Chief Elder Osiris : Willie Lynch is an urban myth

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    FROM: Iskandar <unite_n_resist@>

    Willie Lynch is an urban myth, a product of neo-colonialism. Willie Lynch is a black bourgeois attempt to mystify the social disintegration of Black society due to Imperialism. However, Willie Lynch is a static theory; society is dynamic and active. That alone is enuf to discredit the theory in the critically perceptive mind.

    Social disintegration is an ongoing process; witness Irak. The white power system has progressed thru a number of phases to maintain the oppression of African people in America, er, the Homeland. Early on, slave patrols, the whip and the gun kept Africans on the plantation picking cotton or whatever slaves had to do. Following that, the sheriff and the chain gang guaranteed there would be no black freedom during the sharecropping/ segregation era. Post-segregation, post-integration, post-industrial, we find ourselves controlled by a brainwashing education system, a drug economy and a war on drugs-on-Africans, unemployment, underemployment and a compounding health crisis. Racist laws, racist law enforcement and the world’s largest prison system form the primary means of control for a million Black men in lockdown. Of course, a whole system of laws supports each era of capitalist domination.

    Without US meddling and destabilization, the Black community - indeed, the international African community - would begin the process of healing and reconstruction of our society.

    Who in their right mind thinks that some lame speech supposedly delivered about 300 years ago really controls blacks today, when there is no defining speech in history nowhere in history that served as an effective tool of social control for that long. Many blacks may still subscribe to the Curse of Ham, blue-eyed ******* Jesus, good hair vs bad, “fair” skin vs ugly, etc. They were asleep during the Sixties. They ducked under the bed when Rap Brown sed “Burn, Baby Burn!” and Mukassa Ricks had all the Dirty South throwing their fists in the air screaming “BLACK POWER!!” Black Power still gonna get you, even as Farrakhan, Jesse, and Sharpton keep ramming Willie Lynch down our throats. We knew better then, and we kno even better today.

    A little while back, S.E. Anderson distributed a post wherein Manu Ampin dismantled the Willie Lynch speech [see it below].

    Now, Jelani Cobb’s analysis has enhanced the demystification process [also see below]. I am glad he took on Willie Lynch and hope that genuine scholarship continues to break down these urban legends.
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    Sistas & Brothas,
    This is an excellent critique/expose of the Willie Lynch "talk." I have made it clear to folks anytime they raise this letter/talk that it's a fabrication. Brotha Prof. Manu Ampim has joined several other Black scholars and activists who have exposed the myths of the Wilie Lyncht 1712 talk by advancing a thoroly detailed refutation of its authenticity.

    I first saw this "document" in a poor xerox form from a "Liberation Library" copy dated (I think) 1970. I might still have the paper buried in a thousand other old papers I have. When I first saw it, it also struck me as a contemporary piece and inaccurate historically.

    We must struggle to exorcise this "urban legend" approach to our history and I'm glad to see this important contribution by our Brotha Prof. Manu Ampim being circulated.

    In Struggle,

    Sam Anderson
    author: The Black Holocaust for Beginners (writers & readers)

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    by Prof. Manu Ampim

    Since 1995 there has been much attention given to a speech claimed to be delivered by a “William Lynch” in 1712. This speech has been promoted widely throughout African American and Black British circles. It is re-printed on numerous websites, discussed in chat rooms, forwarded as a “did you know” email to friends and family members, assigned as required readings in college and high school courses, promoted at conferences, and there are several books published with the title of “Willie Lynch.”[1] In addition, new terminology called the “Willie Lynch Syndrome” has been devised to explain the psychological problems and the disunity among Black people.

    Further, it is naively assumed by a large number of Willie Lynch believers that this single and isolated speech, allegedly given almost 300 years ago, completely explains the internal problems and divisions within the African American community. They assume that the “Willie Lynch Syndrome” explains Black disunity and the psychological trauma of slavery. While some have questioned and even dismissed this speech from the outset, it is fair to say that most African Americans who are aware of the speech have not questioned its authenticity, and assume it to be a legitimate and very crucial historical document which explains what has happened to African Americans.

