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It's not too early to mention Christmas. Many do not celebrate this day, because of its commercial relevance. Many do not recognize this day because it has pagan ties. Many do not celebrate this day because it has religious relevance. Many do not celebrate this day because it still has related facts contested to this day. Regardless of your beliefs or your reasons for not celebrating this day. It is with us yearly.
I didn't know there was contested facts that Jesus was probably born in a cave, instead of a stable.
It is a shame that even the gospel isn't free of corrupt minds and hands of man.
When you go to Bethlehem to visit where Jesus was born. They take you to a cave.
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http://churches.wcg.org/ilocandia-ph/FYI/areacoord/stable.htm
WAS JESUS BORN IN A STABLE?
by Harry Bilyeu, D.Min.
Crowded though it may have been, Jesus was born in a house. Since we know from archaeology and history the greater number of the homes of first century Bethlehem were hewn out of the rock caves that have always been so abundant in the area, it was probably a cave house.
Almost certainly Jesus was born in the house of relatives, very possibly that of an uncle, auntie or even grandparents. Because of the crowded conditions a feeding trough for the family animals was cleaned out, laid with fresh, clean hay and Jesus placed warmly inside.
What does this say to us? That Jesus was born in such a way that we can all relate to having access to Him. He was not born in a castle or a temple where only the wealthy, the noble and the religious could have access to Him. Those we call the wise men were certainly wealthy, respected and well known throughout the region. But the lowly shepherds had access to Him as well.
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Brain Candy
Xmas trivia
http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/xmastrivia.html
Jesus Christ, son of Mary, was born in a cave, not in a wooden stable. Caves were used to keep animals in because of the intense heat. A large church is now built over the cave, and people can go down inside the cave. The carpenters of Jesus' day were really stone cutters. Wood was not used as widely as it is today. So whenever you see a Christmas nativity scene with a wooden stable -- that's the "American" version, not the Biblical one.
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The "Twelve Days of Christmas" was originally written to help Catholic children, in England, remember different articles of faith during the persecution by Protestant Monarchs. The "true love" represented God, and the gifts all different ideas:
The "Partridge in a pear tree" was Christ.
2 Turtle Doves = The Old and New Testaments
3 French Hens = Faith, Hope and Charity-- the Theological Virtues
4 Calling Birds = the Four Gospels and/or the Four Evangelists
5 Golden Rings = The first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch", which relays the history of man's fall from grace.
6 Geese A-laying = the six days of Creation
7 Swans A-swimming = the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit, the seven sacraments
8 Maids A-milking = the eight beatitudes
9 Ladies Dancing = the nine Fruits of the Holy Spirit
10 Lords A-leaping = the ten commandments
11 Pipers Piping = the eleven faithful apostles
12 Drummers Drumming = the twelve points of doctrine in the Apostle's Creed
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Christmas was once a moveable feast celebrated at many different times during the year. The choice of December 25, was made by Pope Julius I, in the 4th century A.D., because this coincided with the pagan rituals of Winter Solstice, or Return of the Sun. The intent was to replace the pagan celebration with the Christian one.
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I didn't know there was contested facts that Jesus was probably born in a cave, instead of a stable.
It is a shame that even the gospel isn't free of corrupt minds and hands of man.
When you go to Bethlehem to visit where Jesus was born. They take you to a cave.
============
http://churches.wcg.org/ilocandia-ph/FYI/areacoord/stable.htm
WAS JESUS BORN IN A STABLE?
by Harry Bilyeu, D.Min.
Crowded though it may have been, Jesus was born in a house. Since we know from archaeology and history the greater number of the homes of first century Bethlehem were hewn out of the rock caves that have always been so abundant in the area, it was probably a cave house.
Almost certainly Jesus was born in the house of relatives, very possibly that of an uncle, auntie or even grandparents. Because of the crowded conditions a feeding trough for the family animals was cleaned out, laid with fresh, clean hay and Jesus placed warmly inside.
What does this say to us? That Jesus was born in such a way that we can all relate to having access to Him. He was not born in a castle or a temple where only the wealthy, the noble and the religious could have access to Him. Those we call the wise men were certainly wealthy, respected and well known throughout the region. But the lowly shepherds had access to Him as well.
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Brain Candy
Xmas trivia
http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/xmastrivia.html
Jesus Christ, son of Mary, was born in a cave, not in a wooden stable. Caves were used to keep animals in because of the intense heat. A large church is now built over the cave, and people can go down inside the cave. The carpenters of Jesus' day were really stone cutters. Wood was not used as widely as it is today. So whenever you see a Christmas nativity scene with a wooden stable -- that's the "American" version, not the Biblical one.
============
The "Twelve Days of Christmas" was originally written to help Catholic children, in England, remember different articles of faith during the persecution by Protestant Monarchs. The "true love" represented God, and the gifts all different ideas:
The "Partridge in a pear tree" was Christ.
2 Turtle Doves = The Old and New Testaments
3 French Hens = Faith, Hope and Charity-- the Theological Virtues
4 Calling Birds = the Four Gospels and/or the Four Evangelists
5 Golden Rings = The first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch", which relays the history of man's fall from grace.
6 Geese A-laying = the six days of Creation
7 Swans A-swimming = the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit, the seven sacraments
8 Maids A-milking = the eight beatitudes
9 Ladies Dancing = the nine Fruits of the Holy Spirit
10 Lords A-leaping = the ten commandments
11 Pipers Piping = the eleven faithful apostles
12 Drummers Drumming = the twelve points of doctrine in the Apostle's Creed
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Christmas was once a moveable feast celebrated at many different times during the year. The choice of December 25, was made by Pope Julius I, in the 4th century A.D., because this coincided with the pagan rituals of Winter Solstice, or Return of the Sun. The intent was to replace the pagan celebration with the Christian one.
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