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The question of instinct brings in the question of whether we actually have free will. Have you seen this talk before?
Response to the Video.
Free Will is Influence by too many factors known and unknown....
Some Factors weigh more in the decision making process...Once an Individual Accepts Racism - Most Black will suffer under his hand or influence.
Food influences Mood has been known for years hence business is often Conducted around meals or while having a meal.
Once a process is understood it often seems mechanistic.....
The more decision making process is understood the more it appears mechanical or predetermined....That does not diminish free will
The More Instinctive the more predictable....The more Intuitive the less predictable
Everything has a cause....Randomness is just that we do not understand the pattern of causes leading to particular eventuality.
In conclusion:
99% of all Physical/Animal life is deterministic because they are all responding to the influence biology and environment.
The 1% is not Responding but Acting in and on their Biology and Environment through being Spiritual and Striving to bring more Spirit to their physical reality.
The whole process of Spirituality is to be Free of Biology and Environment ....hence Meditation causes on to feel as if one is cut off from the outside influence - Sensory Depravation.I'd like to hear your thoughts on this and I'll share my opinion as well. I'm especially fascinated by this, as a programmer because I've thought on this for a long time as well as how "robotic" I myself have been and how "robotic" other people seem to be, especially when they lack the more social programming. It seems like there are simply layers of "code" for different systems that result in our complete behavior. And if one of those systems is damaged or the energy flowing through it is "blocked" (kind of like blocking chakras) then the difference between person and robot becomes less coherent, if that makes sense.
No....And if "blocked" (considering conditions like autism), then that energy can go more into another system, logic/reason for example (but not necessarily this), to "compensate" similar to what often happens to hearing after vision loss.
At the end of the day we are biological machines with energy moving through our internal organs. Even if I write a program, I may write it because I'm executing the program (function) my job requires me. However, I work for a family-owned business so did the original owner not make a free will decision to start the company when he could have worked for someone else?
We are not biological Machines.....We are using a biological machine - but we believe and act as if we are Biological Machines.
Basically we are Spiritual Being having a Physical Experience....The body is driven by the need for Energy - Spirit has no need for Energy.Naturally, all of our decisions are driving by energy; driven by the need for energy and our decisions all manipulate energy. If we think about this too hard it basically obliterates human concepts like romance, but then again, we have to consider free will as sort of being the "space between" environmental factors or (in terms of scientific experimentation...) "controls". These controls are basically "constants" rather than variables. So even if, given the constants, human behavior can be predicted to a 90% degree of certainty (it may be higher), the fact that we're not wholly logical, the fact that we can react in different ways, or choose different paths, acting out of our (Jung) Shadow or Dark Side, or through consciousness/awareness our light or "enlightened" state... even if it is a completely binary switch of which millions of such switches creates a computer, we still live in a world of choices. And now our awareness is seeping beyond the binary choice, to the spectrum of choices in between.
The Elements are Spiritual Devices that are used to maintain Physical Reality...just as how the body is a Spiritual Device for the apparent purpose of experiencing physical reality.The primary constants are the forces of nature. I think ancient science understood this and these became the primal "gods", more elemental in nature. After these gods produce the elements, the elements interact with each other (have children). And this continues but the one constant, "animating force", is always present. We're always gathering that energy or gathering and consuming what has gathered that energy. And so, naturally, this procession of energy, progressing into different forms and functions, is why I believe in THE FORCE. Just as pharaoh Ahkenaten tried to unify the Egyptian gods into one - which I'm sure you have a deeper understanding of.
True enough.But just as this force, creates branching pathways through matter, I think free will is our ability to choose and guide energy along different pathways, creating, by self-organization, these path ways just like we create roads and bridges. And of course we all have programming. We all have DNA telling us what we are and how to use energy and how to convert energy from biomass. So much like asking AI at a prompt... not knowing or caring how the AI exactly arrived at the answer, because all we care about is the answer when in reality its whole thought process was guided by an algorithm.