    However, when we examine the details of the “Willie Lynch Speech” and its assumed influence, then it becomes clear that the belief in its authenticity and widespread adoption during the slavery era is nothing more than a modern myth. In this brief examination, I will show that the only known “William Lynch” was born three decades after the alleged speech, that the only known “William Lynch” did not own a plantation in the West Indies, that the “speech” was not mentioned by anyone in the 18th or 19th centuries, and that the “speech” itself clearly indicates that it was composed in the late 20th century.


    The “Willie Lynch Speech” is not mentioned by any 18th or 19th century slavemasters or anti-slavery activists. There is a large body of written materials from the slavery era, yet there is not one reference to a William Lynch speech given in 1712. This is very curious because both free and enslaved African Americans wrote and spoke about the tactics and practices of white slavemasters. Frederick Douglass, Nat Turner, Olaudah Equino, David Walker, Maria Stewart, Martin Delaney, Henry Highland Garnet, Richard Allen, Absolom Jones, Frances Harper, William Wells Brown, and Robert Purvis were African Americans who initiated various efforts to rise up against the slave system, yet none cited the alleged Lynch speech. Also, there is also not a single reference to the Lynch speech by any white abolitionists, including John Brown, William Lloyd Garrison, and Wendell Phillips. Similarly, there has been no evidence found of slavemasters or pro-slavery advocates referring to (not to mention utilizing) the specific divide and rule information given in the Lynch speech.

    Likewise, none of the most credible historians on the enslavement of African Americans have ever mentioned the Lynch speech in any of their writings. A reference to the Lynch speech and its alleged divide and rule tactics are completely missing in the works of Benjamin Quarles, John Hope Franklin, John Henrik Clarke, William E.B. Du Bois, Herbert Aptheker, Kenneth Stampp, John Blassingame, Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, Darlene Clark-Hine, and Lerone Bennett. These authors have studied the details and dynamics of Black social life and relations during slavery, as well as the “machinery of control” by the slavemasters, yet none made a single reference to a Lynch speech.

    Since the Willie Lynch speech was not mentioned by any slavemasters, pro-slavery advocates, abolitionists, or historians studying the slavery era, the question of course is when did it appear?


    The first reference to the Willie Lynch speech was in a late 1993 on-line listing of sources, posted by Anne Taylor, who was then the reference librarian at the University of Missouri at St. Louis (UMSL).[2] She posted ten sources to the UMSL library database and the Lynch speech was the last item in the listing. Taylor in her 1995 email exchanges with the late Dr. William Piersen (Professor of History, Fisk University) and others interested in the origin of the Lynch speech indicated that she keep the source from where she received the speech anonymous upon request, because he was unable to establish the authenticity of the document. On October 31, 2005, Taylor wrote:

    “Enough butt-covering, now it’s time to talk about where I got it. The publisher who gave me this [speech] wanted to remain anonymous…because he couldn’t trace it, either, and until now I’ve honored his wishes. It was printed in a local, widely-distributed, free publication called The St. Louis Black Pages, 9th anniversary edition, 1994*, page 8.”

    [*Taylor notes: “At risk of talking down to you, it’s not unusual for printed materials to be ‘post-dated’ – the 1994 edition came out in 1993].[3]

    The Lynch speech was distributed in the Black community in 1993 and 1994, and in fact I came across it during this time period, but as an historian trained in Africana Studies and primary research I never took it serious. I simply read it and put it in a file somewhere.

    However, the Lynch speech was popularized at the Million Man March (held in Washington, DC) on October 16, 1995, when it was referred to by Min. Louis Farrakhan. He stated:

    We, as a people who have been fractured, divided and destroyed because of our division, now must move toward a perfect union. Let's look at a speech, delivered by a white slave holder on the banks of the James River in 1712... Listen to what he said. He said, 'In my bag, I have a foolproof method of controlling Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you, if installed correctly, it will control the slaves for at least 300 years’…So spoke Willie Lynch 283 years ago.”

