Black People Politics : WHY WE SHOULD ALWAYS VOTE

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    Indiana...Pence's state, right?
     
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    :11100:right.....
     
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    For sure NNQ, we as a race should vote but I will not excoriate any Black person who elects to exercise their right not to vote irregardless who who decided to give their life for us to make that decision, once we isolate those of us that use that right then we are no better then "The Other man". I tend to think the Global Elite has always been in existence. One thing I've learned of late is some of the events of late that we view with skepticism and suspicion when explanations seemed just too far fetched to believe have been planned decades ago. Sometimes events are planned by individuals, groups, organizations or cultures knowing full well that they won't be alive to see them come to fruition but maybe the continuity of mankind is important to them. maybe their purpose could be something more sinister. That took a long time for my head to wrap itself around such a concept until I realized just last year I sat down with one of my cousins and her daughter, one of my nieces and planned her dream for higher education with her three top picks (Actually I steered her there) NYU, Columbia and Vassar. She's 14, her mom is __ and i'm __ so I know "I" won't be around to share her possible reading of her admission letter and mom will be lucky to be alive to applaud her during her possible graduation. At first that possibility saddened me but now I understand how some events that occur without any sense of purpose, rhyme or reason were well planned, nurtured then executed when times, mindsets, constructs and goals were very different. I guess it's a legacy thing. So with that having been said we all know 9/11 was definitely not a conspiracy but an unfortunate event that was exploited by the existing powers that be. Global warming may another issue altogether that might possibly have been planned over several lifetimes exploiting ever changing progressive technology as one of the many possible options to population control.
     
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    None of us are traitors because you choose not to vote and believing it's important to vote out of respect for our ancestors who some died for the right to vote is not lame, in my humble opinion. Some of us are offended by those notions. It's like you know nothing about the civil rights movement. Your opinion is dead wrong

    Okay, all of us know the American and now Global "systems" are rigged against us--Black people. Proof of that has been stated a gazillion times here at Destee in hundreds of threads. Many of you understand this better than a lot of us but it doesn't take a so-called intellectual genius to figure out that Black people have a long history of struggle in this country. But,.....

    The dilemma as I see it is that some of us, knowing that, still choose to get involved in different processes believing that by doing so will eventually change the system to be more equitable and less race-based. Some of you ask, "How's that working for you?" Well, probably not as good as we'd like, true. But, why are some of us still willing to put a horse in the race, to run as hard and fast as it can, expecting different results, even though we never seem to win the race? Voting is the simplest form of action. It requires very little effort. Had Kind, Evers and others listened to this philosophy, we would still be in the worst clutches of 'Jim Crow'

    Looking at our history in America, our advances seem to move at a snails pace but some of us will call that progress while others may not see it that way. Others of us, having reached our limit of frustration, call for a different plan of action; a different collective body of Black people, with different thoughts about what the bold and more invasive actions we should take to help ourselves. Black people now generate over one trillion dollars a year. When Destee 1st started it was $400 billion. That isn't a snails pace.

    To vote, or not to vote is the question that some might think divides us in this conversation. For me, the different opinions expressed here is a beautiful and necessary thing. I have learned a lot from all of you. I believe that, in the end, no matter who votes or not, we help each other regardless by the different actions we take. It doesn't have to be one way or another, does it? Diversity among us shows how versatile and full of resolve we are as a people. Let's each do what we believe are the best things to do and maybe somewhere down the line, we will meet each other in the middle and we, all, get what we want in the end. People sat down for the right to vote. Not voting is being a traitor to our people, period!




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    Keme, you are tunnel-visioned and an angry person. You seldom see things through other people's lenses, almost never try, and you simply dismiss the opinions of others, reduce the conversations to personal insults and shut your brain down because someone disagrees with you. You are what is called a "know it all". Do you think you're the only person here who lived through the Civil Rights Movement? Do you think you're the only person that has participated in protest movements and fought against discrimination? You really should pause and step away from the keyboard sometimes to try to understand what other people are expressing, instead of pressing the "Bold" key and stating things that often mean nothing in terms of a valid counter opinion. There's so much of what you've stated here that is highly emotional and just plain irrelevant that I don't have the time to address this any other way. I hope you calm down though.
     
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    Better, I have seen the unintended consequences of their view and it wasn't pretty. Furthermore, I make no apologies for trying to continue to educate myself and actually, know, it all




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    ?traitor?

    the choice to vote or not to vote in a system that was never designed to protect the inalienable rights of black people who still live under the 3/5ths rule is in itself self evident. Eye laid out 'the facts' of how the electoral college works during a presidential election w/o any judgement, emotion, or name calling...because Eye know and understand that this type of verbal delivery is wayyy too defensive. Eye offered a solution (eg. development of a counter-political platform to balance the lopsided manner in which WE black people have been handled since 1865 (eg. and before that really). WE have never really known how this system that we ahve been forced to live inside works ------thru a lack of our own ignorance (example: the switching of parties after the civil war ended.)

    However, now that WE have the ability to read, write, understand and comprehend there is no excuse or reason for a defensive rebut. By examining 'the facts' it is self evident that WE are embarrassingly naked in a system that is fully clothed!

    Why is it so difficult to transfer OUR SOCIAL NEEDS into a political platform:

    1 that protects us from Police Brutality ....Colin Kaepernick has already began this movement
    2. that guarantees us Health and Wellness w/o vaccines ...so far no one has spearheaded a movement
    3. that guarantees us decent Housing w/o gentrification ....so far no one has spearheaded a movement
    4. that guarantees us quality education w/o the whitewash ....so far no one has spearheaded a movement
    5. that guarantees us quality nutrition w/o GMO
    6. that creates business opportunity and economic growth (eg. secure business ownership not college loan or car debt)

    Eye am sure there are more social concerns to add o this list as WE continue to suffer from lack of knowledge

    Can anyone spell political platform?
     
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    :11100:right now, right here, we need to vote democrat in november.
     
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