Chief Elder Osiris : WILL IS DIVINE, CHOICE IS PROFANE

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

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    WILL IS DIVINE, CHOICE IS PROFANE


    BY Chief Elder


    Divine Will, like Divine Truth, there is only One, regardless of how many we attempt to manufacture to satisfy the Choices we Make, but unlike Will, Choice can and does be influenced, meaning that 99.5% of the Choices we make is influenced by someone and something that has the power of influence in our Lives, so when we believe we be making choices for our Lives, we really be making the choice of someone other than ourself for our Lives.

    It is Mentally dangerous to allow someone to gain the power of influence over your Life, so that choice be not balance with your Will, and then, when you allow your life to be guided and encouraged by your senses, the option of Will is not to be in action on such a Profane level where sense Trump Thought.

    Black People today do not allow Thought be the action that Guide us, and without Thought, the act to know and understand is not at work, because the Mind is overshadowed by the influence of the Senses and someone other that your Self.

    Divine Will come with a Divine Mind, and whenever we Will ourselves to Think, and to Do something profound and Divinein Life, then such action come not from being influenced but by independent Thought, because it is a Divine Thought that generate the Will to Act Divinely, an action based totally on the power of Mind Thought, and not by the influence of your senses and others Mind, rather than your own.

    I must share that whether you accept the Divine Truth or not, the Victim is never the Divine Truth, because there is no chance of getting the Divine Truth confused with Profanity parading as Truth, Why? because there is only ONE Universal Divine Truth and we may perform surgery on the Divine Truth in hope to create our own profane Truth, but when it is all said and done, the Divine Truth stand alone, unblemished, untainted, Unremoved, and not to be used to confuse, because there is only One Divine Truth, and when we come, having our frail Vanity, Ego, Envy, and Jealousy, they serving as our life choices majorettes and the Senses serving as Profane Truth Drum Major, that beloved, is a recipe for Life disaster, because Life is endowed with Two Divine Qualities, they being the Divine Mind and Will, which take its guidance from the Divine Mind, so when Mankind is not operating on such a Divine Mental Level, then the result become the Attitude and Behavior you now observe of the World today, and more specific, the Black World.

    The Black World live now a life under habitual Influence, no longer do we Think any more, so it become common, when we hear Black people saying such sense led things, as Divine Truth cause confusion and is Divisive, we may hear us say that there is no ONE Divine Truth, but we be referring to the Profane Truth, which is Myriads of that kind of Profanity, parading around as Truth, indicating that we all are given to make choices and have the ability of the power of Will.

    So, allow me to ask you Black People a question, does a Fool have the ability to make choices absent of influence and does a Fool have the power of Will to make the Fool Wisely Intelligent ?

    All Right, allow me to ask you this question, do Black People make Wise Choices and do Black People have the Will to be Free and Independent on this Planet ?

    Yet the Foolish amongst us Black People, say that it is the Divine Truth that is being Divisive and causing Confusing among Black People and only A fool would accept such a Foolish accusation, as being a creditable claim, against the Divine Truth, when in fact it is the Divine Truth that come without influence, having the Will to be known and not believed, because such a profane level of belief, carry not the requirement to Think, and without the Power of Thought, you end up with a Profane Truth and counterfeit choices, such being of the influence of those other than your self.

    Therefore the Power of WILL, over power and out distance the profaneness of Choice, guided not by the power of the Divine Mind, but by the influential processes of your Senses.

    Anything that can influence you away from Thinking, in favor of making a Choice to believe, and the Target of that action is GOD, Universe, and the Black self, that beloved, happen to be the source that cause Divisiveness and Confusion among Black People and did cause the Fall of a Black Nation.

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    What is will? Is it a desire, wish, choice, natural tendency, determination, and/or an expression of command?

    If these things make up the probablity of what will is, I say "yes" even a fool
    have the ability to make choices absent of outside influences. "yes" a fool can have the power of will to make him/her Wisely Intelligent. If Divine thought is the process of one thinking internally for his/her self, a fool can
    learn to tap into this power and no longer be tainted by the judgement of
    others who branded him/her a fool.

