Black People : What do we attract?

[cherryblossom]

i felt it necessary to say that the bible has some universal knowledge in it because the people who wrote it know these hidden (for now i shall say) mysteries of the spirit world and its dimensions and as well as numerous fabrications and propaganda to mislead and spiritually tie people to false deities in which they are worshiping something other than what they be-lie-ve. that is why they have been known to have secret books in the churches etc. this comment is to those people who do not identify themselves as christian and are still figuring out where they fit in the universe and may not understand some things as we all don't you should understand this.

this is MY perspective i do not care to debate about scriptures in this thread to people that may take offense even though i made known my audience in which it was directed to. I don't want anything i said to be used in conjunction with religious verses in attempt to prove or support (cherry) your religious opinions. I tolerate other peoples religious opinions to some degree but i did not wish for this thread to turn into a place of preaching and bible reference. I am not saying this in a disrespectful way but i do not think Kieta was being an advocate for the bible in any way and nor was I, or were you kieta lol? That kind of thing really bothers some people my self included when people inject oodles of verses in a thread that was not meant to be turned into a place for religious debate and endless scriptures. Im just being cordially honest here. The bible does have some universal knowledge in it as i said earlier but more fabrications than anything and this is just the honest truth that has been confirmed by many of our credible scholars. peace and love.

I didn't introduce the BIBLE to this thread.....Keita did.

However, yes, as a CHRISTIAN, I EXPOUNDED on HOW and WHAT the BIBLE says about what/how we "ATTRACT" in our lives.--So, of course I'm gonna "ADVOCATE' the Bible....I'M A CHRISTIAN..... DUH!

Moreover, whether or not I (a CHRISTIAN) was intended as a part of YOUR "AUDIENCE," (lol) this is NOT some kind of "CLOSED" discussion.----Being a Christian, my faith is a part of WHO I AM.---So, yes, my discussion is going to be shaped by and steeped in my faith.

My post here was not intended to "CONVERT" or "CONVINCE" anybody.... I was responding to YOUR TOPIC in RELATION TO my faith. So, there is no "RELIGIOUS DEBATE" involved.

Now, I really don't care that you don't like it (or anyone else) that I included Bible verses in my response....I rendered MY PERSPECTIVE on your topic...Just because I'm not a part of the "AUDIENCE" it was "DIRECTED TO," , (lol) that doesn't equate to me not being able to respond with whatever MY PERSPECTIVE is.

lol...and FOUR Bible verses is not "OODLES OF VERSES."

But, as for it "BOTHERING" you.......BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT.

 

[cherryblossom]

p.2 “The Secret”- Making the Universe Obey YOU
The new age belief is that we need to discover the innate power that we all have (within), it can be called spiritual intuition, the higher self, the divine mind, divinity, etc. and psycho spiritual techniques and methods, along with spirit guides can be useful in connecting to this power. There is a multiplicity of descriptions, and their terminology depends on which teaching or group they are associated with....

...Since the Universe is an “it,” it cannot say no to you.

Those who use this idea, abandon there being a personal God who created the universe, a God who made the laws that man must obey. Instead the law of the universe obey us. The universe was not created by man it was here before man, yet we create what we want to exist in it with our minds. This means the atoms are obeying our minds. That should stretch the credulity of any logical thinker...

...The god they are presenting to people is self....

.....The Universe, energy, guided imagery- same words, same concepts we read in the Secret.

The universe becomes a substitute for God in New Age metaphysics. It is a created thing that is unable to think on its own but is at the whims and fantasies of the power of man’s thoughts. The universe is an “it,” that has intelligence which they believe they tap into for whatever they need in life. How intelligent is this all powerful force that will do whatever we think, both gone is convinced of its power and believe it works for everyone as the advertisers of the Secret claim, the next step is to abandon all reason and begin a consistent practice. From this the danger can escalate, eventually they find they were not manipulating the universe but they themselves were manipulated. These practices change their worldview to open them up to a spiritual realm that man is not equipped to enter.

http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac37.htm

 

[MS234]

But, as for it "BOTHERING" you.......BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT.

I thought "christians" followed "christ" to be "christlike". I don't remember hearing "christ talk like this".

 

[MS234]

p.2 “The Secret”- Making the Universe Obey YOU
The new age belief is that we need to discover the innate power that we all have (within), it can be called spiritual intuition,

new age "belief" for who? You don't NEED to discover what's already there. You need to listen....................to your inner self. No scripture needed.......................so this is not for you.

Call it spiritual intuition? lol It's intuition PERIOD. All people possess it. Yes it is another level of intelligence.
When one learns to listen to it, spiderman's spidey sense can't touch this.


The universe is like pound cake. Religion is not icing. Religion is like water. Now a once spongy cake is now soggy.

 

[cherryblossom]

I thought "christians" followed "christ" to be "christlike". I don't remember hearing "christ talk like this".

Tough Love Jesus

by David J. Stewart | October 17, 2005

.....One of the things that I hear quite a bit in the e-mails people send to me is that I'm not loving like Jesus. There's not a day that goes by where someone doesn't e-mail me to tell me that I'm filled with hatred, but Jesus was loving and understanding towards sinners. They accuse me of failing to be like Jesus. I would like to address such allegations against myself and others like me who stand uncompromisingly against the evils and wickednesses of our time. I would like to present to you some Biblical FACTS about the Lord Jesus Christ, facts that you've probably never heard before (or have heard, but never wanted to accept). The FACT is that Jesus was NOT always the loving pacifist that so many heathens and immature believers would like to make Him out to be.