    The 1995 Million Man March was broadcast live on C-Span television and thus millions of people throughout the U.S. and the world heard about the alleged Willie Lynch speech for the first time. Now, ten years later, the speech has become extremely popular, although many historians and critical thinkers questioned this strange and unique document from the outset.

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    Full Text of the alleged Willie Lynch Speech, 1712:

    "Gentlemen, I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest methods of control of slaves.

    Ancient Rome would envy us if my program were implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish. I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of woods as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.

    I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are not only losing a valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed.

    Gentlemen, you know what your problems are: I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed correctly it will control the slaves for at least 300 hundred years [sic]. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it.

    I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences, and think about them.

    On top of my list is ‘Age’, but it is there only because it starts with an ‘A’: the second is ‘Color’ or shade, there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, status on plantation, attitude of owners, whether the slave live in the valley, on hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences. I shall give you an outline of action-but before that I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration.

    The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us.

    Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful. Thank you, gentlemen."
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    The only known “William Lynch” who could have authorized a 1712 speech in Virginia was born 30 years after the alleged speech was given. The only known “William Lynch” lived from 1742-1820 and was from Pittsylvania, Virginia. It is obvious that “William Lynch” could not have authored a document 30 years before he was born! This “William Lynch” never owned a plantation in the West Indies, and he did not own a slave plantation in Virginia.


    The Lynch speech lists a number of divide and rule tactics that were not important concerns to slaveholders in the early 1700s, and they certainly were not adopted. The anonymous writer of the Lynch speech states, “I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger.” Here is the list provided in the Lynch speech: age, color, intelligence, fine hair vs. coarse hair, tall vs. short, male vs. female.

    However, none of these “tactics” were concerns to slaveholders in the early 1700s in the West Indies or colonial America. No credible historian has indicated that any of the items on the Lynch list were a part of a divide and rule strategy in any early 18th century. These are current 20th century divisions and concerns. Here are the Lynch speech tactics versus the real divide and rule tactics that were actually used in the early 18th century:



    Age Ethnic origin & language

    Color (light vs. dark skin) African born vs. American born

    Intelligence Occupation (house vs. field slave)

    Fine hair vs. coarse hair Reward system for “good” behavior

    Tall vs. short Class status

    Male vs. female Outlawed social gatherings

    It is certain that “Willie Lynch” did not use his divide and rule tactics on his “modest plantation in the West Indies.”


    There are a number of terms in the alleged 1712 Lynch speech that are undoubtedly anachronisms (i.e. words that are out of their proper historical time period). Here are a few of the words in the speech that were not used until the 20th century:

    Lynch speech: “In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves.”

    Anachronisms: “Fool proof” and “Black” with an upper-case “B” to refer to people of African descent are of 20th century origin. Capitalizing “Black” did not become a standard from of writing until the late 1960s.

    Lynch speech: “The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years.”

    Anachronism: “Re-fueling” is a 20th century term which refers to transportation.


    * William Lynch is invited from the “West Indies” (with no specific country indicated) to give only a short eight-paragraph speech. The cost of such a trip would have been considerable, and for the invited speaker to give only general remarks would have been highly unlikely.

    * Lynch never thanked the specific host of his speech, he only thanked “the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here.” Here, he is rude and shows a lack of etiquette. Also, no specific location for the speech was stated, only that he was speaking “on the bank [sic] of the James River.”

    * Lynch claims that on his journey to give the speech he saw “a dead slave hanging from a tree.” This is highly unlikely because lynching African Americans from trees did not become common until the late 19th century.

    * Lynch claims that his method of control will work for “at least 300 hundred years [sic].” First, it has gone unnoticed that the modern writer of the “speech” wrote three hundred twice (“300 hundred years”), which makes no grammatical sense. It should be “300 years” or “three hundred years.” Second, the arbitrary choice of 300 years is interesting because it happens to conveniently bring us to the present time.

    * Lynch claims that his method of control “will work throughout the South.” This statement clearly shows the modern writer’s historical ignorance. In 1712, there was no region in the current-day U.S. identified as the “South.” The geographical region of the “South” did not become distinct until a century after the alleged speech. Before the American Revolutionary War vs. Britain (1775-1783) the 13 original U.S. colonies were all slaveholding regions, and most of these colonies were in what later became the North, not the “South.” In fact, the region with the second largest slave population during the time of the alleged William Lynch speech was the northern city of New York, where there were a significant number of slave revolts.