    Not all Black People make wise choices 100% of the time because not all the time are they exercising their own thoughts. Most Black people desire to be Free and Independent on this planet, but their thought processing may be
    influenced from the outside. When the will becomes exhausted, it isn't really the will that has been exhausted, rather the exercising of those outside thoughts?

    Divine Truth is not divisive. It's just "is" what it "is". However, there will be human being minds shouting outside influenced "Divine Truths" from mountain tops and dividing the masses amongst them, all the while not having the full understanding of what it is they speak of.

    So yes, even a fool can speak Divine Truths and establish the will to seek independance and freedom, but a Divine Thinker/mind will internalize it for all that it means and apply it accordingly to reach his/her goals.

    There is but one Divine Truth, but there are many things that can cause a foolish mind to become a Divine Thinker.

    Well thats my understanding or lack there of.

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  3. Chief Elder Osiris

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    :thinking :

    What is will? Is it a desire, wish, choice, natural tendency, determination, and/or an expression of command?

    If these things make up the probablity of what will is, I say "yes" even a fool
    have the ability to make choices absent of outside influences. "yes" a fool can have the power of will to make him/her Wisely Intelligent. If Divine thought is the process of one thinking internally for his/her self, a fool can
    learn to tap into this power and no longer be tainted by the judgement of
    others who branded him/her a fool.
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    osiris

    Will is a Determination driven by the power of indepemdemt profound Thought emerging with a uncomprising desire to do and accomplish the Target of your Desire, absent of the need of influence from other than the Divine interest that is driving your Will to be successful in the action you have taken to accomplish your Goal.

    Therefore if a Fool meet the requirement of having the Will to be productive in the endevour taken to satisfy the life action that demonstrate the will to act responsiably in the action taken in Life, then such Action would reveal the action of a well Mental Balance Wise Divine Intelligent Being and not a Fool.

    A fool make no well organize wise thought-out plan for the life to live, that is why the Fool as is, a Fool.

    A Profane Mind does not beget a Profound Divine Mind, one may be put juxtapose to the other, but the action is diametrical to each action.

    A Fool is a Fool because there is the lack of ability to act Wisely serious, in Life attitude and behavior being expressed, that is what give cause for one to be considered to be a Fool. Beloved.
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    Not all Black People make wise choices 100% of the time because not all the time are they exercising their own thoughts. Most Black people desire to be Free and Independent on this planet, but their thought processing may be
    influenced from the outside. When the will becomes exhausted, it isn't really the will that has been exhausted, rather the exercising of those outside thoughts?
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    osiris

    Correct, not all Black People make wise Choices, I venture to say 99.5% of us Black People do not, again, 99.5 % of the Time Black People are expressing other than ourselves Belief of thought.

    Beloved I am dure you have heard of the saying, where there is a Will, there is a Way, well I say you will make a way to satisfy that Will, so no, all Black People do not desire to be Free and we can not hide behind of the excuse of our Mental Weakness, once before today maybe, but not today, because the Divine Truth has come and Black Folks are fighting it every step it take toward us.

    You are correct, Divine Will never become exhausted, ony a Mind influenced by irrational Thoughts suffer such action, by the way beloved, such a Mind is what we Black Folks have adopted and so I ask of you, observe the evidence of the result that come from functioning under somebody Mind other than your own Divine Mind, I ask you to observe the attitude and behavior of a Black Divided Nation, one that has been made to become many separated branches and have no desire to be Free. Why do I make such an observation about Black People ?
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    Divine Truth is not divisive. It's just "is" what it "is". However, there will be human being minds shouting outside influenced "Divine Truths" from mountain tops and dividing the masses amongst them, all the while not having the full understanding of what it is they speak of.
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    osiris
    Beloved, it is Factually impossible for the Divine Truth Action to be Divisive, now the Wanting Human Being Mind fit that action without question.

    Let me say this to you beloved, because you now make a charge that is serious concerning the Divine Information that now has come to Black People.

    Only Lies and acts of deception are qualified to be Divisive, that is the Purpose for such Behavior to be, there is no behavior expressed Divinely, with a mission to confuse and Divide those that have inherit the Core of our Divinity.

    It is the Devious Wanting one, that cry out with false accusation concerning the action of the Divine Truth, making eroneous claim that can not be Reasonably and Logically Substantuated.

