Pan Africanism : Zimbabwe planning Chinese lessons

Discussion in 'Black History - Culture - Panafricanism' started by panafrica, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4649692.stm
     
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    youngblackceo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Typical neo-colonalism game man!.. This shows you how cheaply our so called leaders sale us out for...
     
  3. Riada

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    Yes, one African leader after another opens the door to Asia and to the west. The Nigerian leaders opened the door to the Europeans and the Asians too. These leaders are the root of the problem THESE DAYS. Yet, we continue to blame the Asians and Europeans for exploiting Africa when we really need to hold these leaders responsible.

    It was explained to me that some African leaders (especially in Nigeria) open the doors to foreigners because these leaders are stealing multi-millions and billions of their country's money and they need places to hide the loot. When they do business with China, for example, they can hide a bunch of money in Chinese banks and investment houses. We already know that Europe has untold billions of Africa's money because the African leaders put it there as is exposed periodically in various magazine and newspaper articles.

    We can keep blaming Europeans and Asians if it makes us feel better, but as long as we don't hold Black adults responsible for devastating our communities and countries, they will definitely continue to do it.
     
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    Money has always promted us to destroy us. some things are not changing. what happens to those who speak out against these greedy "leaders"?
     
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    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Lack of vision is destroying us! Our people can't invision Africans (black Africans) being the solutions to African problems. That is why we try to trade one exploiter for another: From the Arab to the European to the Asian.
     
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    karmashines Banned MEMBER

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    Hmm. Interesting.

    So why do the leaders keep getting away with this? Is there freedom to speak up against them in some of these countries? If so, why aren't more exposing them?

    The people are the ones with the ultimate power, not the government. If enough people were riled enough, the government would have to change or fall.
     
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    yeah that too.
     
  8. Riada

    Riada Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The leaders are miliitary men--DICTATORS. They are KILLERS!! If you start speaking out, you'd also better start planning your funeral. Even when they tried to have a civilian government, the military was waiting in the wings to take back control if things didn't go right and things rarely go right over there. So the military took over again.

    There is mindboggling corruption there. For example, if you go to get an application for a government job, you have to bribe the clerk to get it or you absolutely won't get. I'm not talking about the job itself, just the application to apply for the job. The clerk will say at first that they don't have any more applications, even if you're looking at the applications stacked on the desk!!
    If you point at the applications and ask, "Aren't those the applications?" the clerk will answer, "Those are the old applications." If you pull out a bunch of naira (their currency) and pretend to drop them and push them under the desk, the clerk will bend down under the desk and get the money,count it and say, "Oh, I think I made a mistake, these are the new applications." If the bribe is not big enough, the clerk will say something like, "Let me go and ask the supervisor." This means that you need to drop more money because the clerk has to pay off the supervisor who also has to share the bribe with his or her supervisor and on up the food chain.

    In Nigeria, what you see is rarely what it actually is. It's a coded culture, just like Chinese culture or any other very old non-western culture. It's like several scenes being shown on the same screen at the same time. It's almost impossible for foreigners to decipher what happening at any moment. Americans are like babies there. White businessmen are almost always accompanied by a Nigerian just about everywhere they go because they don't know what's going on otherwise. It's not just the language. Things and people are rarely what they seem to be.
     
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    In my opinion, trading with external forces is fine (but some mindsets feel all trading entities must be black, so those that feel that way will never agree on such approaches). Regardless, I think most would agree that things become problematic when resources trickle out of a nation.

    For example, let's say that all of this encourages African to use their skills in China. That would be all well and good, as long as they return back to their countries with whatever they have gained from the Chinese economy. Often times this doesn't happen... people immigrate out and continue to reside in whatever country. This is especially the case with people coming to America. So anything they have gained now goes back into another economy, one which was probably more stable to begin with than the economy they came from. This of course is not to knock those that decide to stay, especially if they can build some type of infrastructure for their community in the new country, but if this is done on a mass scale, then how is the original economy going to be rebuilt?

    Riada also brought up the point that some African leaders are doing this to put their stolen money in Chinese banks.

    So ultimately, I would say if an action is going to lead into an increase of resources into the African economy while keeping everything intact culturally, etc. then it is one that needs to be taken. If it's going to possibly subtract resources from the African economy it is one that should be avoided or at least done with caution.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with learning a foreign language, especially one that is likely to play a dominant role in economic life in the future.If the zimbabwean government is doing it on the basis of promoting economic and cultural ties with China, than there is nothing wrong. What i would not like to see is the use of force to introduce a language.language is an instrument of power you only have to look at the English language and its dominant role in international commerce, politics, culture.China itself has been promoting the use of the English as a second language.so if it is being done to pursue an economic interest there is nothing entirely wrong.
     
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