and Yes the current African religion, I will advice them to read the bible themselves and understand it, and ask questions, and seek the answers thereof for I have learned that this here journey can also cause an African to decide to go 360 (it is very wonderful and beautiful to discover that which others thought they have hidden from you). I have been taught to seek that which gives LIFE and not death, to follow the stream that leads to the ocean, not the one that leads to the desert.

We continue: My dear sister and I hope you will understand this: just because a thing is not written in a book; that does not mean it is not written. I have been recently taught that that which is outside is a reflection of that which exists inside. Our minds in this case can be perceived as the book, so if a particular practice exists on our minds, in our hearts then it is written there and it cannot be read unless we know how to read it. That was the true purpose of initiation schools, to get us in touch with our inner self so that we may remember, to teach us how to read this book called the Mind and flap the pages of our ancestral DNA. To date my dear sister I have never met anyone or heard of anyone who has achieved getting in touch with their higher self and remembering on their own.

I understand that we need to be taught by those who came before us, those who have also been taught by those who came before them (Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restore). Walking is a natural thing, but I understand that babies do not learned it naturally, a baby might know that he/she can walk and that he will eventually walk but they observe and learn the walking process from those who have walked before them and we congratulate them when they achieve this small thing (always remembering that to them it’s a huge achievement, something that they need us to guide and encourage them through). It might be a small thing to us to get “in touch” with our inner self...but is it a small thing to my brother, to my sister? Can they do it without a teacher, without a guide, can it be done without a teacher, without a guide. In the mean time what is wrong with us showing them the truth in all the religions so that they can begin there....I tell you my sister, my mother knows that there is truth still in the current African religion, she has told it to me but not to the extent that I came across it on my own via the above mentioned sources, but she stays away from the current African religion for no one is telling about that truth.....rather they do the same thing as what christianity, islam etc does, they entice us with a little bit of truth, and then trap us with death....

From the above you should be able to realise that I follow no religion, no tradition ( I understand that the two change) but I only have respect for my African Culture and my Culture is internal before it is external (I perceive Culture to be unchangeable i.e,. I perceive eating as Culture and food as tradition. Once in a while you must eat, that does not change, but the food you eat can, do and will change)

But then again I am grateful to the ancestors that they lead me to this site Destee.com, to you and to some great teachers here. Some might think that our discussions and debates here are a waste of time and energy, but to me, they give me an opportunity to learn, to listen and to increase in reasoning, comprehension and knowledge.

Thank you for taking the time to respond and explain all of this has been very well said my brother. Very well.

 

[Omowale Jabali]

Yes my dear sister, you are most correct, It is a fact that I do not know everyone who practices African religion (thus I said I know no one who.... and did not say....There is no one who....) but I know those who practice it around me, where are grew up and everywhere I have been around my immediate community and I have hear those who have been interviewed on radios broadcasted to my immediate community and they all promote the very African religion that I have briefly mentioned. The African religion that has not brought life to my community to date; that my dear sister, is the realty I have observed within my immediate community. All along this journey I was guided but when I compare then to now, I see that I had no structure in my journey, I heard things I did not understands, I followed voices and words I knew not where they lead me but I followed.

In reality my dear sister, what I mentioned is just a tip of the iceberg in relation to the above mentioned African religion practices, I left out the woman abuse, the children abuse, I left out the adult disrespect by young men who have just returned from the so called initiation schools, I left out how sangomas divide and separate families and friends, how they too make our people part with their hard earned money, the human mutilation..... And know this my sister; until I came across the Kwesi Ra Nehem Ptah Akhan and their website (odwirafo) and Blackroots science, I had thought that That was the African religion. And thereafter structure begun to slowly appear in my journey, I could see the specific direction I was heading and the eye that Set had closed begun to move. You see my dear sister; the above teachers increased my awakening of the truth in African culture and life. And in reference to the Laws of MAAT:
Tehuti Truisms:
My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind.

I understand that God manifests Its divine plan in the world of Man by incarnating in the soul of men and women who have elevated their consciousness to the higher parts of their spirits. I therefore honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets above all other kinds of men.

I am successful in handling the emotional and sensual challenges in my life because I realize that nothing has an emotional or sensual quality in itself. My emotional and sensual reactions are betrayal of my lack of spiritual cultivation in relation to these objects.

Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restored.

I understand that God has saved us by sharing Its power of wisdom within us. I will be successful in its awakening because I have no problem in giving up my head, and keeping my heart still.

(and please also note: I do have my own interpretation of the above including of the Laws of MAAT; I go where my Heart leads me e.g. I will not and do not honor and follow the guidance of Sages and Prophets if they do not confirm what my Heart had already told me but I could not put into words before then (My ability to know is unlimited. I understand that what seems as my not knowing is merely the momentary inability of my knowledge to take verbal form in my mind)
As such I do not go to any Prophet as I am yet to meet one whom my Heart approves but Sages I have a lot and may my ancestors keep increasing them)
The African religion as stated by odwirafo website, Blackroots science and others along that line is not the African religion/culture/tradition/way of living etc as known by my friends, my relatives, my enemies and my immediate community. IT IS NOT. I have been greatly blessed by my ancestors, as much as I have forgotten all of myself, they(my ancestors) have always been able to notify me when something is wrong and lead me to that which can give me life. Thus I could not join christianity and islam as well as be part of the current arrangement of African religion practiced in my community as something inside me was telling me to wait and find out first, I have been finding out since then.