    * Lynch fails to give “an outline of action” for control as he promised in his speech. He only gives a “simple little list of differences” among “Black slaves.”

    * Lynch lists his differences by alphabetical order, he states: “On top of my list is ‘Age’, but it is there only because it starts with an ‘A’. “ Yet, after the first two differences (“age” and “color”), Lynch’s list is anything but alphabetical.

    * Lynch spells “color” in the American form instead of the British form (“colour”). We are led to believe that Lynch was a British slaveowner in the “West Indies,” yet he does not write in British style.

    * Lastly, the name Willie Lynch is interesting, as it may be a simple play on words: “Will Lynch,” or “Will he Lynch.” This may be a modern psychological game being played on unsuspecting believers?


    It is clear that the “Willie Lynch Speech” is a late 20th century invention because of the numerous reasons outlined in this essay. I would advance that the likely candidate for such a superficial speech is an African American male in the 20s-30s age range, who probably minored in Black Studies in college. He had a limited knowledge of 18th century America, but unfortunately he fooled many uncritical Black people.

    Some people argue that it doesn’t matter if the speech is fact or fiction, because white people did use tactics to divide us. Of course tactics were used but what advocates of this argument don’t understand is that African people will not solve our problems and address the real issues confronting us by adopting half-baked urban myths. If there are people who know that the Lynch speech is fictional, yet continue to promote it in order to “wake us up,” then we should be very suspicious of these people, who lack integrity and will openly violate trust and willingly lie to our community.

    Even if the Willie Lynch mythology were true, the speech is focused on what white slaveholders were doing, and there is no plan, program, or any agenda items for Black people to implement. It is ludicrous to give god-like powers to one white man who allegedly gave a single speech almost 300 years ago, and claim that this is the main reason why Black people have problems among ourselves today! Unfortunately, too often Black people would rather believe a simple and convenient myth, rather than spend the time studying and understanding a situation. Too many of our people want a one-page, simplified Ripley’s Believe or Not explanation of “what happened.”


    While we are distracted by the Willie Lynch urban mythology, the real issues go ignored. There are a number of authentic first-hand written accounts by enslaved Africans, who wrote specifically about the slave conditions and the slavemasters’ system of control. For example, writers such as Olaudah Equiano, Mahommah Baquaqua, and Frederick Douglass wrote penetrating accounts about the tactics of slave control.

    Frederick Douglass, for instance, wrote in his autobiography, Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass, that one of the most diabolical tactics of the American slaveholders was to force the slave workers during their six days off for the Christmas holiday to drink themselves into a drunken stupor and forget about the pain of slavery. Douglass wrote, “It was deemed a disgrace not to get drunk at Christmas; and he was regarded as lazy indeed, who had not provided himself with the necessary means, during the year, to get whiskey enough to last him through Christmas. From what I know of the effects of these holidays upon the slave, I believe them to be the most effective means in the hands of the slaveholder in keeping down the spirit of insurrection. Where the slaveholders at once to abandon this practice, I have not the slightest doubt it would lead to an immediate insurrection among the slaves…. The holidays are part and parcel of the gross fraud, wrong, and inhumanity of slavery.”[4]

    Also, many nineteenth century Black writers discussed the specific tactics of the white slaveowners and how they used Christianity to teach the enslaved Africans how to be docile and accept their slave status. The problem with African American and Black British revelry during the Christmas holidays and the blind acceptance of the master’s version of Christianity are no doubt major issues among Black people today. It is certain that both of these problems were initiated and perpetuated during slavery, and they require our immediate attention.

