Law Forum : will Baltimore die?

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A common talking point about African Americans’ views on
crime has been debunked.



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"....In his new book, Locking Up Our Own, Yale University Law School Professor James Forman Jr.
points out that in national surveys conducted over the past 40 years, African Americans have consistently described the criminal justice system as too lenient"



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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/03/a-common-talking-point-about-black-views-on-crime-has-been-debunked/?utm_term=.4e06603adfdf
 

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The Black Middle Class Is Leaving Its Brothers And Sisters Behind
Your own achievement is not enough.


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"....The question is not who’s to blame, but rather what do we – middle-class African Americans ― do about it? What IS enough? In my view, it is an active re-integration of our people that should be the focus of the African American middle class. My contention is that such work must continue and should be bolstered by a grand return to densely populated urban settings where an influx of middle class incomes from black and brown citizens would help stabilize some communities...."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/much-is-required_us_5908a07ee4b0bb2d0871ff81
 

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This is a brilliant idea that is being put into practice. The images you see are of my old stomping ground...Old North STL..., this is 14th St Mall, and I lived on 20th St. I use to go to 14th St mall to buy my supplies. The image below is what it looked like then and, it was a no go area for Whites as well as suburbanite AA's.


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Below is what 14th St in Old North looks like today, and the last time I looked at the demographics it was 30% White and 70% AA.


Now, I'm inflicted with a suspicious mind, I'll explain.


When I lived in Old North it was crime ridden and, those AA's that could afford to move out migrated to places like Jennings, Ferguson, Florissant and Hazelwood. (following Whites IMHO.)


Fast-forward two decades Whites flip flopped and moved back to the city i.e., Old North. Now, the question remains ... did middle class AA's from the aforementioned locations follow Whites back to Old North?.


It also needs to be noted that when Whites started moving back to Old North there was a sudden resurgence of police presence...was this because there was a sudden influx of tax$? whereby cops get paid instead of being laid off when I lived in Old North?.



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The article points out that an influx of AA income would only help "some AA communities" . The problems that I faced in Old North was that I believed the criminals ruled. To cut a long story short the criminals met their fate and my part of Old North became deserted and , the property developers moved in.

I feel West Baltimore is going down that same road. It begs the question though - what will happen when those criminal are released. Well IMHO they will end up out in the suburbs and, those AA's that deserted the city will meet those AA's that they fled from.
 

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My contention is that such work must continue and should be bolstered by a grand return to densely populated urban settings where an influx of middle class incomes from black and brown citizens would help stabilize some communities...."

Oh really? And just how many people are going to participate in this pipe dream? I've never understood this mentality of scapegoating, playing the victimization and entitlement card based on the poor personal decision making of individuals. So, a guy (or woman) who stayed in school, worked hard for good grades, went to college, worked their way up the chain to receive a decent position and a nice yearly salary -somehow, owes the indolent Negroes back in da hood? Somehow, he must accept the moral obligation to move himself, his wife and children back into the belly of the beast in order to prove -he be down wit the brothers! Really? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ok.....
 

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My contention is that such work must continue and should be bolstered by a grand return to densely populated urban settings where an influx of middle class incomes from black and brown citizens would help stabilize some communities...."

Oh really? And just how many people are going to participate in this pipe dream? I've never understood this mentality of scapegoating, playing the victimization and entitlement card based on the poor personal decision making of individuals. So, a guy (or woman) who stayed in school, worked hard for good grades, went to college, worked their way up the chain to receive a decent position and a nice yearly salary -somehow, owes the indolent Negroes back in da hood? Somehow, he must accept the moral obligation to move himself, his wife and children back into the belly of the beast in order to prove -he be down wit the brothers! Really? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ok.....


You're not following the thread, Black Cypher. At its most basic level it's about property investment. I lived in the US in the 70's so I witnessed the first group of AA's moving to North County STL...they were professionals and business owners, I'm talking about my little patch of the US here btw. Back then those new homes out in the county were brilliant, remember the Jefferson's "Movin on up"... well it was kind of like that LOL!!. What they left behind however were neighbourhoods spiralling out of control with slumlords and the like.


I didn't know it at the time but those homes out in STL county weren't built to last.



Now, getting back to my thread. AA middle classes are moving back to the city however, it's for economic reasons as opposed to love for their brother man and, I don't blame them for that, none of my damned business. I did say that I find this article a tad suspect.



You seem to place emphasis on education, ok fine. Well further education is not for everyone...some people just want a job and/or at least the prospect of work when they leave high school. Well our jobs were shipped over seas remember and, all those factory buildings in our inner cities are now loft apartments.



BTW cool the f/k out, I like your post... gives me something to think about instead of the same ole baloney LOL!!!
 

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St. Louis struggles to maintain $17 million Washington Avenue streetscape.

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ST. LOUIS • Washington Avenue wasn’t supposed to look like this.


More than a decade ago, the city pumped about $17 million in state and federal tax dollars into renovating and beautifying the downtown street hugged by warehouses. The complicated face-lift was a nod to the street’s history as the centre of the city’s garment and fashion industry.


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I use to work in the old garment district on Washington Ave STL. Look at it now.

Truth is our respective Countries have become service based....now couple that with further education is not for everyone and we have a recipe for disaster, FACT.
 
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Let's move to Moss Side, Manchester






Same thing is happening in my community. Black educated Brits that were born and raised in Sth Manchester
got out after they graduated from Uni and, paraded it like a badge of honour i.e., I fought my way out the ghetto.


NOW they are returning along with the Whites that called us ALL animals, now these very same Muppets have become emboldened are living next door to us and this, because of the heightened police presence in Moss-Side. I couldn't take the humiliation so I moved the f/k out and now live in a Jewish enclave, fresh horizon's.

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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/sep/07/moss-side-manchester-property-roundup
 

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