Haiti : Why won't Bush defend democracy in Haiti?

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  1. diakonos

    diakonos Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Another Haitian president is being challenged by a rebel band of street thugs and former soldiers. This time they threaten the rule of Haiti’s first democratically elected president -- Jean-Bertrand Aristide -- and not a puppet leader installed by the United States. But while the Bush administration seeks to impose a democratic government half a world away in Iraq, it is reluctant to defend a duly elected one on its doorsteps in Haiti.

    Why? Because Aristide is a leftist -- which is to say that he is not a blind adherent to capitalism, the mother’s milk of our democratic system.

    Bill Gray (who was President Clinton’s special adviser to Haiti) said of the Bush administration’s handling of the Haitian situation:
    http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/usdemocracy
     
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    What do you think?

    Diakonos, welcome and thank you for this extremely important topic. Tell me, is there oil in Haiti or any other type of natural resource that can be exploited? What do you think the reasons are why Bush or the U.S. for that matter, never attempt to help Haitians? When has the U.S. ever granted Haitians political asylum? Why is this happening in Haiti and could the U.S. be playing a role in instigating this civil/political unrest in order to eventually get its way?

    I'm asking these questions because I really don't know the answers. What do you think?

    Peace, :spinstar:
     
  3. diakonos

    diakonos Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Peace NNQueen,

    Here is the answer to your first question. In terms of tangible resources, Haiti has nothing that the U.S. needs. That is the leading reason why Iraqi freedom is more important to the Bush administration than Haitian freedom. As a nation, Haiti is poverty-stricken. Now, for your last question.

    Haiti is currently at the mercy of embargos that have been levied against it by the U.S and other countries. As a result of Haiti’s history of political unrest and mismanagement of foreign aid, all of its foreign aid has been suspended. All of this drama started with the dynamic, dictating duo, Francois “Papa Doc” Duvalier, and his son Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier. Under their dictatorship, they managed to squander millions of dollars of Haiti’s foreign aid money (most of which was supplied by the U.S.) As a result, economic conditions got real bad, and Baby Doc was eventually kicked out of power and had to flee to France (where he currently lives today). After about six years of military rule, Jean Bertrand Aristide was elected to office as President only to be ousted by a violent coup one year later. The killing of thousands of civilians, and the deterioration of human rights led the OAS to declare a commercial embargo. I want you to keep in mind that the U.S. still continued to support Haiti by shipping oil to its country. The U.S. also led a UN forces to restore Aristide back to power in 1994. However, Aristide’s 2000 presidential victory was disputed by the opposing party, creating a lot of controversy and leading the U.S. to suspend all foreign aid to Haiti – the poorest country in the Western hemisphere. That reeks of hypocrisy considering what Bush pulled in Florida to get in office.

    At any rate, what they currently have in Haiti is president who is powerless to repair and improve the infrastructure of his country because he has no resources. This has given his opposition (the rebel forces) the opportunity to exploit the fears of the people, and use it as a means to over throw the government just like it did in 1991. Except this go around, the U.S. doesn’t want to get involved. Instead, Bush is urging the “international community” to get involved.

    Did America play a hand in instigating Haiti’s civil unrest? Well, even when “Papa Doc” and “Baby Doc” were running Haiti’s economy into the ground and squandering their foreign aid, the U.S. continued to send them money. Furthermore, after Aristide was ousted by the coup d’etat in 91, it was the U.S. that basically restored him back to power back in 94. I would be curious to hear what you think about all of this.
     
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    So this is how it plays out. Aristide flees the country. Boniface Alexandre, chief justice of the Haitian Supreme Court, is sworn in as interim head of state until presidential elections can be held. Bush sends troops to Haiti to stabilize the situation.

    Aristide (in a broadcast referring to those who overthrew him) said:
    Guy Philippe (Rebel leader) said:
    Bush said:
    John Kerry (with Senator John Edwards in agreement) said:
    My prayers are with the people of Haiti. <><
     
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    We must remember that 20,000 Americans are in Haiti...what are so many Americans doing there? The answer lies in the fact that over 90% of all the cocaine that is shipped out of Columbia and other countries in South America comes through Port-au-Prince, Haiti...the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere (what a cover!). This is why the large contingent of Americans are there...and have always been there...to see that all the cocaine gets here safely...