    Many people who embrace the Willie Lynch myth have not studied the period of slavery, and have not read the major works or first-hand documents on this issue of African American slavery. As indicated above, this fictional speech is amazingly used as required reading by some college instructors. Kenneth Stampp in his important work on slavery in the American South, The Peculiar Institution (1956), uses the historical records to outline the 5 rules for making a slave:

    1. Maintain strict discipline.
    2. Instill belief of personal inferiority.
    3. Develop awe of master’s power ( instill fear).
    4. Accept master’s standards of “good conduct.”
    5. Develop a habit of perfect dependence.[ 5]

    Primary (first-hand) research is the most effective weapon against the distortion of African history and culture. Primary research training is the best defense against urban legends and modern myths. It is now time for critical thinkers to bury the decade-old mythology of “William Lynch.”

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    1. For example, see: Lawanda Staten, How to Kill Your Willie Lynch (1997); Kashif Malik Hassan-el, The Willie Lynch Letter and the Making of a Slave (1999); Marc Sims, Willie Lynch: Why African-Americans Have So Many Issues! (2002); Alvin Morrow, Breaking the Curse of Willie Lynch (2003); and Slave Chronicles, The Willie Lynch Letter and the Destruction of Black Unity (2004).

    2. See: services/ library/blackstu dies/narrate. htm

    3. For this quote and the general Anne Taylor email exchanges regarding the authenticity of the Willie Lynch speech, see: services/ library/blackstu dies/winbail. htm

    4. Frederick Douglass, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass (1845), p. 84.

    5. Kenneth Stampp, The Peculiar Institution: Slavery in the Ante-Bellum South (1956), pp. 144-48.

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    *Prof. Manu Ampim is an Historian and Primary (first-hand) Researcher specializing in African & African American history and culture. He is also a professor of Africana Studies. He can be reached at:

    PO Box 18623, Oakland, CA (USA). Tel. 510-482-5791.
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    Willie Lynch is Dead (1712?-2003) by William Jelani Cobb

    - Hide quoted text - I long ago stopped listening to sentences that began with "The problem with black people" or ended with "and that's why black people can't get ahead now," -- which partly explains my initial disinterest in now-famous William Lynch Speech. In the few years since the speech on how to train slaves first appeared, it has been cited by countless college students, a black member of the House of Representatives and become the essential verbal footnote in barbershop analysis of what's wrong with black people. The rapper Talib Kweli laments on the song "Know That" "blacks are dyin'/how to make a slave/by Willie Lynch is still applyin'" and one professor at a mid-western university made the speech required reading for her class. Of late, the frequency of its citations seems to be increasing â€" at least three people have asked me about it in the last month.

    According to the speech's preface, Master Lynch was concerned enough with the fortunes of his slave-holding brethren in the American colonies to give a speech on the bank of the James River explaining how to keep unruly servants disunited. The old, he argued, should be pitted against the young, the dark against the light, the male against the female and so on. Such disunifying tactics "will control the slaves for at least 300 years," he guaranteed. And that, it seems, is why black people can't get ahead now. There are many problems with this document â€" not the least of which is the fact that it is absolutely fake. As a historian, I am generally skeptical of smoking guns.

    Historical work, like forensic science, is more about the painstaking aggregation of facts that lead researchers to the most likely explanation, but rarely the only one. Slavery was an incredibly complex set of social, economic and legal relations that literally boiled down to black and white. But given the variation in size of farms, number of enslaved workers, region, crops grown, law, gender-ratios, religion and local economy, it is unlikely that a single letter could explain slave policy for at least 151 years of the institution and its ramifications down to the present day.

    Considering the limited number of extant sources from 18th century, if this speech had been "discovered" it would've been the subject of incessant historical panels, scholarly articles and debates. It would literally be a career-making find. But the letter was never "discovered, " but rather it "appeared" â€" bypassing the official historical circuits and making its way via internet directly into the canon of American racial conspiratoria.

    On a more practical level, the speech is filled with references that are questionable if not completely inaccurate. Lynch makes reference to an invitation reaching him on his "modest plantation in the West Indies." While this is theoretically possible â€" the plantation system was well-established in the Caribbean by 1712 â€" most plantation owners were absentees who chose to remain in the colonizing country while the day-to-day affairs of their holdings were run by hired managers and overseers.

