Black Parenting : Why Whupping Your Kids Won’t Save Black America

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    The origins of whupping Black children are sinister: beating the barbarity out of black children is a trusted tool in the well-stocked arsenal of white supremacy.
    (Content warning: discussion of child abuse)

    Interrogating the most controversial and taboo aspects of black culture in the name of radical love is kind of my thing. It’s also assistant professor of multimedia journalism and journalist Stacey Patton’s thing. Which is why I readily accepted the offer to read and, as best I can, review her new book, Spare the Kids: Why Whupping Children Won’t Save Black America — a 247-page distillation of her painful sojourn to find the intellectual and emotional foundation of corporal punishment in black America.

    But — that’s not the only reason I wanted to read it. Let me set the context.

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    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/black-whupping-review-stacey-pattons-spare-kids

    Why Whupping Your Kids Won't Save Black America

    The origin of whuppings are something more sinister: beating the barbarity out of black children is a trusted tool in the arsenal of white supremacy.
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    Let the police discipline our kids. They will only hit them with a club, taser them or just shoot them.
    Sounds better than a parent whooping them.
     
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    I believe parents or people who want to abuse a child is going to do just that. With or without whoopings.
    I do support a parents right to discipline their child, including spankings.
    There was a time when our parents did beat their kids using the slave owners methods.
    One of my uncles would hang his boys from the basement pipes naked and beat them. Wasn't against the law then. My own Dad(RIP Dad) would tie my older sister and brothers to the pipes under the sink and beat them.
    I would cry and run to my mother(RIP Mom) while they were being beat. I had never received a wooping from my Dad. Mama said he would never whoop me. She eventually got him to stop. They were straight off the sharecropper farm and these whoopings seemed normal.
    I spanked my son because he responded to spanking with better behaviour. Having him stand in the corner would accomplish nothing for my child.
    In ATL there are these groups of young Black youth on a crime wave of car jacking, home invasions, and holding people up on the streets in broad daylight and darkness. These kids are 13, 14, and younger.
    Now the parents of these undisplined children are called bad parents. Why?
    These young boys and girls need their butts spanked.
    Either we discipline our kids or the police will.
     
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    30 years later.
    My older sister went on to college and got a Masters in sociology. She was a director of MOCSA (Metropolitan Organization to counter sexual assault).
    She had a local 30 min TV program on Sat mornings.
    Watching her program one Sat, and the topic is abuse. Near the end of her show she confesses "I was abused as a child" and she described the beatings. SHOCKED :eek1:!
    I immediately drove to my mothers house. I knew she would be broken hearing her daughter describe her abuse. Which she didn't consider abuse during those days.
    When I got to her house she was crying. The phone didn't stop ringing. I could only hug her tight. There was not much to say. My sister had told her truth. I was angry with her a couple days for putting or family business on local television. That was the beginning of her healing, and my understanding what those beatings did to her.
    She convinced Mother to go to counseling with her.

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    I can renenber being "spanked" about 3 times in my childhood. And, to this day, I believe I was innocent. Growing up my Mother often weighed around 100 lbs., So it didn't it never hurt. My Dad never "spanked" us at all.It was a big deal to Mom, so we would muster up fake tears so she would stop.

    Have you ever heard of "Flailing"? My Grandmother would "flail" us. She would take us in a room, close the door. And, hit a table with a belt. So those outside the room imagined that the one inside was getting torn up.

    I talked to many parenrts about spankings, whupings, time outs. I learned alot..My yougen Sister never did any of those things to her daughter.. Yet her child is about to get her Masters from UCLA. She has alway done well, behaived,and never needed whupping. I paterned after her. And, I took Parenting Classes, too.
     
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    I spanked my son twice. Once when he was 2 and he tried to run into traffic, I spanked his hand. And the one time at 6, he decided to write on the computers and walls, which he had never before. I cried so much afterward;

    I was not completely against whuppings. I reserved the right to decide if they were needed, He's grown now amd i didn't need to whip him. In retospecr I only should have whpped him for running into traffic,

    Now my nephew,,,,, He puzzles me. They beat him, knock him upside the head, etc. He is past the point of being whipped. I believe that have topped out on whppings. He is willing to take the consequences.

    And I wonder if they could have raised him without whuppings. What would be have been like,
     
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    One thing that helped me tremendousy, when my son was young, was to bend down in face, hold his face in my hands, make eye contact and very sternly speak to him, maybe raise my voice.

    When he got older, just take his electronics...cell phone, 'TV. gaming systems, computer, etc. I often threatened to whip him, if he did so and so. But, he always obeyed.

    Maybe some children required beatings and some don't. But, I believe there are better, ways to discipline children. That have more effect, are long lasting, and do not humiliate them. Remember they are not animals, they are not slaves. Our goals are effective communication. JMO
     
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    When I was nine I was what was known as a 'milk boy' - the job entailed placing two bottles of milk on the door steps of every house on my street....my street had four blocks, this job was from 6am - 7am Mon-Fri. I was also a newsboy - this job entailed either delivering newspapers door-to-door from 7am - 8am; or stood on a certain corner selling newspapers from 8am - 8:30am - Mon- Fri. After work I would then make my way to school being mindful not to be tardy otherwise I would be physically punished by a Nun or a Priest.

    I was doing my door-to-door paper round one morning and, like every morning I had to deliver on the street of this lad was bullying me. To cut a long story short the bully tried to get a free newspaper for his Dad and, I then 'allegedly' attacked him and, smacked him in the face with a bottle of milk.

    Now this was the STORY that was banded about and, I took a serious whipping from my Dad (RIP) because he forewarned what would happen if me, my Brothers and Sister ever picked up a weapon to win a fight, my Dad would point to his knuckles and say these are your weapons.

    For my sins I ended up at Moss-Side champ camp. To my advantage no one in my neighbourhood ever messed with me due to the STORY the bully concocted...LOL.

    What actually happened was that I instinctually reached for the bottle of milk because this lad was twice my size - I then made a round house move and the bully ran into the bottle.
     
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    I dread to think how I would of ended up if I didn't have a Father figure to put me in my place.

    With hindsight I doubt my Mum (RIP) would have been able to handle me, I say that because when ever we were naughty my mum would always
    say 'you just wait until your dad gets home'.
     
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    I should have said. NO ONE in my neighbourhood (BACK THEN) snitched. The police were never called and, the lad that I hit lost his sight in one eye.
     
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