Black People : Why the grey area about Medicaid and Medicare White House policy?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Is this true or not?

    The Obama administration supports cuts to Medicare through the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) which is tasked with keeping per capita Medicare spending below a target level which is set to be lower than the current rate of health care cost inflation. Rather than blatantly privatizing Medicare as called for in the Ryan proposal, the President’s plan will slowly strangle Medicare leaving seniors struggling to find physicians able to care for them.

    The IPAB was actually created in the Affordable Care Act (ACA). The President’s budget proposal would increase the power of the IPAB to cut Medicare costs. Medicaid spending is also capped under the President’s budget.

    Sadly, the Peoples Budget put forth by the Congressional Progressive Caucus rubberstamps the President’s approach to cutting Medicare and Medicaid spending.

    Underneath cuts to Medicare and Medicaid is a dangerous trend of increasing privatization of health care in the U.S.

    There is a growing trend to put more of our population into private insurances and a growing privatization of our public health insurances. Over the past few years as the number of people able to afford employer sponsored health insurance has fallen, private health insurance profits have continued to grow as they move into providing insurance to or administering plans for the Medicare and Medicaid populations.


    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24521
     
  2. abstract219

    abstract219 ...standing on the shoulders of giants MEMBER

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    Brotha Ankhur

    Since the Bush years they have been cutting or turning it over to private agencies, who cut it even more. I have no doubts they are gonna cut it by the end of this year. I tell my consumer/clients to strap up, cause they gonna slice it up like Clinton's welfare reform...

    Billions every week for wars, but none for home.

    Democrats have no spine.
     
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    Democrats are not terribly different than Republicans. Medicaid/care just may disappear or be rendered virtually useless along with many other programs our people are terribly reliant upon.

    I think we can serve ourselves better by educating our people across this country and everywhere on how to eat and live to stay healthy. And keep it at until our people get the message and make the change. Most of our illnesses come from poor diet, poor intake of vitamin D, and poor lifestyle.

    Poor health causes an economic crisis for our people. Great health would cause an economic, among other things, uplifting for our people.
     
  4. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    no spine?

    No disrespect brother but I would not be presumptous to make blanket statements about the Black politicians in your nation or country where you vote,

    and here in Brooklyn we have a good cadre of sisters and brothers, some former acitivists, one a former Black Panther;

    who are all Democrats, fight against this stuff, and the foolishness from Cuomo in Albany,

    and not only have, spine and much heart, they also have vision and have not forgotten from whence they came or the people that put them in office
     
  5. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Understnadbaly so however brother, these folks are chess players, and when you see schools preventing partents from brown bagging lunches and fast food places selling whole wheat products and brown rice, it's a con to tell the community as if even the most healthy of us do not need medica care at one time or another,

    if an elder is a vegn and in perfect health and god forbid is in a car accident or a natural disater what in the world is he to do? Oor a parent who are strict vegans ad raise thier child that way but the child gets a serious illness in school, or some other complication

    what are these folks supposed to just bite the bullet and go with no medical coverage at all???

    Please take a look a the movie Sicko, by Michael Moore

    Trauma is not a preventable illness, if your child walks under a building thatb does not have proper safety codes and something falls on him or her you dont want to hear the ambulance driver ask if she had yogurt, and some almonds for breakfast or a eggmcmuffin and a donut.
     
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    Congress supports cuts to social programs. It's pretty clear that the prevailing belief in American politics is that healthcare should be left up to for-profit corporations. And if we have to cut spending, it better not be from that profitable industrial-military complex or come out the pockets of the disproportionately wealthy.
     
  7. Ankhur

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    You state a fact!!!!

    so much of the burden on medicaid and medicare is from the HMOs and not the actual care itself

    get rid of the extortion of the HMOs, let doctors handle thier own paperwork as they did in the 70s and all is well

    Thing are so bad with the HMOs and big pharma running every darn thing in the profesion that new med students are opting out of being the basic pediatricain we take our children to, but instead seek to ecome specialists that the HMOs allow acorbitant and abusive costs of service
     
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    1. No disrespect to those who are real....but likewise I wouldnt be too presumptuous to make blanket statements about the integrity of Black leaders in Brooklyn, or elsewhere.

    2. Brooklyn doesnt include all of us.

    3. As Largo stated, the Dems are just as corrupt as the Repubs.

    4. You cant overlook the cost of this war, and why the government says they have to cut Medicaid/Medicare.
     
  9. Ankhur

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    whoaa you talk about what you know I talk about what I know

    and I am refering to Eric Adams, Yvette Clark, Al Vann and Charles Barron

    who said all


    brother?

    , so where are you going with that as if you read me make some blanket statement somewhere?

    as for every one else globaly,
    since you brought it

    up how are the black polititicains doing in Europe, in the city where you reside?

    becuase we hear alot of folks across
    the Atlanic having much to say about our Black American this
    and our Black American that

    but there can be no Global Pan Africanism if one side sits in their comfort zone and dishes out criticism of others

    without sharing what they are going through,
    otherwise it doesn't sound like an offer to help or assit blacks here,
    but just some criticism.

    and as far as wars , the EU is knee deep in Africa trying to take back what they had looted and pillaged before, and that is not a blanket statement but a matter of recent history.

    And all of the above mentioned polititicans as wellas the black caucus are against the Medicad and medicare cuts and against all of the wars,

    so brother what are your polititicans that you vote for doing?

    I had no choice in being here and have no friendly or familiar faces to in some other nation to escape to
    when suff gets hot in this nation.

    The Democratic party except for some folks in Washington, and elsewhere has done very well for the place where I live and have done so for the past 50 years,
    and still I can honeltly support what the Freedom party is doing as well, becuase their chairman got his seat and made his accomplishments and improvements fro the lives of Black folks as city coucliman in East NY and Brownsville as a Democrat.
     
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    A while back when the debate first heated up about the healthcare system in America and the future projected costs it was revealed that government programs put more cents on the dollar towards actual care when compared to private insurance companies. It was also observed that medical costs even with insurance was likely to be the cause of bankruptcy.

    All the bills that were promising strong public options or nationalized healthcare died quickly.
     
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