    But assuming that Mr. Lynch was an exception to this practice, much of the text of his "speech" is anachronistic. Lynch makes consistent reference to "slaves" â€" which again is possible, though it is far more likely people during this era would refer to persons in bondage simply as "Negroes." In the first paragraph, he promises that "Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented, " but the word "program" did not enter the English language with this connotation until 1837 â€" at the time of this speech it was used to reference a written notice for theater events. Two paragraphs later he says that he will "give an outline of action," for slave-holders; the word "out-line" had appeared only 50 years earlier and was an artistic term meaning a sketch â€" it didn't convey it's present meaning until 1759. Even more damning is his use of the terms "indoctrination" and "self-refueling" in the next sentence. The first word didn't carry it current connotation until 1832; the second didn't even enter the language until 1811 -- a century after the purported date of Lynch's speech.

    More obviously, Lynch uses the word "Black," with an upper-case "B" to describe African Americans more than two centuries before the word came to be applied as a common ethnic identifier. In popular citations, Lynch has also been â€" inexplicably â€" credited with the term "lynching" which would be odd since the speech promises to provide slave-holders with non-violent techniques that will save them the expense of killing valuable, if unruly, property. This inaccuracy points to a more basic problem in understanding American history. The violence directed at black people in America was exceptional in the regard that it was racialized and used to reinforce political and social subordination, but it was not unique. Early America was incredibly violent in general â€" stemming in part from the endemic violence in British society and partly from the violence that tends to be associated with frontier societies.

    For most of its history, lynching was a non-racial phenomenonâ€" actually it was racial in that it most often directed at white people. "Lynch law" was derived from the mob violence directed at Tories, or British loyalists, just after the American Revolution. While there is disagreement about the precise origins of the term â€" some associate it with Charles Lynch, a Revolution-era Justice-of-the- Peace who imprisoned Tories, others see it as the legacy of an armed militia founded near the Lynche River or the militia captain named Lynch who created judicial tribunals in Virginia in 1776 â€" there is no reference to the term earlier than 1768, more than half a century after the date given for the speech. Given the sparse judicial resources (judges were forced to travel from town-to-town hearing cases, which is where we get the term "judicial circuit") and the frequency of property crimes in the early republic, lynching was often seen as a form of community justice. Not until the 1880s, after the end of Reconstruction, did "lynching" become associated with African Americans; gradually the number of blacks lynched each year surpassed the number of whites until it became almost exclusively directed at black people late in the century.

    On another level, the Willie Lynch speech would seem to give a quick-and-easy explanation of the roots of our much-lamented "black disunity." You could make similar arguments about the lingering effects of a real historical document like the 1845 tract "Religious Instruction of Negroes" â€" written by a proslavery Presbyterian minister -- or the British practice of mixing different African ethnicities on slave ships in order to make communication â€" and therefore rebellion â€" more difficult. But this too is questionable â€" it presumes that whites, or any other diverse group, do not face divisive gender issues, generation gaps and class distinctions.

    Willie Lynch offers no explanation for the white pro-lifer who guns down a white abortion-provider or white-on-white domestic violence. He does not explain political conflicts among different Latino groups or crime in Asian communities. Unity is not the same as unanimity and in the end, black people are no more disunited than any other group of people â€" and a lot more united than we give ourselves credit for.

    William Jelani Cobb, Ph.D. is an Assistant Professor of History at Spelman College. He specializes in post-Civil War African American history, 20th century American politics and the history of the Cold War. He is also a critic, essayist and fiction writer whose writings on politics, the African Diaspora and contemporary African American culture have appeared in a number of national outlets. His column "Past Imperfect" appears bi-monthly on Africa
  2. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Willie Lynch is an Urban Myth

    Hoteph Beloved Sisters And Brothers:

    You know beloved, as long as Black folks act to discredit the Truth, we will never enjoy a change of condition that verify the fact that Black folks are a divisive and self degenerating and denigrating people, which is what the Willie Lynch Letter document, essay, expos'e or what you so desire to label the contents of such a literary document is implying.

    I will not accept the conveyed impression by certain Black intellectuals that is attempting to convey to Black people, concerning the Willie Lynch document, as being false and is suggesting that Black people establish an expressed behavior toward the Willie Lynch Document by implying that such document is not real, just a fantasized theory.

