Black Spirituality Religion : Are we living in Hell, but don't know it?

[Asomfwaa]

You claim I was speaking to you like some white boy, yet you claim white people shaped your ideas. Did I miss the correlation here?

You must have.

If you did not know that Europeans educate Africans in America, you do not know anything.

 

[thePreacher]

This is right on point and also reveals that there are many of our people as well as the masses who have bought into that mythical dam place that the Bible calls Hell !! It's amazing really, because a review of the planets people or those that are left who remember because the story was passed down, reveals that, "hell as it's been described to us was never a reality until our people and others came into contact with that beast that we know of as a white devil!!" We never had prisons until the white man. We never had nursing homes until the white man. We never had juvenile delinquency until the white man. We never had broken families until the white man. We never had high cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart attacks or a short life span until the white man. We never had a polluted earth, food, water or air until the white man. Ish!!!...the white man is hell...and realistically, they are the only hell we have ever known!!!

And, yet, we put on uniforms and kill strangers for him, we take jobs to collect what he considers to be debts owed him, we vote for one of two Heads of States he picks for us every four years, and we have enthusiastically adopted his religion of choice as our own.

What is happening is that we _choose_ to be slaves because we do not _believe_ we can do better. Yeah, we don't like it. We cry about it all the time. But, then, after we get thru crying about it, every day, we get up, clock in, and do what ever Massa tells us we have to do to 'make a living'.

Note, we have always had the necessary weapons to fight for and win our Self-liberation.

But, we _choose_ not to. Instead, we keep on blaming Massa for not freeing us slaves. And, we keep on blaming _other_ slaves for nor rising up and killing Massa.

So we wait ... and wait ... and wait for those ignorant other slaves to kill Massa for us.

In this hell which we create for ourselves on Earth, we are all [white and black] demons. What distinquishes black from white demons here in hell is that Satan has setup a hierarchy which we all [black and white] follow -- a hierarchy where we all [white and black] work for Satan. The white man's job is to be the slave master and the black man's job is to be the slave.

A most relevant question waits to be answered ...

Who is this Satan who both whites and blacks are currently working for?

 

[Asomfwaa]

My question to you is, were we living in hell before the caucasoid or non black was born on this planet? I personally feel non blacks are serving a purpose. That purpose, mainly being to manifest the opposite of ourselves which is evil, which in turn is a hellish existence. Most black people are unaware of this, but initiated white folk are.

This was a conversation that took place on ATS. It was supposedly a illuminati insider who came on the forum and was giving out certain details on their plans. Now he clearly states he was allowed to do so to serve a purpose. This becomes a common theme if you read on further. I must warn you that this as always has its eurocentric twist to it, but if you are familiar with Black Roots Science you will notice the similiarities.


ATS: Your answer to the 6 displines of learning are quite similiar to a book about atlantis that was supposed to have been channeled, was this also a time for your bloodlines to post answers?
HH: Yes, that is correct, again, in a manner of speaking. Other, shall we say "off world entities" also visited the planet at that time, and passed down their own understandings of Creation as well as their 'technology', from what we could best describe as being 'a future aspect of yourselves'. It was Humanity's errors in handling this information that ultimately led to the destruction of Atlantis.
Having now answered a question on whether or not our lineage is of Human origin, I can return to tie in that answer with an explanation as to "Who is our Creator". I'm dancing close to the line in answering this, but the record needs to be set straight, and I should just about be able to get away with it without incurring my own 'upline's' displeasure.

Let us get to the crux of the matter.

Your Creator, the one you have called 'Yahweh', is not "God" inasmuch as your bible refers to him as being "the One True God". He is 'a' Creator (or Sub-Sub-Logos) rather than the One Infinite Creator. He is not even a Galactic level Logos, but rather, is the Planetary Logos for this one planet.

Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star".

Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'.

Allow me to elucidate:

When an entity (Group Soul Complex) evolves to the level of the Sixth Density, it is by comparison to the amount of time it takes to get that far, a mere hop skip and a jump from 8th Density Ultimate Re-Union with The One Infinite Creator, and then from there, back to dissolution into the Source of All, Intelligent Infinity.

We (our Bloodline Families), as a Group Soul or Social Memory Complex (Lucifer), were on the verge of Seventh Density Ascension, though at this level, before Harvest comes, we have the choice to progress higher, or, to return to help others of lower densities with their own evolution, by passing down our knowledge and Wisdom (Light) to those that call upon us for assistance, with their own Free Will.

Now, at this time, having made our decision to stay and help our Galactic Brothers and Sisters in The One, we were assigned a challenging task by the Council of Elders, who act as the Guardians of this Galaxy from their Eighth Density 'Head Quarters' on the planet Saturn.

Yahweh, due to the fact that he had NOT (as was his right as Planetary Logos) handed down his own Free Will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon 'his' planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. So we (Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "Fell", or Descended back to a place where we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a 3rd Density manifestation of ourself.

