Black People : Without Single payer System , and public option where is the Reform in health Care?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The increases folks are seeing now in their insurance costs are simply extortion and visits, hospital stays and prescriptions were not extravagantly expensive before the HMOs, so now rather then get rid of then and return to the system we had before,
    the concept is still rejected although 75% of the nation wants it.
    As far as public option in any real and tangible sense, don't hold your breath;

    Published on Thursday, March 4, 2010 by The Progressive
    Obama’s Reprehensible Rhetoric Against Single-Payer
    by Matthew Rothschild

    When Barack Obama gave his “this is it” speech on health care reform on March 3, he once again swerved out of his way to hit advocates of a single-payer system.

    He said: “On one end of the spectrum, there are some who have suggested scrapping our system of private insurance and replacing it with government-run health care. Though many other countries have such a system, in America it would be neither practical nor realistic.”

    You can argue about whether it is realistic politically but there should be no question whatsoever that it’s practical in the sense of being functional. It works well in other countries, including Canada, and there is no reason it can’t work well here. Canada’s health outcomes, and the health outcomes of every other advanced industrial country with government-run systems, are superior to ours.

    Maybe Obama was using the “neither, nor” construction to try to strengthen his weak and illogical opposition to single-payer and even to a robust public option like Medicare for all who want it—and 65 percent of the American people do want that kind of a public option.

    small excerpt of full article;
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/04-4
     
  2. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Published on Thursday, March 4, 2010 by CommonDreams.org
    Health Reform Truth Oozes Out: And It Is Not Just
    by Donna Smith

    Even the staging of the hand-picked doctors in starched white coats could not keep the truth of the healthcare reform process from oozing out of President Obama during Wednesday's press event. Not just...
    "Everything there is to say about healthcare has been said and just about everyone has said it," Obama said. "So now is the time to make a decision about how to finally reform healthcare so that it works, not just for the insurance companies, but for America's families and businesses." Not just...

    So, who is listed first and foremost as the beneficiaries of this reform? The insurance companies. Ah, let the truth roll down. It will set you free. Not just...

    It is an aside, an afterthought, if any of the provisions of the current reform bills actually relieve the concerns patients have about being the widgets of the healthcare business and not human beings with a basic human right to care when sick. The first priority has been to make things better for those in power in this system - those who control the profits. Not just...

    full article;
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  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Now the public option is dead!

    NY Times Reporter Confirms Obama Made Deal to Kill Public Option
    Posted: March 16, 2010 12:57 PM

    On Monday, Ed Shultz interviewed New York Times Washington reporter David Kirkpatrick on his MSNBC TV show, and Kirkpatrick confirmed the existence of the deal. Shultz quoted Chip Kahn, chief lobbyist for the for-profit hospital industry on Kahn's confidence that the White House would honor the no public option deal, and Kirkpatrick responded:

    "That's a lobbyist for the hospital industry and he's talking about the hospital industry's specific deal with the White House and the Senate Finance Committee and, yeah, I think the hospital industry's got a deal here. There really were only two deals, meaning quid pro quo handshake deals on both sides, one with the hospitals and the other with the drug industry. And I think what you're interested in is that in the background of these deals was the presumption, shared on behalf of the lobbyists on the one side and the White House on the other, that the public option was not going to be in the final product."

    Kirkpatrick also acknowledged that White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina had confirmed the existence of the deal to him.

    This should be big news. Even while President Obama was saying that he thought a public option was a good idea and encouraging supporters to believe his healthcare plan would include one, he had promised for-profit hospital lobbyists that there would be no public option in the final bill.

    small excerpt form full article;
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html
     
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    Chinelo Third Eye Is Always Open MEMBER

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    I figured this was watered down.....:whip:
     
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    $$RICH$$ Lyon King Admin. STAFF

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    There is yet a lot of work to do with this health care thing !
     
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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I don't intend on giving Obama a free pass any more than you are...

    :fyi:
     
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