    Now the mere fact that those Black intellectuals are responding to the Willie Lynch Letter and has done research to disprove its authenticity, prove that there is a document that exist and have and is now being passed around as the Willie Lynch Letter, explaining and depicting the attitude and behavior of the Black people syndrome, that is what I think we need to be focusing in on, that which the willie Lynch Letter so indicate of us Black people.

    I can care less as to whether or not such a Racist by the name of Willie Lynch ever existed as the author of that letter, but I do know that there are untold numbers of White people with the Willie Lynch presented Mentality, when indicating the attitude and behavior of Black people, as we are so described in that letter floating around under the heading of Willie Lynch.

    It is not important to know when the letter was written or by whom, or to focus in on the grammatical formation of the letter or the alphabet formation in use, or whether Willie Lynch is White or is Black, whom I tend to accept as being the author of the Willie Lynch Letter, ( though I have no proof ) and had a desire to get us to take a Truthful and Realistic look at our Black selves in term of how far we have fallen from acting and behaving as a Proud unified Freedom loving people.

    The content of the willie lynch letter in term of what it is describing of the attitude, behavior, and psychotic state of Black people, and give the cause of such a Mental status black folks display in the world today, such contents that make up that willie Lynch letter, is no theory about what happen to us and the way we now behave in the world and such is the Truth which the willie Lynch Letter convey about Black people.

    So Black people should become offended when the Black so call intellectuals attempt to present to you to focus on whether or not there is an actual Willie Lynch character as being associated with the letter and the content depicted therein.

    The letter is being passed around in such a name as willie Lynch and he being presented to Black people, as being a White Man, which really is not the most important factor we should be focusing in on, regarding that document, a document that is as real as the Sun-Star, by mere fact we are here discussing it.

    Now, my question is about the content of the letter and not about the style in which it is written, are we to dismiss the content depicting the way Black folks now behave, and how acceptable we are to white people and how influential they are to Black people and is the architect of the Black Woman and Man Mind, which we display today, are we to take on the attitude as the depiction of Black people in the willie Lynch Letter, is not real and it is just a theory ?

    I am here to tell you beloved, if we ignore the Willie Lynch Letter, we seal our fate to remain the type of Negro so described in the Willie Lynch Letter, while we should be spending all of our Time to not discredit that letter content but to begin to make it out to be a lie about how we are so submissive to white people and hostile toward one another, we should become infected with a desire to be Liberated from the psychotic syndrome we now are a victim of, as we operate with such a mentality and behave as the Willie Lynch letter so describe us to be..

    Truth, you desire Truth to verify what I say about the Willie Lynch Letter is True, then,Run, Run, Run and fetch your mirror and observe the condition of the Black World and only a Willie Lynch Negro will not be disappointed at what is observed.

    Here Is Loving you

    Chief Elder
  3. roarin1

    roarin1 Banned MEMBER

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    HOTEP BaBa


    I could not agree with YOU more.
    Whether 'willy lynch' is historically

    correct chronologically or not, is
    a non-issue. The fact remains that

    only a 'guilty' conscience could command
    the kind of feverishly induced desire to

    "seek and destroy"

    by ANY so-called 'intellectual' to
    prove such an assertion wrong.

    Besides, its not the 'letter' within
    the text of willy lynch that makes it

    significant, it is the spirit of the lynch
    letter that makes it it a damnable assertion.

    I submit to YOU BaBa, that the sell-out
    spirit of uncle-tom has come to 're-visit'

    his worthless *** as witnessed by these
    elitist sell-out 'intellectuals' hell-bent

    on disproving something as monolithic as
    the willy lynch letter.

    Case in point, just because 'willy' lynch
    said it, how could he have ever been

    re-assured his 'commrades' would use it?

    Uncle Tom is still a SPINELESS m&f'er.

    Alluta Continua

  4. Sha'iyn

    Sha'iyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Why Willie?

