Black Spirituality Religion : Yes...Jesus was a Jew

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  1. diakonos

    diakonos Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Jesus was indeed a Jew. If you don’t believe that, go to the Gospel of Matthew which traces the lineage of Jesus to Abraham.
    As for his followers, they didn’t see themselves as “Christians”, but they saw what they were doing in the context of Judaism. They were often referred to as people of “The Way.” The term “Christian” didn’t come into play until the people of “The Way” were persecuted and chased out of Jerusalem. It was at the Church of Antioch that believers were first called Christians.
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    JESUS WAS NOT A Jew

    by Jason Collett

    "Many denominational Christians and even church leaders are under the mistaken belief that Jesus was a Jew. But nothing could be further from the truth.

    Judea and Galilee were two separate states and political entities, as illustrated on the map of Palestine in the time of our Saviour in your Bible. Jesus Himself was not a Jew (Judean) or resident of Judea, He was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prominence were not of the Tribe of Judah, but of Edomites. Pilate was being ironic when he wrote the sign "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Judeans" for the Cross (John 19:19). That is, "the Galilean who was King of the Judeans," as in "Queen Victoria of England, Empress of India." Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. His disciples were fishermen from the Sea of Galilee. And although He visited Jerusalem, he spent most of His life in his home country of Galilee. John 7:1, "After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him." His followers were constrained "for fear of the Jews" (John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).

    Why was this?

    Psalm 83:3 says God's elect are "hidden" or protected ones, and that they are under attack from a coalition of evil groups led by Edom. Who was Edom?

    Esau, the brother of the patriarch Jacob, became the ancestor of the people called Edom, or Idumea. The Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, XIII ix 1; XV vii 9 instructs us: John Hyrcanus forcibly assimilated the Edomites as a national group and they became "Jews" in about 120BC. The Jewish historian Josephus, who lived just after the time of Christ, wrote, "They [Edom] were hereafter no other than Jews'. The Jewish scholar Cecil Roth in his Concise Jewish Encyclopedia (1980) says on page 154, "John Hyrcanus forcibly converted [Edom] to Judaism. From then on they were part of the Jewish people. In the Talmud the name of Edom was applied to Christian Rome, and was then used for Christianity in general"........."


    JESUS WAS NOT A Jew

    Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian - Researcher - Scholar.
    From "Common Sense", p. 2-1-53 and 5-1-59


    ..."Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.

    During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

    In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.

    Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers"....."

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
     
  3. Bootzey

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    Then why could (and was) his ancestry traced back to King David who was clearly a Jew. And why would it be a problem if Jesus was infact a jew? Judiasm is not just a religion, it's a culture too.
     
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    The Son of the Father was definitely a Jew, as He stated salvation is of the Jews(Judaeans). It's correct that His lineage goes back to David, and He was a Judaean, and He spoke, in His Revelation, that there were those calling themselves Jews, who were not, which we can understand are those who call themselves so today.

    He came for His people, Israel, and is salvation and Light to all, Israelite and gentile, believing and faithful in His sacrifice, miracles, teachings, and resurrection, but that doesn't change who He came as in the flesh. This is what even Paul spoke of, letting it be known, Israel was still loved by the Father, having sent His Son through such a people.

    So there's no denying His bloodline, and who the true Jews are.
     
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    This is crazy!...and even IF you wanted to just go by what the Bible said...then David was a Homosexual...so now we putting God all up in that ish too, huh??....And if you doubt that David was a Homosexual, then maybe you need to go back and read that Bible again !!

    Mind you, I'm only speaking on this from a Biblical perspective...because I already know that none of them jokers ever existed, which kind of accounts for why man can find the graves and history of everybody out there....but when it comes to one of them jokers...everything is a mystery, a question, a possibility....everything but where they are!
     
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    I don't know about "Jesus", but Yeshua was not a "Jew", not a "Christian", but he was a Hebrew, supposedly in the line of David, who was king of both Israel and Yaudaya ("Judah").

    What are the sources which prove that the "religion" of David was Judaism?
     
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