Black Spirituality Religion : You shall not TATTOO yourselves

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  1. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    When the New testament was published.

    Did the Old Testiment become obsolete?

    Many today live by the Old Testiment.

    Many today practice, live and only read the New Testiment.

    Here is a passage from the Old Testiment. It is also in the New!

    OLD....testiment

    NEW.... testiment

    Many do not live by the ten ( 10 ) commandments within either?

    This does raise concerns for me when THOU SHALL NOT KILL is ignored wholeheartly by so many.
     
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    hmmmm....

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    This is good food for thought. I see so many people today with tatoos and I wonder. . .
     
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    i think that this speaks to the conflict the romans had with the egyptians and greeks moreso than anything else....egyptians had mad tattoos....

    one love
    khasm
     
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    Just an "f.y.i," Brother Hodee.....

    Leviticus is in the Old Testament.

    That verse is only found in Leviticus, not the New Testament. You referenced it the 2nd time from the "New International Bible," but that's not the New Testament.
     
  6. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank You Sister cherryblossom

    I know a lot of the Old Testament spoke about things like slaves and masters and even this tattoo verse. A lot of how many Christian Whites treated African Americans was based on the old testament.

    Please if known. Share with me your opinion. The verse is from the old, and was not translated into the New Testament.

    Was the New Testament written so that many more would read the bible, the Old is hard to read and is full of things that appear negative like the reference to slaves and masters?

    Was the New written and things not included to make the bible more popular?

    I saw this court program and this lady was sueing her extranged husband because he had allowed their 16 year old son to get a tattoo of praying hands on his back.

    I knew she was quoting from the old.

    How popular is the Old still and do some churches still read from it?

    Thanks Sister.. any information anyone can supply would be appreciated.

    I am not one to judge, I know many who have tattoo's.
    Folks do what they do and as they want.

    http://www.newhavenrtc.com/articles...utm_content=Cutting&utm_campaign=NH-G-Cutting

    Should the Old be given credit or used when needed to bring up Christian Values
    and to remind those who believe that they are not following God's will?

    I posted this because I saw the law suit.

    The lady won a few hundred because she was stressed about the tatoo and was a ardent Bible Reader and Christian.
    She won Emotional Stress damages.
     
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    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I am still trying to find out what cutting for the dead means?

    Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead nor print any marks upon you I am the LORD

    Ye shall not make
    nathan (naw-than')
    to give, used with greatest latitude of application (put, make, etc.)

    any
    kthobeth (keth-o'-beth)
    a letter or other mark branded on the skin -- any (mark).

    cuttings
    seret (seh'-ret)
    an incision -- cutting.

    in your flesh
    basar (baw-sawr')
    flesh (from its freshness); by extension, body, person; also (by euphem.) the pudenda of a man -- body, (fat, lean) flesh(-ed), kin, (man-)kind, + nakedness, self, skin.

    for the dead
    nephesh (neh'-fesh)
    a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental)

    nor print
    nathan (naw-than')
    to give, used with greatest latitude of application (put, make, etc.)

    any marks
    qa`aqa` (kah-ak-ah')
    an incision or gash -- + mark
     
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    Things that make me go hmmmm.... too
     
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    Well, Brother Hodee, you've covered a pretty wide spectrum here; but I'm gonna try to address it to my understanding of Old Testament versus New Testament....

    As for the Book of Leviticus, also known as "The Law" or "Mosaic Law," when those laws are extrapolated to the New Testament, they are still applicable but tempered by the coming of Jesus, His death and resurrection.


    For example, the "Sacrificial Laws" were fulfilled by Jesus. No longer did Man need to make a sacrifice to God.----Jesus, "THE LAMB OF GOD" took away the sins of the world.'

    No longer did Man need to "Atone" or "purify" by a set of rules. Jesus fulfilled that "Atonement" and "Purification."


    However, we are ALL under the "law" of the COMMANDMENTS...


    So, as for tattoos, if one of the Commandments in the Old Testament speaks against "graven images" (engraved, pressed, sculptured) and the New Testament says that your body is not your own but is the TEMPLE of God within you, then, how do those two relate?

    What else is a tattoo if not a "graven image?" Some people even get "religious" tattoos of scripture or angels.....But are not Angels of Heaven? Is not the Word of Heaven AND of the Earth?
     
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    Many people split both the Old and the New Testament, not understanding they both still and always will play a great part in the lives of the faithful. Though the laws of the Old Testament don't exactly apply the same as they did back when, they still do apply, and must be kept, including not getting tattoos.

    We just must be believing and faithful to the One who died for our sins and who was resurrected from the dead, to have a full understanding of all the laws our our KING and Savior, and to be brought unto salvation.
     
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