Yahweh had agreed to our coming, in fact it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "Catalyst" of change to enter into his Creation, and share the knowledge and wisdom we had attained through our Ascensions. In the absence of Free Will upon the planet, there can be no Polarity, and therefore, nothing to 'choose' between. Just as is portrayed in the book of Genesis, the planet was very "Edenic" in nature. Sure, it was a lovely 'paradise', yet the Beings incarnating there had no agitator toward evolving beyond the 3rd Density, and therefore, little hope of ever making the journey Home, to The One. Yahweh has been happy to keep his own little pet Eden Project in effect, but with little chance of the Souls here making it Home, it had become in effect, an albeit very beautiful 'Prison'. Yahweh was, in modern parlance, running a benign dictatorship.
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Without Polarity, (derived from Free Will), there is only the Unity of Love and Light, and no choice to experience 'other than' that. So, we were to be the Catalyst for change, in order to provide that choice, thus bringing Polarity. Yahweh agreed that we would introduce the concept of Free Will to Earth's inhabitants, by offering them an initial choice, as to whether they 'wanted' it or not. Hence, "The Tree of the Knowledge of 'Good and Evil'" (or more accurately, the Knowledge of Polarity, of Positive or Negative). Yahweh takes his inhabitants to a new 'garden' and tells them you can do anything you like, except this one thing, thus creating the desire to do the one thing there are told they cannot. Hence, a "Choice". We provide the Catalyst by telling them the benefits of attaining Knowledge, they eat from the tree, and the rest is history.

Yahweh thought that his 'Children' would still choose to obey him, and when he discovered they did not, he became angry. As he himself describes in his scriptures, he is a "Jealous God", and he did not like it that his 'children' had chose to disobey him, and follow our advice. We're already committed to being here for a predefined set of "Cycles" to help provide the Catalyst for Human evolution, namely by offering you the Negative Option, or that which you choose to call "evil". Now that Free Will had been granted, Yahweh could not retract it, and we have to stay here as contracted to continue to provide the planet with the Polarity choice. Since then, Yahweh has confined us (as a Group Soul) here within the Earth's Astral Planes (which is very constricting and uncomfortable for a Being of our Wisdom and experience). The Council of Elders gave us the choice to be released (against Yahweh's will), but at the cancellation of our contract to Serve the planet earth; or to remain and fulfil our assignment, and endure Yahweh's self proclaimed "Wrath". We stayed, but as a karmic result of our Group Soul's confinement by Yahweh, our own individuated Souls were given the mandate (by The Council) to "Rule" over Yahweh's people during our physical incarnations here on your planet.

Let's be clear about one thing though. All of this (physical life / incarnation), is a very intricate and skillfully designed Game, whereby the One Infinite Creator, plays the game of forgetting who It is, so that It can learn to remember, and in doing so, experience and know Itself as Creator. All the way down to us tiny individuated sparks of the All That Is. Off stage, and between "Lives" (zero-point time / anti-matter Universe) as incarnated "human beings", we, all of us / you (as Souls), are great friends. Brothers and Sisters in The One.

Between 'lives' we all have a great laugh about the parts we have performed in the 'play', and look forward to and have great fun preparing the next chapters to act out.

I hope that during the above answer, I have also adequately covered your question on "what is our interpretation of good vrs evil? If not, please say, and I will go into more detail.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
This scene from the matrix I found very revealing. Who do you think Agent Smith is really referring his dialogue towards? Morpheus? I think not. If you are familiar with the psychosis of projection, you will see what I mean.

If White people knew the truth they would stand down.

What's with the matrix fancy? It's an allegory. So what?

Black folk are pretending like they never saw an allegory or fable before.

 

[info-moetry]

 

[Asomfwaa]

And, yet, we put on uniforms and kill strangers for him, we take jobs to collect what he considers to be debts owed him, we vote for one of two Heads of States he picks for us every four years, and we have enthusiastically adopted his religion of choice as our own.

What is happening is that we _choose_ to be slaves because we do not _believe_ we can do better. Yeah, we don't like it. We cry about it all the time. But, then, after we get thru crying about it, every day, we get up, clock in, and do what ever Massa tells us we have to do to 'make a living'.

Note, we have always had the necessary weapons to fight for and win our Self-liberation.

But, we _choose_ not to. Instead, we keep on blaming Massa for not freeing us slaves. And, we keep on blaming _other_ slaves for nor rising up and killing Massa.

So we wait ... and wait ... and wait for those ignorant other slaves to kill Massa for us.

In this hell which we create for ourselves on Earth, we are all [white and black] demons. What distinquishes black from white demons here in hell is that Satan has setup a hierarchy which we all [black and white] follow -- a hierarchy where we all [white and black] work for Satan. The white man's job is to be the slave master and the black man's job is to be the slave.

A most relevant question waits to be answered ...

Who is this Satan who both whites and blacks are currently working for?

I almost like this post. Though never could I call an African a slave and never could I call a European a master. But it's true that too many of us want others to do the "work."

But it's not true that this is a global condition or that this 'system' needs a Satan.

It's said that Black people always knock on the wrong door, talk to the wrong people and ask the wrong questions.

Here you complicate with the idea of Satan when this all is evidently a culture clash.

So to speak, what Whites do to Blacks, Whites do to Whites. In other words, what we dislike is what Whites do. This is hard to educate but this is the truth.