Black Spirituality Religion : Now its time to ruffle some feathers

[cherryblossom]

I listened to this sister's arguments. I followed what I could until I felt like I was experiencing mental whiplash! I find myself able to accept *some* of what she argues/adheres to; yet, there is *some* of what she adheres to/argues that leaves me recognizing that she wants the Black Man freed (to choose Sisters as his life mate) IF she acknowledges that HE is a Black Woman's LORD AND MASTER (and not SHE, herself). Well, for me, it is when she attempts to lay out how that freed Black Man shall thereafter function as A MAN/Lord and Master over her, and her childrens' lives that I think it important to consider HOW such a relationship would *flow*. The *day to day* kind of consideration.

See, a Black Woman with children to nurture and a household to perfect HATES ALL THREATS targeting not just her children, but for a certainty her LIFE MATE too, so...this Sister's EMPHASIS on a freed, naturally ordered Black Man as WARRIOR/PROTECTOR of his woman and children is kind of *one dimensional* and actually fails to take into account the BLACK WOMAN'S instinct-to-conscious FORETHOUGHT brought to bear against ALL THREATS she picks up on, in order to PROTECT what is HERS!

I feel much respect for what this Sister felt compelled to say, but in terms of building, too, she states that the Black Woman played no role in building? I admit I don't know what the so-called conscious community presently teaches about this, which means I don't know why this Sister felt compelled to speak on the matter more than once; still, when I heard her assert this, my immediate instinctive response was something along the lines of "I don't think so. Not correct." So in this assertion of hers, it doesnt sound right to me. Unless someone can explain/show me something in support of what she had to say on this, well (me shrugging).

Gender. I wonder what this Sister (or anyone) can think represents gender-GENIUS, and how the freedom to exercise gender-GENIUS produces *flow* from the mundane to the higher dimensional?


One Love, and PEACE

I didn't get this from the video at all.

This Sister was saying that the Black woman has the highest/most important role of all as the "womb of civilization" and taking care of the home and teaching the children. That is her "position." The Black woman IS THE BUILDER because she molds/shapes/teaches the children.---- The Black man's "position" is to protect/provide/defend his "kingdom" and love/honor and cherish her as his "queen" and mother of his seed.

She also said that the Black woman is not "beneath" him but is his "equal" but in a different capacity. --- She said that, of course, he would consult her/confide in her about decisions in the home/family.

And, she spoke of the animal kingdom and how the "alpha male" is the protector/defender....Likewise, the Black woman will also protect/defend her man and her children from attacks as well, NOT to diminish him/undermine him/or demasculate him but to have his back if he needs it.---- In the animal kingdom, the female is often the most aggressive when protecting her off-spring; and she will "get busy" with her mate when defending their family or territory.

I didn't take what she said as the Black man being her "LORD AND MASTER." --- She said that the Black man is her "Lord and SAVIOR" because he protects her, will give his life for her.

She was basically saying that Black women need to let our men be men and we be his helper. ---- And by doing so, he will lift us up and cherish us even more as his "queen."

As I said, even from the Christian perspective, this is legit. ...

God....Husband...Wife...with husband/wife both being submissive to God's Word and the leading of the Holy Spirit.

 

[cherryblossom]

Fieldpea --- I'm agreeing with your post..

cherryblossom -- I'm agreeing with your post too.

Well, you got me all confused, Sister Vera! lol

 

[MsVeraisblessed]

Well, you got me all confused, Sister Vera! lol

Both of you gave some valid inputs and i understood them.... even tho it's both from different lenses.. i still liked it..

 

[MsVeraisblessed]

I'm going to go back over this video with someone else and more feedback..

 

[cherryblossom]

Right on the video it says, "The Black man and woman is NOT GOD. Both our EGOs are out of control. Because of this, we are not concentrating on our true mission."


This video also speaks to alla those so-called "Independent Women" who bought into that "I don't need a man" mentality.

Cuz, that may be exactly why they don't HAVE ONE.

This video speaks to the "gender wars" between Black men and women.

How can we be a strong, balanced Black family unit warring with/against each other?

How can we BUILD strong Black children into adults when we see/view each other with these "ego trips?"

Like I said, even from a Christian perspective, I agree with this Sister.

She was on-point to me as my Bible teaches me.

2 Chron. 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Proverbs 31:

8 Open your mouth for the dumb [those unable to speak for themselves], for the rights of all who are left desolate anddefenseless;
9 Open your mouth, judge righteously, and administer justice for the poor and needy.
10 A capable, intelligent, and [b]virtuous woman—who is he who can find her? She is far more precious than jewels and her value is far above rubies or pearls.
11 The heart of her husband trusts in her confidently and relies on and believes in her securely, so that he has no lack of [honest] gain or need of [dishonest] spoil.
12 She comforts, encourages, and does him only good as long as there is life within her.
13 She seeks out wool and flax and works with willing hands [to develop it].
14 She is like the merchant ships loaded with foodstuffs; she brings her household’s food from a far [country].
15 She rises while it is yet night and gets [spiritual] food for her household and assigns her maids their tasks.
16 She considers a [new] field before she buys or accepts it [expanding prudently and not courting neglect of her present duties by assuming other duties]; with her savings [of time and strength] she plants fruitful vines in her vineyard.
17 She girds herself with strength [spiritual, mental, and physical fitness for her God-given task] and makes her arms strong and firm.
18 She tastes and sees that her gain from work [with and for God] is good; her lamp goes not out, but it burns on continually through the night [of trouble, privation, or sorrow, warning away fear, doubt, and distrust].
19 She lays her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
20 She opens her hand to the poor, yes, she reaches out her filled hands to the needy [whether in body, mind, or spirit].
21 She fears not the snow for her family, for all her household are doubly clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes for herself coverlets, cushions, and rugs of tapestry. Her clothing is of linen, pure and fine, and of purple [such as that of which the clothing of the priests and the hallowed cloths of the temple were made].
23 Her husband is known in the [city’s] gates, when he sits among the elders of the land.
24 She makes fine linen garments and leads others to buy them; she delivers to the merchants girdles [or sashes that free one up for service].
25 Strength and dignity are her clothing and her position is strong and secure; she rejoices over the future [the latter day or time to come, knowing that she and her family are in readiness for it]!
26 She opens her mouth in skillful and godly Wisdom, and on her tongue is the law of kindness [giving counsel and instruction].
27 She looks well to how things go in her household, and the bread of idleness (gossip, discontent, and self-pity) she will not eat.
28 Her children rise up and call her blessed (happy, fortunate, and to be envied); and her husband boasts of and praises her, [saying],
29 [c]Many daughters have done virtuously, nobly, and well [with the strength of character that is steadfast in goodness], but you excel them all.
30 Charm and grace are deceptive, and beauty is vain [because it is not lasting], but a woman who reverently and worshipfully fears the Lord, she shall be praised!
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands, and let her own works praise her in the gates [of the city]!