    We Black People must learn to be slow to speak ill concerning the Divine Truth, when Divine Wise Information is not there to verify such a Mental display.
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    So yes, even a fool can speak Divine Truths and establish the will to seek independance and freedom, but a Divine Thinker/mind will internalize it for all that it means and apply it accordingly to reach his/her goals.
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    osiris

    Beloved, I ask you to go and ponder over that which you have said here, that tend to up-lift Foolish action, claiming such a behavior does not hinder from acting Divine. I do not identify with the energy I get from you in the immediate above statement and that is all I will say to that.
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    There is but one Divine Truth, but there are many things that can cause a foolish mind to become a Divine Thinker.
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    osiris

    Beloved, a Foolish Mind is not capable of Thinking Divine, it is impossible to be both at the same Time, Go and Think about it and lead with profound Rational Thought and not with irrational Emotions.
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    Well thats my understanding or lack there of.
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    osiris

    Beloved, if it was not you, I would have Thank you for your reply and left it at that.

    I bow to you
    Here Is Loving You

    Hoteph
    Osiris
    Chief Elder

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    Thank you for honoring me with your time and response. :bowdown:
    lol it was that bad, huh?

    Hmmm....I see what you're saying here. But is there a difference from a fool and a person who does foolish things? I ask because, I can recall when I was younger, people saying things like "that boy is a fool or the girl is a fool" to see those same people go on and make great plans for their life.

    At that time, it appeared they lacked the ability to make wise decisions, but that had changed. I guess that would mean, those who judged the ability of those people, were doing so from outside influences?

    Yes, I've heard the saying. :thinking:"Will makes a way to satisfy that Will." Ahhhhh! Yeah, you're right, there is no excuse. Why are we fighting it? Are we that afraid?

    Because Will makes a way to satisfy that Will and we still arent free. :eek:hmy:

    Thats what I was trying to say. " there will be human being minds shouting outside influenced "Divine Truths" from mountain tops and dividing the masses amongst them, all the while not having the full understanding of what it is they speak of."

    Let me make sure I'm understanding you also. Information which is divisive is never Divine Truth? It is lies and deception? Such behaviors has no association with Divine Truth? To even associate such behaviors with
    Divine Truth is blasphemy?

    Please correct me if I'm still not understanding this correctly.

    While there may be many who make the claim of speaking Divinely, look toward the behaviors and actions. If their words can not be Reasonably
    and Logically Substantuated, "BEWARE?"

    You say we must be slow to speak ill concerning Divine Truth, but had I not
    expressed this thought, you probably wouldn't have walk me through this understanding.

    Thank you again for honoring me with your patience and understanding!
    It was a very informative and enlightening discourse! :bowdown:

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  5. Chief Elder Osiris

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    QUOTE=PurpleMoons]Thank you for honoring me with your time and response. :bowdown:
    lol it was that bad, huh?
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    osiris

    No, not bad, just a misunderstanding, which we all become a victim of sometime, beloved.
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    Hmmm....I see what you're saying here. But is there a difference from a fool and a person who does foolish things? I ask because, I can recall when I was younger, people saying things like "that boy is a fool or the girl is a fool" to see those same people go on and make great plans for their life.
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    Hmmm is a sign of you Thinking, that is very Good.

    Yes, there is a difference from being a Fool and one doing " Foolish things" and is aware of that action being portrayed, but a Fool is that which do foolish things and is not aware of what is being done and take that foolish action to be that of reasonable accepted action, even to the level of believing such Foolish action is really profound intelligence in action, now it is that Mentality that is most dangerious to those who seriously are in search for the Divine Truth, remember that Divine Truth does not attempt to trick the scale of Divine Reality Of Justice, its relationship with the Scale of Divine Reality of Justice, is a Harmonous, Orderly and Balance one, so must be all of those whose strive to attain our Divinity again, in this Life.

    Yes, I remember, you see our Elders were just expressing what they considered our attitude and behavior to be reflecting to them, they saw nothing injurous to come from that action which they were observing coming from us, sometime they deemed it to be worthy for only laughter and sometome of dissatfaction, because sometime they did and did not see something of Mental and/or no value to come from such action, but to be entertain and/or anoyed, then to, we could become so outlandish unreasonable until it took on the description of acting unreasonable Foolish, meaning action of thought that has no foundation of profound Reason and Logic to justify such an attitude and behavior on display.

