Black People : Why is it O.k. for Blacks to be racist?

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  1. Hoperk2

    Hoperk2 Banned MEMBER

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    Just to start off I want to let you know I am not a racist.
    I'm just wandering what makes it ok for Black people to say honky this ******* that whitey whitey whitey but if a white person was to say anything even remotely racist black people riot. An example of this would be BLACK PEOPLE - BLACK CHAT and it's ok but White People White Chat would be racist.
    Another example is that blacks can say All white people walk like this or talk like that or say honkey ******* ect. on T.V. or radio but if a white person was to say something he heard a black person say his life should be destroyed?

    It just makes me sick that Blacks are supposedly so much against racism and that they are the main ones creating this divide between peoples of all colors.
    It's not just a few blacks are racist the majority is or they would do the same thing to themselves that they do to others who make racist remarks.
    People should not be judged by the color of their skin but by the character of their actions. I wish Black would quit perpetuating this racial divide. :bye:
     
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    Hoperk2, I take it you are not Black/Afrikan.

    Black people aren't racist. We can not afford to be a racist. It is the ones who have the money, power, manipulation and control over the people who can afford to be a racist and is the true racist.

    goddess IsIs
     
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    oldiesman Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    why is it ok...

    i beg to differ goddess,ANYONE can be racist heck we don't even like each other half the time[look at that yella..that black...]no we're racist we just don't like to think it's true.
     
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    I have a question.

    Why is it that proclaimed non-racists go to black people to ask "Why is it O.k. for Blacks to be racist?" Why not direct your question at racist White people?

    Is it because, a racist white person is the norm and that makes it okay?
     
  5. anAfrican

    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Let's make a little list, shall we?:

    apartheid, hiroshima/nagasaki, deforestation, acid rain, global warming, price fixing/gouging, "glass ceilings", "urban pacification" programs, political chicanery (dispersing African communities into areas already "politically controlled" by certain parties and replacing those communities with folks of a more "amenable" political persuasion), war against the biosphere, chemical warfare perped against the inner cities (drugs/alcohol), human rights violations, cops killing Africans and getting administrative leave while African children "shove" a teacher and get seven years, barrier$ to entry in fields that lock us out, Black Wallstreet, "medical advancements" that do more damage than what they were supposed to fix, oscar awards for "thug" roles when there were more very serious roles during the year, cointelpro, king alfred plan, nsc memo 46, infiltrating and destroying an organization organized to see that children got good meals before school, not fixing streets/communities until all the Africans were bought out, shoving folks off their property right across the country then off the continent and then taking over the islands ...

    It, truly, is no more "ok" for Africans to be racist than for anybody else: that remains one of the things that keeps me from the Knowledge of my Spiritual Perfection - I flat hate all them [insert whole bunches of derogatory stuff here] so-called "people". LOL

    Guess it could be called a backlash, or a lesson in civility: mess hurts, don't it?

    On the other hand, even if we were all to actively engage in complete anti-white racism; how much weight would it really have?

    Believe me: after 50 years, I am 1000% purentee RACIST!! I fought myself against it for a long time, but there just ain't no other way for me to respond to the mess I get from "them" on a daily!! (I'm in Lynnwood, in WA state and it is getting to be a lot worse than it was! I'd almost wish these "folks" would just be blatant about it. I also wish that I could stop myself.) (is there a "banning" in the offing? can i tie the noose this time? got a great deal on feathers and tar ...)
     
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    I havent heard a black person say "honky" since the 1970's

    Care to inform me where the "black people" rioted in regards to Don Imus and Michael Richards comments?

    In Jamaica and Nigeria they dont have "Black Chat" or "black newspapers" etc because blacks are the majority and therefore generic so there is no need, however in a country like US or UK where blacks are a minority and you have a website that specialises in issues that effect or concern black people often ignored by the mainstream you may want to call it "Black Chat".

