Black People Politics : Voting: The Treadmill To No Where

Fine1952 said:

THE DISTRACTION OF VOTING

If you don't have a seat at the table then you are on the menu. But who says we can't have our own table. Why can't we have our own nation? With Our Own Schools? With Our Own Businesses-Commerce-Trade? With our own military? -Dane Calloway

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But you CAN!

It's called Liberia.

So if the argument is "why cant we have our own country?" then stop... GO TO LIBERIA. We literally have our own country populated by former slaves. And it is intentionally patterned after America so you can move there and have that familiarity without having to learn a new language.

And if you already know about Liberia, how it started, who made it happen, then praytell on what planet would you expect the US to do it again just because you didn't like the first outcome??

Want your own military? Here ya go:

We didn't just have the opportunity to build another country. We did it. It's still there. It hasn't spontaneously combusted. So if that's what you want it's already there! But it's like some people (not saying you) want American wealth.... American jobs... American housing... American sports... etc. and they are COMFORTABLE and don't want to leave. NO ONE is going to voluntarily give up an existing thriving piece of their country to go off and be a whole other country. Now if are already a state and you want to quit the Union... maybe eventually that could be possible. But NO COUNTRY is going to give you part of itself just because you want their land to govern yourself.

Those are unrealistic pipe dreams. And while people have dreamt those dreams for over 50 years it serves only as a DISTRACTION from building a better America that is strengthened by our diversity; an America that educates rather than fearmongers. But no, everyone wants to think it's so easy. "If we would just..." but the same community that dreams this and tells you not to vote is the same community that can't even reproduce a successful black wall street district. So how exactly is voting a distraction from something that isn't even being worked on? And no one even trusts each other enough to be the ones to lead any new effort like that because we'd rather attack each other and call each other kneegrows, coons, and sellouts instead.

That's why we can't have power.

jamesfrmphilly said:

i won so many of those i had to retire...


that train left the station in 2016 and it ain't coming back.

MAGA is the enemy. they will not be soothed by sweet talk. they must be defeated.

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haha! So you still got the heavyweight belt. Respect.

The problem with maga is that it's a cult. Cults have self-defense mechanisms. It's not impossible. I have a video of a woman who was deprogrammed. The problem is that cults play on your beliefs and biases. They offer you a version of the world and the future they know you want. And they tell you that they alone can give it to you.

Sweet talk does soothe them. It just isn't enough to convince them. But softer words always allows people to listen. But if you start screaming they start screaming and we simply go back and forth matching each other's energy. People scream because they don't feel heard. So the key is listening to their grievances and making them think you're on their side. You don't have to wear a red cap; just show interest in their issues and reasons for why they feel the way they do. Like what is it, maga people, that you're actually voting for? What is it that you want? That's where to begin.

That's how politics used to be done back in Joe Biden's days when he was a representative and that's why he's actually surprisingly done a good job as president. Because he still reaches across the aisle. And yeah, they used to do backroom deals. But they got stuff done. You give me something. I give you something. MAGA has made us forget how to negotiate because we're already assuming it is impossible (because they seem so crazy). But their craziness is part of the illusion meant to keep us fighting each other.

IPXninja said:

that can't even reproduce a successful black wall street district.

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the white people burned it down. in order for us to have anything we have to be able to defend it.

IPXninja said:

The problem with maga is that it's a cult.

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and it must be defeated by force....crushed at the ballot box

IPXninja said:

But you CAN!

It's called Liberia.

So if the argument is "why cant we have our own country?" then stop... GO TO LIBERIA. We literally have our own country populated by former slaves. And it is intentionally patterned after America so you can move there and have that familiarity without having to learn a new language.

And if you already know about Liberia, how it started, who made it happen, then praytell on what planet would you expect the US to do it again just because you didn't like the first outcome??

Want your own military? Here ya go:

Armed Forces of Liberia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We didn't just have the opportunity to build another country. We did it. It's still there. It hasn't spontaneously combusted. So if that's what you want it's already there! But it's like some people (not saying you) want American wealth.... American jobs... American housing... American sports... etc. and they are COMFORTABLE and don't want to leave. NO ONE is going to voluntarily give up an existing thriving piece of their country to go off and be a whole other country. Now if are already a state and you want to quit the Union... maybe eventually that could be possible. But NO COUNTRY is going to give you part of itself just because you want their land to govern yourself.

Those are unrealistic pipe dreams. And while people have dreamt those dreams for over 50 years it serves only as a DISTRACTION from building a better America that is strengthened by our diversity; an America that educates rather than fearmongers. But no, everyone wants to think it's so easy. "If we would just..." but the same community that dreams this and tells you not to vote is the same community that can't even reproduce a successful black wall street district. So how exactly is voting a distraction from something that isn't even being worked on? And no one even trusts each other enough to be the ones to lead any new effort like that because we'd rather attack each other and call each other kneegrows, coons, and sellouts instead.

That's why we can't have power.

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Liberia is a farce to the so-called pan American movement.

If you did your research you would know that 98% of us are indigeneous to America. Therefore, we do not need to run to Africa or anywhere else.