Black People : Will it Affect "YOUR" Street?

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  1. Metaverse

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    The Bull is on Wall Street but not on your street?

    If you live in America the bull is everywhere. It's only a matter of time. A Brotha on a local radio station joked "If they gave black folks 700 billion dollars and called it reparations we'd jump start the economy in a heartbeat!" Sad but true. Ironically the fact that we give all our money away might be some of the reason this machine called America is still functioning. Imagine if we hoarded our money up like most rich folks?

    Capitalism is a balancing act, it has never been a very good one between production and finance. Almost the same act between credit and debt, you either have good credit or you're in debt. But by this time next year "good credit" might be a thing of the past for most of America. Such a system was flawed from the start. Give a Teenager a credit card with $1,200 and tax them for the rest of their lives with unbelievable interest rates for spending money that was given to them? It's un-natural. And everything against nature is doomed to fail eventually.

    But yes all of this does affect our streets. Already on our streets the crime rate has jumped, just from the news of economic hardship- not the reality of it, but the actual news of it. Millions have been in economic hardship just after 9-11, but now since their is a public acknowledgment of a recession....some will use that as a way to inspire crime.

    The worse case scenario? 75% of America is ran by small businesses. If small businesses can't get loans from banks they can't employ. If banks can't get loans from other banks they can't invest to they can give out loans. No job, living off unemployment, people cut back on spending, those who aren't necessary to their weekly-monthly budgets are cut out. Retails shops go out of business, malls close down. The engine may never stop completely but it will slow down enough that it becomes obvious. In hard time those with nothing to lose will commit to foolishness in order to survive.

    Now there are those who see all of this as prophecy. And I will agree that much of what the Hon. Elijah Muhammad warned has been brewing up all around us. "Fall of America" is an interesting read at least.
    http://www.noineworleans.org/messenger_books/foa/index.html

    If what our Prophets have said are true, "Change" is indeed upon us. My theory is that, when we turn our minds away from the "bull" and focus on the truth - which is "Our Ancestors went through far worse than this- and sang through it" then we might understand we already have our solutions. Beit spiritual Ancestral power or common sense.

    As a few of the Gods and Goddesses here at Destee have already agreed, money is meaningless. Even Jay-Z and Dupri said "Money ain't a thang." What gives it meaning are the ideas and energy we feed it. It's all written notes on paper, reminders of so-called value. The true worth and value is in our ability to do with our resources, to create and produce, our problem solving skills and our inventiveness. This is basically why we use money for the begin with, to sway others to give us what they've produced or to loan us their skillbased time.

    The best job security is knowing you can create something no one else can.
    Without that you are replaceable, and as time goes on more and more people will be laid off from jobs.

    This not an extinction level event. Not yet. But it is a chance for us to reassess our allegiance. We've replaced family with our careers, with overttime and the earning of extra dollars. We've set aside healthy relationships to pursue fledgling dreams. We've educated ourselves to the highest degree for higher degrees only to line the pockets of wealthy and old White Men who now flee the country in their private jets. We've refused to organize as a people in order to rebuild our lost doctrines, but we've been organized enough in order to produce an America- streets paved with gold. We still believe in the American dream even though we ourselves have never lived it or dreamt it.

    Perhaps it is because our streets have already been affected- why this is all happening now. If it is indeed a Prophecy then it is also a Plan.
    The Suns can channel whatever they wish into existence. Focus on absolute power, true power- whatever that might be for you- and the unbelievable will emerge from out of the darkness.
     
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    Wonderful and Encouraging Read Brother MetaSaience ... Thanks for Sharing! :toast:

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    "Fall of America" The Whore of Babylon
    The Whore of Babylon is one of several Christian allegorical figures of supreme evil mentioned in the Book of Revelation in the Bible. The Whore is associated with the Antichrist and the Beast of Revelation by connection with an equally allegorical kingdom.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon

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    Maybe Babylon has/is falling. What does that mean for us still here? If we individually harness our power, can we change the outcome on a collective level. And if we cannot 'alter' the prophecy, then how long will we have to wait before the tide turns in our favor. I may be dissallusioned but I feel this breakdown of the market is good for us who prob haven't had much at stake within in it anyway. Maybe, since the game has changed, others now have a chance to play.
     
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    And thank you for allowing me to share Queen Mother Destee.
    Sis. Lite16 it's funny that you should mention that. Some people in the Black business communities believe that now as big businesses crumble they are in the perfect position to pick up the pieces. Basically what most companies will start doing is reducing their cost, looking for more affordable way to do business. If you are within the business or knowledge of cost reduction, the era belongs to you. Heck- our people drink out of glass jars. For the overwhelming majority of Black working poor- cost reduction is our middle name. We know how to survive "rock bottom" because we haven't gotten to the top of the rock yet.

    This means that if you haven't started your own business yet you need to look into it. If you though the internet was populated before there are still millions of businesses and people in America that haven't been introduced to the net believe it or not. Yet this will be the major distribution point for businesses in the future. We will see less and less store fronts and more business operating from home or warehouse using their website as the new storefront between product and consumer. Amazon.com and Ebay have raked in billions because those infrastructures work.

    If you are a web designer with data base skills, this day is yours. There are hundreds of small businesses around you that will need your services when they start reducing their cost of doing business. It's cheaper for them to downsize the storefront, lay off employees- turn off the utilities - and move those operations to a storage facility/warehouse and sell their products online.

