Black People Politics : WHY VOTING ALONE CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE ENOUGH!

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  1. ogoun

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    Honestly Willa? Stefan Molyneux!
    Are those the kind of people you get your truth from? From people that 'scientifically' have proven the Black race has a median IQ level of 85? From someone that is sure there really wasn't a genocide committed starting from the moment the European first set foot in the new world? And don't you know, slavery was just one of those unfortunate things. Forgetting of course the roll of Capitalism played in that little unfortunate thing.
    Did you even read up on his bio or listen to any of the other garbage he pukes out? Or was it just something you found to fit your narrative? I ask because all the other crap that comes out of his mouth leads any thinking person to question if one could trust him to give the correct time of day if he were asked.
    Do try and find some balance in your thinking Willa.

    Now then Willa my question was not about Cuba. Do try and stay on point.
    When was the last time Capitalism paid the cost for anything?
     
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    I actually was not paying attention to who the shock type interviewer was because of the questions for an expose`of Che, and the anti capitalism of Marxist regimes. This is real and the man who lived in it is Humberto Fontova being a witness of the atrocities of dictators which Socialist States and Marxist regimes always end up having. Cuba is just landscape. This type of man, Che, and men of these type of governments is the story. Therefore I compare contrast your desire for a government without free market Capitalism. I wonder why you don't believe people who stand in opposition to your ideology which has the same monetary root to it as Che and Castro. It results in a loss of freedom which is never peace. Capitalism is the price of freedom.
     
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    Of course you wasn't paying attention. What makes you think Molyneux would interview anyone that didn't fit his own 3 steps right of F. Buckley's brand of John Bircherism? Hint hint, don't ask him for the time day. As for Fontova it wouldn't have hurt you to look up his bio ether. Willa, do try to learn to question more and blindly follow less.
    And that brings up another point I'll once again try to get across to you, you have no idea of what ideology I espouse. I'll refer you back to the first time you 'thought' you wanted to debate me on what a great savior laissez-faire free market capitalism was. During that exchange I even provided a handy write up from a professor on how totalitarianism and fascism is not particular about what side of the left right divide it finds as a home, they are just as happy in either camp. But as you had decided that I was some raving Stalinist you declined to read any of it just as you did for anything else that I actually went to some pains to write for your edification. So instead of having any kind of, er, discussion you just plugged your ears with your fingers going lalalalalalala I can't hear you you communist bastard just as you have here in this thread. Well okay whatever Willa but here's another hint, there is something definitely wrong and something severely warped in a world view that calls the likes of Pelosi a socialist.
    Now then once again (why is there an echo in here?) this is not about Cuba.
    You do understand the question don't you Willa?

    When was the last time Capitalism paid the cost for anything?
     
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    Just so my anti-capitalist education is not lacking, what is "the likes of Pelosi?"
     
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    that is not the question
     
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    That is my question and probably others would like to hear the answer.

    If you want to be taxed out of your home, a man who makes $40,000. a year would be taxed 60%. It is stealing peoples labour from them. Do people desire more work for more poverty? Democratic Socialism is a loss of freedom, because it requires a mandatory lock step for all Americans. Loss of freedom. Democratic Socialism is another word for a field boss.

    Free education? What will the teachers be paid when the government doesn't have money for a wage because of the cost of college. Already we have public education, free for kids. People who need to can get welfare and have free health care. The nation that gives people who think, "I'm here. I'm breathing. Give me everything," will fail along with their banks.

    The young people who live in the Denmark kind of Socialism even though they still incorporate capitalism, but it can't pay the bills of the other side of their Socialist economy, are leaving and going to Capitalist nations to work and live.
     
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    Hhmmm. I guess I'll reply to this. I have never "spat" on anyone. I hit a kid right square in the back with a rock who threw rocks at me every time I walked home from school. Are you saying that you are dirt poor wearing a blue collar experiencing here on a daily basis?

    You know, this exact question came up in a humanities class in college. I was upset with my professor who was saying as if the black students were all living in the poverty of the slums. I posed the question, how many do not live in a nice home of some kind in a middle class type financially? Not one student raised his hand. Does that mean there is no ghetto? No.

    I know we all run into money problems. I know history has been cruel. But this is not history. I admit not knowing anything about the South. But I don't believe that American people can't work out a future these days. Go into business for themselves. I would go down to the business section to sell pens or apples if I had to. I know as a kid I sold newspapers on a corner. That was before smart phones. How ever I think I could still sell newspapers with a smile, still. :brushteeth:

    And beside all that I am an eternal optimist because: I Have a Friend in Jesus -- dance.

     
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    No Willa, focus. I am in no way implying such. This is not about me. My statement is addressing the Russian "Not middle Class" suffering the same fate as America's non union protected below minimum wage upper middle aged to elderly labor force who according to our generous Government in a skewed way claim applicants for financial or other necessary assistance don't make a decent wage to live a decent life but make too much money to qualify for even the basic social service programs for public assistance. That's what I was alluding to.

    This ones on me Willa.



    Enjoy.
     
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    Oh, good to know. Thanks. Santana - Loved it...made me smile.
     
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    that is not the question

    I don't see a lot of hands needing a definition on 'what the likes of Pelosi' are. In fact you seem to be the only one. But never mind it's probably the rest of the world that's wrong, not you.

    As you've been dancing around my question for 2 or 3 pages now I can surmise either you don't want to answer the question or you don't understand the question. Which is it?
    Maybe you'd at least answer that question.

    I haven't heard Greenbaum in a long time (though not long enough). Spirit in the sky......
    Aah well, the god I know don't need no cash.




    America has lost whatever little sense of reality it ever had, and finally gone off the deep end:
     
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