    Papa Doc, Baby Doc and Aristide protected these Americans...gave them special privileges and all that...while the indigenous people of the land are living like dogs...which is why so many have died and risk their lives everyday trying to get here on those make-shift boats and rafts. I wouldn't be surprised if Aristide is assassinated (vis-a-vis the CIA)...he knows too much...
     
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    On Monday, African-American activist Randall Robinson said Aristide had called him on a smuggled cell phone and told him that he did not leave office voluntarily. Robinson said Aristide told him he was "abducted" by U.S. soldiers in "full battle gear" early Sunday and was being held "incommunicado" in the Central African Republic...

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/03/01/haiti.revolt/index.html

    Haiti is the lead story on all the networks. Something is about to happen...
     
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    Outrageous, but not unheard of. Haiti is very much like African nations, who's presidents are handpicked by their former/neo-colonizers (and forcibly removed by coups financed by the same). Until Haiti can get a leader with no US or French ties, the country will continue to be in turmoil.
     
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    Haiti by way of Cuba

    Wonder what Fidel Castro is thinking about all of this! Hmmmm....

    Is it harzardous to sleep with the enemy?

    I wonder...
     
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    No doubt about that! Haiti is also a victim of rape by the french. The french received reparations when they were kicked out of Haiti during the revolution. Haiti had the pay the slavers money. This devistated the economic system in Haiti. When Aristide asked for reparations. france and amerikkka said "how dare he".

    White people want to say things like "remember the Alamo", "never forget" but when we demand reparations for our haulocaust they want by gones to be by gones. What racist hypocrits!

    Haiti is an important nation to us for several reasons:

    Firstly, it has a history that is shows true self-determination. Haiti offered to take us Afrakans in amerikkka when lincoln didn't want us anymore. Haitians fought in the so-called revolution war. Haiti still has many who practice our tradition spiritual system of voodum, many who came from the Nigerian, Benin area of AFrica. Haiti represents Black power to white people, and they will never let her rise. Haiti is located in a stratigic area in which if amerikkka gets control of her along with Venezuala and other countries in this hemisphere it can be a much bigger threat to Cuba, who amerikkka hates.

    Randall Robinson has a brilliant synopsis of Haiti's role in this hemisphere in his book "Quitting America".

    Aristide brought hope to the Haitians at first, unfortunately, I think he tried to emulate amerikkka by developing a capitalistic system in Haiti. For instance his wife who is amerkkkan born, had a cell phone business in Haiti in which her business was the only business. She had no political ties and as far as it has been reported by my Haitian friends she was a true amerikkkan. Not one to buck the racist countries of amerikkka and france.

    That was his first mistake.

    Secondly, he should have thought about another system for Haiti. He should have called Castro over and learned all the things that he is doing right for Cuba (not that he is perfect) and told the u.s. "see ya". That probably would have got him killed but at least he would have died as a hero to the Haitian people, like Toussaint and the ancestors.

    I saw Maxine Waters the other day who indicated she was with Aristide before and during all of his problems, but it was too late to help him. The u.s. and france wanted him out and gave arms and support to the opposition. She said bush never wanted him in office and had not intentions of giving Haiti the $800,000,000 dollars airmarked for Haiti as we speak. She also indicated those who opposed Aristide were former criminals, drug dealers, coup members from the first infraction.

    So the list goes on on what is happening to Haiti. Haitians is hated by europe and amerikkka because they are a strong willed Black Afrakan people whose ancestors took no stuff and now their children can quite possibly rise and show all of the carribean and Afrakans all over the world what a mighty race of Afrakans can do once they rise again. They are afraid of Haiti plain and simple.

    I pray that God and the ancestors will help Haiti to find herself, her inner strength to rise and we should all do everything in our power to help her.
     
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    To put in plain and simple. Bush won't defend Democracy in Haiti because the Haitian community in this country and elsewhere is not Organized and mobilized to make him do so. This is a state of affairs that applies to all black communities in the western hemisphere.
     
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