    Assets protection Gurus, those in the field of effective investments, the day is definitely yours. Because more and more people will be looking for new places to keep their money, new investment plans that actually work. A quick tip is that we have to learn how to invest money in things that matter most to us within our community. Invest money with your local farmers, and local business people. Invest with your small business people and help them get those supplies they need and earn a return on the profits. If you know someone struggling to start up a business help them find other small investors that would chip in $50-$100 to help with their inventory or startup costs. This is the type of sound investments we have to return too. Return to you local credit unions and banks.

    If you are already networking and importing and exporting to Africa or other places around the work via the internet- this day is still yours. But what needs to happen is that all Africans in America need to start building "economic bridges" back to Africa. Stop saying I can't work with those Nigerians, Kenyans, Ghanaians, West Africans, South Africans etc., because they think they are better than Blacks in America, or smarter etc. That doesn't stop us from working with white folks. Africa has money in case we didn't realize it. Why is China there? We need to get our head from up CNN's behind and realize that Africa is still one of the richest continents if not "the" richest on the globe. Remember even Nigeria is 3 times larger in wealth and power than Black America.

    If you are a small business person in America and you aren't considering doing business with your Brothers and Sisters in Africa- you better start considering it. Oh yes the global economy is suffering too- as in dropping from a high place into a lower place. There is still billions of dollars and opportunities flying all over the place.

    If you can see opportunity where there is trouble, the day will always be yours.
     
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    my street was affected long ago

    so it's been a struggle str8 from the womb

    but this is all a set-up to make the global currency anyway

    don't you see the foreign markets falling apart

    yes ya'll change is coming but remember the terms of change are polar

    and of course i DO realize you guys want change FOR THE BETTER

    as well as i do
     
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    No time to wait. SEIZE THE TIME and take advantage of every opportunity to become independent and self-sufficient as possible. STOP SPENDING as much as possible and save.

    I will just call it what it is. A cultural and economic boycott of corporate America. Cut those credit cards and discontinue as much consumer spending as possible. Less you drive and use public transportation the more gasoline prices will tumpble due to falling demand. Thats the major thing needed to destroy or bring about the "fall of America". Decreased demand. Forget the banks. Get you a home safe. Stock up garage with water and dried/canned goods. I can go weeks on nuts, water, energy bars with some fresh fruit and canned veggies low in sodium.

    Some of us want this economy to fall others have a stake in it. This is the divide that will remain untl the end. Those who profit from Babylon and those who chant it down.

    Did not think I would see Dow in 8700 (make that 8500 since I started typing this!) territory until AFTER Obama became POTUS. There is so mch carnage going on now that no president will have a fix for this. America is done.

    Peace
     
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    Great picture and article.

    Looks like the group of seven nations. Are in serious trouble.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia

    http://www.shrewsbury-ma.gov/school...ALSTUDIES/Mesopotamia/ancient_mesopotamia.htm

    Most of Mesopotamia was located in the present day country of Iraq.

    I Notice the seven seals, seven kings, and seven serpents in your picture. Iraq ( Mesopotamia ) is the garden of Eden..

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    http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/meso/meso.htm

    Mesopotamia - the cradle of civilization The land between the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, it is said, hosted the legendary Garden of Eden - if it existed anywhere.


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    Bush has pissed off God! The ( earth ) world has had enough. It is throwing up evil!

    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer...ns/g/group_of_seven/index.html?inline=nyt-org
     
  9. Omowale Jabali

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    Foreign markets falling apart?

    Thats not what I see.

    http://finance.aol.com/quotes/hang-seng/hsix/fx1

    I will tell you why. China's industries are already mostly nationalized or "socialized". The US is borrwoing money FROM China. As the Chinese also re-invest in their own markets and estrict credits, credit restriction become tighter here because they have less borrowing power.

    In other words China has this country by the "balls" and is tightening its grip, financially. The Chinese quickly leanred how neo-colonialism worked and outmaneuvered the capitalists at their own game. Finance capitalism while increasing manufacturing potential and capability. Notice how white folks now talking about when did america become "socialist"? The Chinese are pushing this ountry into the point of if it is to remain competitive then it must transform because "capitalism" is hemmoraging as it goes from monopoly capitalism to state capitalism in transition to state socialism with a handfull of finance monopolists.

    GM is collapsing as is a major part of the auto industry? Why? While McCain and Obama argue over energy independence the real issue affecting the consumer marketplace is one of energy EFFICIENCY. Quite simple. Chinese and other Asian automakers are making more efficient automobiles.

    I been saying for a long time now to watch that HSIX. China's markets have been getting rocked but it has far more growth potential that the US financial sectors.

    I dont know about bears and bulls but this "jacka.." that symbolized the Democratic Party is essentially a det horse that the Repubs are trying to beat but they themselves are some memory-deficient elephants farting dust recalling war stories and thinking back to the cowboy era of "Maverick".

    Meanwhile the Dow down another 8579 and my only concern today is where I will cash a long awaited payroll check!
     
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    THE MARKET BEEN GREAT FOR ME, FOR STARTER THE MARKET BEEN INFLATED FOR YEARS AND IT IS JUST BEING ADJUSTED TO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE. PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING ALOT OF MONEY, THEY JUST DOWNSELLING AND PUTTING IN PUTS.PEOPLE STILL BUYING STUFF FROM WHAT I SEE AND SPENDING MONEY.


    DARKSIDE MAGICK---- "YOU CREATE YOUR ENVIROMENT".
     
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