    A Fool is consistently unaware that such action is out of the circle of Divine Thought, meaning a Fool Belief is without Harmony, Order, and Balance, full of irrational emotion, envy, ill gotten vainty, lies, deception and jealousy, because being Divine is not a priority to the Human Being Mind , because majority of Time, such Mental foolish action, is dominated by the senses and others power of influence.

    Now remember, there is a different in a Fool and what we refer to as a serious Crazy attitude and behavior.
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    At that time, it appeared they lacked the ability to make wise decisions, but that had changed. I guess that would mean, those who judged the ability of those people, were doing so from outside influences?
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    Not only from outside influence, but soley by what they had come to accept as Normal behavior, meaning, not acting and behaving contrary to what they had been taught to be extremely out of the line of Social accepted Normalcy, now that is not to be taken to mean that all Social accepted Norms are within the Bound of being Divine, because it is not.
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    Yes, I've heard the saying. :thinking:"Will makes a way to satisfy that Will." Ahhhhh! Yeah, you're right, there is no excuse. Why are we fighting it? Are we that afraid?
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    There you are, remember, We Are What We Think.
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    Because Will makes a way to satisfy that Will and we still arent free. :eek:hmy:
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    Exactly, but you see, by us not being Free, it serve as a sign that we do not have the will to be Free, because when that Will come, then like that saying say, the use of any Means to gain our Freedom is Neccessary, so I Ask, Do Black People Demonstrate a Will To Be Free ?
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    Thats what I was trying to say. " there will be human being minds shouting outside influenced "Divine Truths" from mountain tops and dividing the masses amongst them, all the while not having the full understanding of what it is they speak of."
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    osiris

    No beloved, if the Human Being Mind is controlling our Mental action, then what is coming from that Mind, and is causing disruption, having the ability to maintain our Division, then that Human Being mind express not that which is Divine, and even by claiming such Mental action to be Divine, the result that come from that Mental action, demonstrate and reveal that it is the Human Being Profane Mind at work and not the Divine mind.

    The Human Being Mind may Cry out Divine, Divine, as a strategy for deception, but if the information is promoting and causing Disharmony, Disorder, and an Imbalance, then that is evidence that the Cry is a Profane one, claiming to be what it is not, Divine Information.
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    Let me make sure I'm understanding you also. Information which is divisive is never Divine Truth? It is lies and deception? Such behaviors has no association with Divine Truth? To even associate such behaviors with
    Divine Truth is blasphemy?
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    THERE YOU GO, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT IS DIVINELY CORRECT.
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    Please correct me if I'm still not understanding this correctly.

    While there may be many who make the claim of speaking Divinely, look toward the behaviors and actions. If their words can not be Reasonably
    and Logically Substantuated, "BEWARE?"
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    DIVINELY CORRECT.
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    You say we must be slow to speak ill concerning Divine Truth, but had I not
    expressed this thought, you probably wouldn't have walk me through this understanding.
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    OSIRIS

    PLEASE NOT YELLING:

    I DID NOT SAY, DO NOT SPEAK ILL CONCERNING THE DIVINE TRUTH, be slow to do so, BECAUSE I KNOW, WHEN WE DO NOT kNOW THE DIVINE TRUTH, WE ALLOW OUR HUMAN BEING MIND TO CAUSE US TO BELIEVE ANYTHING WE ARE TOLD, SO WE MUST ALWAYS BEWARE IN OUR SEARCH TO BECOME REAQUAINTED WITH THE DIVINE TRUTH AND BE NOT PRESUMPTOUS ABOUT THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT, IN THIS CASE, THE UNSHAKEABLE CONSTANt AND UNWAVERING OF THE DIVINE TRUTH.
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    Thank you again for honoring me with your patience and understanding!
    It was a very informative and enlightening discourse! :bowdown:
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    To You Beloved goddess, I do bow with all humility

    Here Is Loving You

    Hoteph
    Osiris
    Chief Elder

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    Thank you much Chief Elder!

    Your wisdom humbles my soul!:love:

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