Black Spirituality Religion : Will Science Disprove GOD?

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  1. Kemetstry

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    Will science someday rule out the possibility of God?
    One man believes so, and says most of the mysterious can already be explained

    By Natalie Wolchover
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    Will Science Someday Rule Out the Possibility of God? | Physics …
    www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2907-science-religion-god-physics.html

    Over the past few centuries, science can be said to have gradually chipped away at the traditional grounds for believing in God. Much of what once seemed mysterious — the existence of humanity, the life-bearing perfection of Earth, the workings of the universe — can now be explained by biology, astronomy, physics and other domains of science.
    Although cosmic mysteries remain, Sean Carroll, a theoretical cosmologist at the California Institute of Technology, says there's good reason to think science will ultimately arrive at a complete understanding of the universe that leaves no grounds for God whatsoever.
    Carroll argues that God's sphere of influence has shrunk drastically in modern times, as physics and cosmology have expanded in their ability to explain the origin and evolution of the universe. "As we learn more about the universe, there's less and less need to look outside it for help," he told Life's Little Mysteries.
    He thinks the sphere of supernatural influence will eventually shrink to nil. But could science really eventually explain everything?

    Beginning of timeGobs of evidence have been collected in favor of the Big Bang model of cosmology, or the notion that the universe expanded from a hot, infinitely dense state to its current cooler, more expansive state over the course of 13.7 billion years. Cosmologists can model what happened from 10^-43 seconds after the Big Bang until now, but the split-second before that remains murky. Some theologians have tried to equate the moment of the Big Bang with the description of the creation of the world found in the Bible and other religious texts; they argue that something — i.e., God — must have initiated the explosive event.
    However, in Carroll's opinion, progress in cosmology will eventually eliminate any perceived need for a Big Bang trigger-puller.
    As he explained in a recent article in the "Blackwell Companion to Science and Christianity" (Wiley-Blackwell, 2012), a foremost goal of modern physics is to formulate a working theory that describes the entire universe, from subatomic to astronomical scales, within a single framework. Such a theory, called "quantum gravity," will necessarily account for what happened at the moment of the Big Bang.

    Some versions of quantum gravity theory that have been proposed by cosmologists predict that the Big Bang, rather than being the starting point of time, was just "a transitional stage in an eternal universe," in Carroll's words. For example, one model holds that the universe acts like a balloon that inflates and deflates over and over under its own steam. If, in fact, time had no beginning, this shuts the book on Genesis. [ Big Bang Was Actually a Phase Change, New Theory Says ]
    Other versions of quantum gravity theory currently being explored by cosmologists predict that time did start at the Big Bang. But these versions of events don't cast a role for God either. Not only do they describe the evolution of the universe since the Big Bang, but they also account for how time was able to get under way in the first place. As such, these quantum gravity theories still constitute complete, self-contained descriptions of the history of the universe. "Nothing in the fact that there is a first moment of time, in other words, necessitates that an external something is required to bring the universe about at that moment," Carroll wrote.
    Another way to put it is that contemporary physics theories, though still under development and awaiting future experimental testing, are turning out to be capable of explaining why Big Bangs occur, without the need for a supernatural jumpstart. As Alex Filippenko, an astrophysicist at the University of California, Berkeley, said in a conference talk earlier this year, "The Big Bang could've occurred as a result of just the laws of physics being there. With the laws of physics, you can get universes."


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    The so called sciences may some day prove the powers/forces of creation some call God. Not the other.
     
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    Science has already proven that the religious myths about God are not, can not, be literally true.

    But, once you expand your definition of God from the dumbed down religious constraints to metaphysical aspects such as Omnipresence and Omniscience [the knowledge of everything] it becomes clear that man has not even scratched the surface of Knowledge of the Divine.

    It is probably unrealistic to think man will ever know everything. The more mortals have discovered, the more they have found out there is yet to know. There is no reason to think that trend will end.

    Compared to what homo habilus knew, homo sapiens have learned a lot. But, homo sapiens have only been around for, maybe, 400,000 years. The Earth, by contrast, came into being 4.5 billion years ago. But, the Big Bang occurred 10 billion more years prior to that. It is not unrealistic to consider that thousands of forms of life sprang into existence, vastly exceeded our knowledge, and then ceased to exist, 100s of millions of years before we first stood up on our two hind legs.

    Right now, man does not know enough about what he does not know to know how much more there is that he could know. Science, up until recently, has focused on knowing just the material aspects of just this universe. There is much about the immaterial that many scientists still consider as taboo as Christians consider the Bhagavad Gita to be maranatha anathema. And, beyond that, there still is left to know of what some are now saying are a near infinite number of M-verses besides our universe, each with their own set of time and space dimensions not necessarily the same as ours.
     
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    Please show where science has done this? Please note I am a biochemist






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    I say no...

    I also say that science and the Bible conflict with each other and that religion in general is incompatible with scientific realities. This is a fact,the flood is a mathematical impossibility. You being a Biochemist should know something about the survival of sea life in terms of fresh and salt water.The Bible is full of unscientific statements, and the two (science and religion) should stay separate.



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    peace

    Don't european so called 'scientists' already think they are 'god'?

    Haven't they manipulated the weather and the conditions on earth numerous times under the guise of scientific studies?
     
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    On the contrary, science may confirm it :).
     
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    Uhmmmm..You left out your explanation of saying how?


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    I have none :).

    Better savior this moment. This is RARE!! :)

    It could turn out that the origins of humanity was some advanced civilization's "petri dish experiment" ....
     
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