The first revelation that I had in my life I was around 16 and that was when I realised that what I lacked as a young black boy in order to make good and informed decisions about my future, my life, was my past, I realised that I lacked knowledge of what I then called my history, today I have been given a new word by my teachers: my Truestory. Then I sat down and read, from the bible, to African authors, I observed my environment and all I interacted with. I learned about the white humankind and about humans, about my community and their community (do you know that I have seen and heard more white: 8 out of 10, say thank you after being served by the very African they despise and only about 2 out of 10 of my very people will say thank you to their fellow African after being served by them) I do not know if it is that way in America as well but I have observed it so here in South Africa within my immediate community.

What I have also learned my dear sister, is that there are two types of African religion, the underground African religion and the surface African religion. The surface African religion is an incorrect religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people, it has all the signs of a perverted and corrupted practice. I know nothing about the underground African religion/culture/tradition/life style of our people but the hints that I have had, is that it contains the true practices of our people.

I think that the question that all sane Africans should be asking is this: why in the name of our true ancestors are our elders who are still in line with the true African religion are still hiding it from US at this critical time in our juncture....the underground African religion is the one I will not comment and make “statements” about but the African religion practices within my immediate community, the one that I interact with daily...my dear sister, that one I will comment about. In fact I will even venture on to say: If a young brother or sister comes to me for advice relating to religions, I will promptly advice them to seek alone, to venture out and face the pain that comes with realising that some of our very own people have also betrayed us; then I will direct them towards those who taught me with the hope that they will take it from there, if that proves too much for them, then to join a certain type of christianity that we here in SA refer to as bazalwani (these are Christian churches more in line with TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Miles Munroe etc churches) instead of the roman, certain churches that have linked their activities with African practices, islam and Yes the current African religion, I will advice them to read the bible themselves and understand it, and ask questions, and seek the answers thereof for I have learned that this here journey can also cause an African to decide to go 360 (it is very wonderful and beautiful to discover that which others thought they have hidden from you). I have been taught to seek that which gives LIFE and not death, to follow the stream that leads to the ocean, not the one that leads to the desert.

We continue: My dear sister and I hope you will understand this: just because a thing is not written in a book; that does not mean it is not written. I have been recently taught that that which is outside is a reflection of that which exists inside. Our minds in this case can be perceived as the book, so if a particular practice exists on our minds, in our hearts then it is written there and it cannot be read unless we know how to read it. That was the true purpose of initiation schools, to get us in touch with our inner self so that we may remember, to teach us how to read this book called the Mind and flap the pages of our ancestral DNA. To date my dear sister I have never met anyone or heard of anyone who has achieved getting in touch with their higher self and remembering on their own.

I understand that we need to be taught by those who came before us, those who have also been taught by those who came before them (Until I can still my thoughts to let my wisdom manifest itself at will, I go to the oracles that the eye that was harmed by Set can be restore). Walking is a natural thing, but I understand that babies do not learned it naturally, a baby might know that he/she can walk and that he will eventually walk but they observe and learn the walking process from those who have walked before them and we congratulate them when they achieve this small thing (always remembering that to them it’s a huge achievement, something that they need us to guide and encourage them through). It might be a small thing to us to get “in touch” with our inner self...but is it a small thing to my brother, to my sister? Can they do it without a teacher, without a guide, can it be done without a teacher, without a guide. In the mean time what is wrong with us showing them the truth in all the religions so that they can begin there....I tell you my sister, my mother knows that there is truth still in the current African religion, she has told it to me but not to the extent that I came across it on my own via the above mentioned sources, but she stays away from the current African religion for no one is telling about that truth.....rather they do the same thing as what christianity, islam etc does, they entice us with a little bit of truth, and then trap us with death....

From the above you should be able to realise that I follow no religion, no tradition ( I understand that the two change) but I only have respect for my African Culture and my Culture is internal before it is external (I perceive Culture to be unchangeable i.e,. I perceive eating as Culture and food as tradition. Once in a while you must eat, that does not change, but the food you eat can, do and will change)

But then again I am grateful to the ancestors that they lead me to this site Destee.com, to you and to some great teachers here. Some might think that our discussions and debates here are a waste of time and energy, but to me, they give me an opportunity to learn, to listen and to increase in reasoning, comprehension and knowledge.

Thanks for sharing. I have reached some similar conclusions after exchange with brothers africanroots and ra nehem. This leads me to ask if you have heard from either recently? Some of their sites I cannot access from mobile and have downloaded and bookmarked as much as I can. I was also wondering if you are familiar with the site afrostyly.