    Whites being the generic majority most "news" in the US tends to be "white news" but theres no need to name that because like blacks in Nigeria they are the majority.

    White people DID speak about black people like that for over 300 years, its only become unacceptable to speak like that in recent times (the last 40 or so years).

    Give black people 300 years and we'll probably stop speaking like that eventually too.....and be glad we only talk and dont top it off with segregating enslaving raping and lynching whites too.

    Boo hoo sob sob, poor Don Imus and Michael Richards!!! They're not racist!!! They were only doing a Chris Rock impression and now there life is destroyed!!! Because thats the only time white people are racist, when they imitate blacks who are the biggest racists on earth!! Boo hoo sob sob!!!!!

    Yeah because until evil racist blacks started calling whites "honky" everything was soooo great in the USA!!! No racism or anything just blacks and whites living side by side singing "I want to teach the world to sing!!"


    And you know the majority are because I guess you've spoken personally to all 30 million plus black people in America.


    So do I also wish black people would stop living in ghettos and integrate with the whites in the suburbs who didnt leave those areas that became more black because of racism (as you've eloquently explained the only racism in the world comes from black people) whites only went to the suburbs expecting black people to follow and were horrified at racist blacks who chose to remain poor rather than integrate with them!
     
  7. Hoperk2

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    Ok

    People don't seem to understand what I'm asking let me use another example even though I don't like the Guy lets use this Imus thing.
    Black Comedian Goes On T.v. Says honky ******* whitey or whatever it's fine hah hah ha. That ugly old dude Imus says nappy headed hoes and it's all over the news dude gets fired everybodys outraged.. Double standard you see. It's ok for you to joke about my race but heaven forbid I do it to you. (even though I wouldn't) . Hah look at little whitey trying to shoot hoops. It's a common thing to here anywhere you go.The fact is I hear More people of african descent being racist than people of anglo-saxon descent. That's saying something.


    Ask white racist?? About what Black people say? That's just ignorant and it would do nothing but piss me off at there response because theyre stupid and close minded like anyother racsict.
     
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    Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and you understood the damage that has and presently affects and infects a people who have not healed from the damage done to them for generations you would feel and think differently about this. Furthermore, black people for the ump-teenth time can not be RACIST !!
    We can be Prejudice but not racist. This will be the last time i post this on this forum pertaining to racism and this time it isn't being posted for our physically white visitor but for our mentally white visitors who think they are not victims of white mental brainwashing.


    What is White Supremacy ??

    Okay people, lets be rational and objective about this. I say, based upon history that the answer is NO ! A black person can not be racist. However, before stating why this is so, let us turn to “The Oxford Companion To The English Language” for a better definition of this word so that we have some clarity. Mind you, this is not the definition of black people, but of the highest authority of White people. It is as follows:

    1. The word Racism is of European origin. French.

    2. Although often presented as scientific, especially in the wake of Darwinism, such a theory serves to buttress the assumption that one’s own race is superior to all others. It may follow from this that one’s own race therefore has, among other things, the right to control (and, when deemed necessary, enslave and even exterminate) people of races that are taken to be inferior or undesirable. It was used to justify European expansion and taken to extremes by the Nazis during world war two and continues to underpin the concept of white supremacy.

    Okay, time for class to begin ! Based upon their own definition, no black person can be a racist. Based upon the definition,which is theirs, it is a system of control. Therefore racisim is a system of white people, by white people, that is used to control, enslave, and exterminate anyone not classified as white.

    The key words to understand is that it’s a system of control. What do black people control ? We don’t control our education, they do. We don’t control the economics of this country, they do. We don’t control the health care, the entertainment industry, the produce, the laws, the religions, the banking system or anything else as it relates to anyone…including ourselves. We know who controls all of this, and based upon their own definition of their own word, the only racist in the world are white people !!!