    "Willie" is a scapegoat for the mentality of the most racist paleman TODAY. These racist people exist in SECRET societies today (KKK) and are rarely bothered. They know that a new day is quickly approaching where the train of thought will be supreme and belong to the true seed of ALLAH, GOD, Yemeyah, Yahweh, etc.

    We are waking up and starting to take back ownership of all that the universe has ordained. Not just Africans but, Americans as well. That's one of the reasons they said he "came over here" with a way to control the slaves. If he was in the West Indies "taming" all of those slaves, Why are there still intelligent people in Jamaica, etc.? The island is only 144 miles in circumfrence. The ratio vs. American slaves is not pliable.

    Propaganda and Mind Control do go hand-in-hand. They differ in that Propaganda is used to instill pride in the people on the side of the speaker/writer and fear in the hearts of the oppressed/disliked. This fear has kept us obedient for hundreds of years. Their propaganda has changed with the cycles and now we are starting to wonder. The "Lynch papers" (along with other racist doctrine) remain a reminder of the mindset of racist whites in the early 18th century. These papers need to be abolished and forgotten.

    We have forgiven white racism enough by letting them teach our children. Who in turn grow up and become doctors who heal them or maids who serve them. STILL! We are the compassionate people and we belong in our land around our strucures of compassion and beauty. Not these towers, skyscrapers, fake obellisks and such. We also do not need to leave empty-handed for assisting the forefathers of this country in so many things from art to science.

    My art teacher asked me if I was glad that slavery took place. I said, "Yes," quickly, "...because now, you've just admitted that you owe the registered descendants of slaves reparations like the Indians you pillaged, raped and robbed." I don't even care to drream about slavery not happening. And it does'nt make me mad anymore. that Hammurabi is kicking in and I want a reciept and a ticket home for a job well done.

    Willie makes us mad and resent slavery. I do not resent something that is out of my system. Stop reminding us about slavery. Just remember it and repair it. Make movies about the bright future of Africans returning home.
  5. Khasm13

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    wise words chief...
    we are definately "living proof" of these earlier tactics displayed by the slavemasters...

    sometimes staring at a book all day will blind you to the horror right in front of your eyes...

    one love
  6. Da Street So'ja

    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    where failure is not an option
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    300 years = to roughly about 2 weeks cosmic time (and that's local cosmic
    time not universal time)

    so in about 5 hours (cosmic time) the sign will come somewhere along the

    shoulders of somebody named "James"

    it's all so symmetric

    and water, earth and fire has a way of making everything equal again
  7. uplift19

    uplift19 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The full speech/document

    Just in case anyone hadn't seen it before, this is the full context of the speech I am familiar with...which goes beyond the brief comments that were looked into in the original post. I wonder if the "scholars" who refute it have considered this version...

  8. torch

    torch Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Great post Elder..

    It doesnt suprise me that is a fake...I also questioned the authencity of the letter seeing how it didnt match up to how they spoke then..but what do you expect from these "pale faces"??

    They told our ancestors they were savages and needed to be slaughtered and inslaved to please there white gods..

    The problem indeed comes from the our own people promoting and blaming ONE thing for all of our problems in this country...just like the uncle tom "civil right" leaders that claim to speak for us..they sure as hell dont speak for me..they speak for the "MASSA":book:
  9. Da Street So'ja

    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    thank you
  10. Sami_RaMaati

    Sami_RaMaati Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Willie Lynch letter is probably a myth, but that misses the main point, namely that there are effective tools of mind control that have been used on Black people through the institutions of euroman: educational (via the school system), cultural (via the entertainment industry), religious (via the church), economic (last hired, first fired), and political.

    Furthermore, there is a book entitled "Advice Among Masters" edited by a professor of history (James Breeden) that contains hundreds of excerpts from southern publications in the decades leading up to the civil war that discuss how to manage slaves.

    Last but not least, there is no need to attack intellectuals who maintain that the Willie Lynch letter per se is a myth. I happen to know that Professor Manu Ampim (who wrote one of the above articles) works tirelessly on behalf of Black liberation. He has dedicated his entire life to debunking the false claims of white racist egyptologists who claim that the so-called ancient Egyptians were white. Check out his website at

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