Black People Politics : Obama commutes sentences for 46; presses for justice changes

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  1. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Freedom,


    Making his total 89, more since L B Johnson.



    Obama commutes sentences for 46; presses for justice changes


    WASHINGTON (AP) — Calling America "a nation of second chances," President Barack Obama cut the prison sentences of 46 non-violent drug offenders on Monday in what the White House hopes will be just one prong of a broader push to make the criminal justice system fairer while saving the government money ...


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    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-commutes-sentences-46-convicts-165111278.html


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    This is a good thing. Presidents often do this toward the last year or so of their second term. It's one of our checks and balances principles. Many of the people receiving pardons have been in prison for at least 10 years. Their prison records are not wiped out.
     
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    Outside of Mr. Obama, can you name other presidents that acted in their first term?


    "... During Mr. Obama’s first term, he exercised his clemency powers three times, issuing a total of 22 pardons and one commutation. He also denied 1,019 applications for a pardon and 3,793 applications for commutation ..."

    Obama Pardons 17 Felons, First in His Second Term
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/us/politics/obama-pardons-17-felons-first-in-his-second-term.html

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    Jimmy Carter pardoned all men who had avoided the draft during the Vietnam War. The only ones who did not receive the pardons were deserters.This pardon was issued the day after Carter's inauguration. (Destee, we have got to get a spell checker on this site.)

    It appears first term presidential pardons do occur quite frequently. For example:

    But none of these recent presidents comes close to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the use of pardon power. He granted about 600 pardons and commutations by the end of his first term, and about 2,800 over the course of his historic 12 years in office (1933-1945) before the two-term limit went into effect.
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...a-stingy-on-pardons-says-clemency-expert?lite


    One of the most famous pardons of all was President Gerald Ford's pardon of former President Richard Nixon about one month after after Ford took the oath of office.

    Here's a list of presidents and how many pardons they issued. It doesn't state how many pardons they granted in their first term. However, 10 presidents only served one term so they count. Also, if you look at those presidents who issued over a thousand pardons one can assume they granted some during their first term.
    http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/presidential-pardons-1789-present.html
     
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    Good deal ... glad to see you've reversed from your earlier shallow generalizations:


    This is a good thing. Presidents often do this toward the last year or so of their second term. It's one of our checks and balances principles. Many of the people receiving pardons have been in prison for at least 10 years. Their prison records are not wiped out.

    KMeister, Yesterday at 7:24 PM


    Good job, KMeister.

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    Thanks. Historically, two term presidents appear issue more pardons after their first terms. It's interesting that President Obama granted very few pardons in his first four years; just 22. One can only speculate why.
     
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    Please don't speculate, its causes reversal of thought.

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    I don't know what the above means. But on this forum we're free to speculate, especially if we state that we're speculating. LOL!
     
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    Come on man! We just got out of a conversation were you reversed yourself after speculating ... don't play crazy KMeister, its not a good look for such an intelligent person.

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    ??? LOL! One member making a personal remark about another. Yawn...not very interesting. See ya! (KMeister waves...)
     
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