    The only thing that black people can be is prejudice, because we clearly do not have the system, the control or the power to be racist. How we may ask does this affect anyone on a personal level ? Well lets face it, if you don’t like someone because they are white, it means absolutely nothing at all.

    If on the other hand a white person don’t like you…whether it be on the job, at the realestate office, the bank, the police, the judge, the hospital or anyplace at all…it carries a lot of weight and can affect your life on a personal level. THAT IS POWER, THAT IS CONTROL, THAT IS RACISM !! So would someone in their infinite wisdom please clarify to me how a black person can be racist ?
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    Now in terms of SOLUTIONS: THERE IS ONLY ONE: First of all, WE WILL NEVER CHANGE WHITE PEOPLE OR CONTROL THEM. THIS IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT MUST BE CLEAR. THEY ARE WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE AND THEIR WHOLE THING IS ABOUT SURVIVAL AS BEING WHITE PEOPLE. IN ORDER TO ENSURE THEIR SURVIVAL THEY FEEL THAT THEY MUST CONTROL ALL AREAS OF LIFE THAT COULD POSSIBLY AFFECT THEIR SURVIVAL.
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    How will we rise from this? What is our solution? It’s simple and yet calls for one simple RESPONSIBILITY ON OUR PART. “CONTROL THE EDUCATION OF OUR OWN CHILDREN!!!” How do we send our children out to a WHITE INSTITUTION OF LEARNING AND THEN THINK THAT A BLACK CHILD IS GOING TO COME BACK HOME TO US???”…and imagine, we do this to them in kindergarden, with the celebration of every white holiday, every white structured religion, every white foundation: starting with, “I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America, and ” TO THE R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C FOR WHICH IT STANDS”…”I THOUGHT THIS WAS A DEMOCRACY?”

    So we already start out their lives with this little white lie and then the lie gets built upon by celebrating the Presidents holidays and others before they are old enough to know that these same people were our ancestors slave masters…and then the lies start compounding before they even reach an age of understanding…before we know it, we done shoved “white supremacy all in their little young minds”. Now we got to start deprogramming the damage we did or allowed the system to do. Why??

    BECAUSE WE WERE NOT WISE ENOUGH TO CONTROL THEIR EDUCATION FROM THE DOOR!!! It is the foundation of a house that determines if a structure is going to stand strong and last. Why do we allow WHITE PEOPLE to set the foundation? Then we think that as OUR (CHILDREN/FUTURE) get older that they can learn about our own people and our history. NO NO NO!! It doesn’t matter too much then. It’s not a question of them learning, it’s who sets the foundation that will determine if it will stand or fall.

    WHITE PEOPLE KNOW THIS…WHY DON’T WE??
     
  9. Hoperk2

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    Give black people 300 years

    King Tubbs, Give black people 300 years and we'll probably stop speaking like that eventually too.....and be glad we only talk and dont top it off with segregating enslaving raping and lynching whites too.

    You spit on the Great men Who came before you by thinking like this.
    Martin Luther King and the Civil rights movement... The fight for equality..
    you don't really want equallity do you.. you blame whites for everthing don't you
    white people kidnapped your ancestors from africa.. Go to africa today and you'll find slaves still being bought sold whipped all that bad Sh*t my ancestors didn't do. not all white people were a part of this whole mess. My ancestors came here poor immigrants from scotland after way more than 300 years of rape murder and enslavement by the english. That's My grandmas side My grandfather side Is Cherokee and you should Know bout that Sh*t. Nobody In my family has enslaved any man.
    I don't go around pointing blame. I just want to know why you do.
     
  10. anAfrican

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    Aside from the logical fallacy of using definitions printed by white folks (and we know just how truthful, altruistic and sincere they can be, don't we? that's gotta be as clear as the nose on the Sphinx, yes?), I, for one, would (do more than) "assume" that Africans are superior to all others!! Look at the rythm! Look at the Spirituality!! Look at the Beauty!!

    I would opine that the "key word" would be "It may follow.."
     
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