Black People Politics : Would ~YOU~ Be a Better President?

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  1. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Building a Self Democracy.

    A newer day is upon us. As we look out to the future trying to forecast which way the pendulum will swing, we must, within our separate moments consider that we already have the answer to "our" problems. We don't need anyone to tell us what those problems are, and we don't need anyone to show us how to fix them. What we need really is a way to manifest our solutions without other forces getting in the way trying to derail us.

    Would you make be a better President? What would your proposal to Black America sound like?

    Perhaps it sounds like I believe in you too much, but actually I believe in my "self" - but the is the person I will be voting for come November:

    http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=NFUB&altl=TBJFODF

    What about you?

    What do you think a self democracy is?
     
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    No, i don't think i would. It seems that the presidency requires someone that at least appears to look out for everyone equitably, and right now, my focus is my own people. In addition, politicians in general, seem to be great liars ... and i'm not very good at that either.

    It's oftentimes overwhelming to me, just managing this small community, i'd be (more) krazee if i had to manage the country!


    It would sound just like this community sounds ... or how i sound in this community ... :)


    i don't know what that is.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa!

    True statement: "No all those who wander are lost."

     
  4. Metaverse

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    You are indeed an amazing woman Mother Destee. Actually I can see you in politics, more in the Cynthia McKinney category.

    But let's clear up what a "self democracy" is. Now a "democracy" is "supposed to be" when we are "ruled by simple people" you know how they say in court, we have a right to be judged by a "jury of our peers" well that is what a true democracy is about.

    A self- democracy is people who look out for their own self interests communicate and network together in order to govern their environment.

    This is "almost" what Destee.com is. Almost. If we had a 100% self democracy here we would communicate to each other about what is working in our lives and give instructions about how others could replicate those solutions if they wanted too.

    Some have suggested that the American Government is really a self democracy and perhaps they are right. There are a group of people who look out for the own self interests in order to generate success and network with others that want to replicate the same.

    In a self democracy I could say to my family here at Destee.com, look I made $40,000 with a travel service in Ghana and purchased several acres worth of land there. And then I could communicate further how others could do the same. "Ruled by simple people." Was I looking out for my people when I made the $40,000? Perhaps not, perhaps I was looking after my own self interests. But I can then communicate that method to others who wish the same for themselves.

    A "President" is basically a chief of an organization. If there is no "organization" there is no President. It's like the capstone on a pyramid. You know you have some Black folks with the title "President" on their business card and there is no one under them, no organization, it's just a sole proprietorship.

    Destee.com is an organization. Mother Destee is the President. Your life could also be considered an organization, even if we may not see it as organized at all. Who is the Chief of your life? You are.

    The truth is, if we governed ourselves correctly and in a healthy way, our "self democracy" will work perfectly. First of all, when you love yourself you would never give out advice that would harm others or create illness for them. You would never "rule" in a stressful fashion.

    But naturally in a self democracy those who express the same points of view gravitate into the same halls and buildings, this is a major flaw in self democracy and democracy in general. Because when this happens we have a strange habit of trying to fight against others we assume oppose our point of view when in actuality these groups are looking out for their self interests as well.
    Not that people of the same mind shouldn't organize, but people of the same minds can rule without fighting for power over others.

    The cure I believe, is to focus on the truth of self and nothing else. Don't add any extra programs to your list, don't add any more of other people's ideas, perspectives, issues, situations- stick to your own plans and cure your own situations and naturally when you overcome your situations others that you network with can benefit from your methods.

    With this type of reasoning laid out, who can cure our problems? Naturally those who have already overcome them. Who can change the problem of Black Men going to prison? Black Men who haven't gone to prison and Black Men who have gone to prison and have beat the system. Who can change the issues of Black Women in America? Black Women who have changed it and are changing it. But those who sit in the backgrounds speculating without doing might actually be the ones derailing the movement.

    You are a Better President already if you have successfully created a method of overcoming a problem that millions of us face.
     
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    This was an excellent topic! :great:

    All of us should give this some serious thought.

    I'm gonna have to "marinate" on this myself.

    I agree with you on your points here....But, for those of us who feel so strongly about Presidential decisions, we all should imagine "walking a mile" in his shoes.
     
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    Who would desire to be in charge of the most corrupt war profiting white supremist based corporatocracy, ever known, since the 40s?
     
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    So, for YOU, the answers must be:

    1. No, you wouldn't be a better President.

    and

    2. You don't have a "proposal" at all, anyway.
     
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    Oh if that was the question any body could have been better then Bush
     
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    Ankhur, what are your thoughts on this....


     
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    And to b honest what would any one have to propose ?

    1. Not give corporate criminals, an additional trillion on top of the Bush TARP bailout

    2. Employ the single payer system and get rid of HMOs
    3. Transfer senselss war dollars to national health care

    4. Give mortgage and foreclosure amnesty

    5 Return Glass Steagall

    6 Abolish GATT and NAFTA; which alone would create over a million Black jobs and 2 million white, bringing corporations an manufacturing back to the nation

    7 Make the importation of heroin and cocaine into national borders a National Security ish, and close major banks lauunderig drug money

    8 End the real etate allocation system o\f state funds that give more money to white schools and give little to innercity schools

    9 Return music, art, home economics, and all shop classes to the high schools and add to all science high schools, courses in alternative wind solar and geothermal energy

    10 Open the closed secret files on Kennedy

    11 Open the closed secret files on Dr King

    12 Get all troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan

    13 Put Bush and Cheney o trial, first here then at an international ar crimes court

    14 ABOLISH HAITI'S DEBT and remove tariffs that prevent Haitian farmers from competing with US imports

    15 End US exports of food that impoverish other nations but instead work to remove the tarrriffs on self sufficiecy imposed by the IMF an World Bank

    16 Abolish all corporate lobbying

    17 Abolish the Federal Reserve

    18 Return the Gold Standard

    19 with 1/10 of present military allocations, create a WPA, as FDR did

    20 Abolish AFRICOM

    21 apoint cabinet members that have the peoples concerns instead of the corpoate concerns

    22 make GM food labeling mandatory, whle putting an end to it, and a etun to heiloom seeds, and end food iradiation

    23 Tighter regulations on how chickens hogs, ducks, cows and lambs are treated on farms and nd force feeding and hormonization, as well as waste disposal
    technology development of the same to reduce carbon emmissions

    24 No private public partnerships

    25 No Cap and trade an make the corprations pay for their pollution and not the public.

    26 Initiate monthly town hall meetings via cable and web, throgh out the 50 states

    27 Reverse the decision by the supreme court to put congress up for sale

    28 Unconditional pardon for Mumia Abu Jamal

    29 Creatan inercity poll and task force to by pass the so called Black leadership and hear the concerns of the Black community directly, and the same for all other ethnic communities

    30 End renditions

    31 Dismantle each and every statute in the patriot act that infringes upon constitutional freedoms

    32 Make it easy for anyone with a 5 year job record and no violations to purchase any fire arm they can afford

    33 Convert present military funds as well as closing bases, and using those funds to end hunger or at least put a dent in it

    34 Tell Communist China , who ever heard of Taiwan?
    never heard of it.

    35 Create one year limits for all elected officials, and not to exceed 2 years.

    36 Naturalized voter registration for all citizens born in the US

    37 Siez control of the depatmentalization process and obtain full presidential access to all Black Projects, and operations by NSA and NRO,
    and create a tight audit of expenditures
     
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