Jesus Did Get Angry, Sometimes Even Violent!

The FACT is that Jesus did get angry sometimes...real angry...so angry that He actually fabricated a whip of cords, went into the temple, and started beating people. Jesus started flipping their tables over, hurling everything onto the temple floor. People were fleeing the temple for fear. They probably said ,"This guy has gone crazy...we're out of here!" Jesus let their doves go free (costing them a financial loss). He threw their money all over the floor...

"And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables" -John 2:15​

Can you imagine? Is this our Precious Saviour acting like a mad man? Yes, it most certain is. Jesus was very angry to put it mildly. What do you think would happen to someone who did today exactly what Jesus did back then in the temple that day? The person would immediately be arrested and charged with created a public disturbance, assault with a deadly weapon, trespassing, vandalism of public (private) property, etc. The judge would force the person into mandatory psychiatric counseling. If an undercover police officer were present at the time of the violent incident, the person would probably have been killed on the spot. So don't tell me about how loving Jesus was all the time. Yes, Jesus was more loving than any person who ever lived, but He also hated sin like no other...

"Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." -Hebrews 1:9​

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Jesus was a perfectly balanced individual, He loved righteousness and equally hated sin. Ninety-five percent of all Christians love righteousness far more than they hate sin. In fact, MOST professed Christians don't hate sin at all; rather, they live in it. Jesus did not go to gay parades and pass out pizza. Jesus never would endorse Harry Potter like Christianity Today magazine does. Jesus hated sin and preached against it.


Jesus Wasn't Hesitant to Offend People with the Truth!

1. Jesus reminds a woman about her adulterous affairs

Many people have accused me of being unloving, failing to be like Jesus. Why? Simply because of my direct approach. Was Jesus direct? In John chapter four we read about the Samaritan woman whom Jesus met at the well. In John 4:18, Jesus tells her that she is an adulterer (Matthew 5:32). Wow! Can you imagine meeting someone for the first time and they bring up your adulterous relationships?
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1. Jesus hurts someone's feelings

Did you ever read that passage of Scripture where Jesus made someone sorrowful...

"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions." -Matthew 19:21-22

The truth needed to be spoken! Jesus didn't kowtow and beat-around-the-bush. No, Jesus said what needed to be said.
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1. Jesus calls a group of religious people "evil" snakes

It was not uncommon for Jesus to speak harsh words to those whom He felt needed to hear them...

"O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." -Matthew 12:34​

Wow!, Jesus called those religious people "evil." Doesn't sound like a very nice thing to do, huh? The diversity committee wouldn't have liked Jesus' outbursts of contempt and hate speech very much would they? Jesus would have been very unpopular in today's apostate world. Jesus even called them "vipers" (deadly snakes).
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1. Jesus calls one of His own Disciples "Satan"

Jesus didn't discriminate, He evidently seemed to hate everyone, even His own disciples. Listen to what Jesus said to the Apostle Peter when Peter showed concern for Christ's well-being...

"But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." -Matthew 16:23​

Wow, Peter was only trying to be a friend. Peter couldn't have been anymore sincere. Gee Whiz, you'd think Jesus would have been a little more understanding with those closest to Him. Rather, Jesus called Peter "Satan." Wow!, talk about hate speech.
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1. Jesus accuses one of His disciples of being "a devil"

Jesus, while at the dinner table with His disciples, called one of them a "devil"...​

"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" -John 6:70

Jesus' didn't seem to regard His own family either...

"Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?" -Matthew 12:47-48​

Wow!, Jesus sure had a different side to Him that most people don't see (and don't want to see).
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1. Jesus taught that many people will one day burn in Hell

Everyone likes to think about the "God loves you" Jesus, but no one wants to think about the "You're going to burn in hell" Jesus. Well, here He is...

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" -Matthew 25:41​

Huh? Can it be? Is the Loving Saviour actually saying that people will one day burn in the torments of an everlasting fire? Yes, that is exactly true.
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1. Jesus said, do it my way, or burn in Hell when you die!

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6​

Wow!, doesn't sound very diversified does it...do it My way or burn in hell! In fact, Jesus was extremely adamant that there is ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN...

Simply put, it's Jesus or hell. Oprah Winfrey is on the wrong path. Many people are on the wrong path. That means that the Roman Catholic Church is a false religion because they teach that the church, good works, the sacraments, the Rosary, and the blessed virgin Mary are all necessary to enter into heaven. Catholicism is a bunch of lies. Jesus proclaimed that FEW people will ever make it into heaven...

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Hell will be filled with religious people who mocked and scorned the precious name of Jesus Christ, while idolizing the mythical Blessed Virgin Mary. Mary didn't remain a virgin folks, she married and had children (Jesus had brothers). The Catholic Mary is a great illusion, a Satanic deception. You see friend, truth is INTOLERANT...it cannot be compromised. 1 + 1 = 2, nothing can change that. If some liar wants to teach people that 1 +1 = 3, it still doesn't change the truth. If some people are gullible enough to believe the lie, that is their misfortune; but the truth hasn't changed one bit...one plus one will always equal two.​

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http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's Corner/tough_love_jesus.htm