Black Spirituality Religion : Why in the world did slaves believe in the christian god?

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  1. ManicRaider

    ManicRaider Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I don't get it. They're feed this story about an all-loving god who loves and protects them yet everyday they live their lives in fear of being beaten, raped or killed. They believe that praying and having faith will get them through it yet generations of them live and die in agony and fear. It's truly inconceivable to me.

    I didn't want to talk about this because I know a lot of people here are christian and have strong feelings about their religion but I was just watching a program about segregation and I found some of the imagery and words too much to bare. I had to keep looking away and turning the channel until I just turned the TV off. I can't imagine how slavery was compared to this. I can't see why anyone back then or now would still believe that an all-loving god is looking over them.

    Another thing is how some black activist talk about how god will help them against the white supremacists yet it was the white supremacist who taught (or maybe even forced) the idea of god upon them in the first place. Someone please explain to me how any of this makes sense. If someone were beating you up badly and kept talking about a righteous being that can "save" you, would you have strong faith that this righteous being that your attacker is talking about will help save you from that person? All the while the attacker is saying that he is also in the being's good grace?
     
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    stockholm syndrome

    In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors as an act of kindness. The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome. The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm, in which the bank robbers held bank employees hostage from August 23 to August 28, 1973. In this case, the victims became emotionally attached to their captors, and even defended them after they were freed from their six-day ordeal.
    The term "Stockholm syndrome" was coined by the criminologist and psychiatrist Nils Bejerot, who assisted the police during the robbery, and referred to the syndrome in a news broadcast. It was originally defined by psychiatrist Frank Ochberg to aid the management of hostage situations.



    http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=stockholm+syndrome&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
     
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    peace

    Fear, can make people do strange things.....Not saying they are ALL scared of the 'slave master', but that fear was and is the foundation of any religion.
     
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    It's been my experience that most Blacks that don't believe in the Christian God is because they believe, like the White Supremacist, that even though the Bible says that God will judge this evil White Supremacist government, he won't.

    in other words, the White Supremacist have read the Bible and knows that it says that God hates their government and therefore, they have fooled many Blacks into NOT reading the Bible for themselves to see this written fact.

    It would be ridiculous for this White system to Separate from the Bible if it supported their taking advantage of Blacks and taking the opportunity to pit them against each other and then put each other in a bind and eventually chattel slavery and not ever being judged for such trickery. Therefore, they separated from it after they tricked as many Blacks as they could and they try to fight against the words of God of which says in the Bible that he has set a date to end their world dominion, and will give the kind of Blacks who don't support human sacrifice another chance.

    I also believe that another major problem with not believing in the Christian Bible as opposed to just taking what you hear about religion is that repeatedly, in ancient times befor the White supremacist system was able to set up, ancient Black people bonded with them and allowed white people to infiltrate their systems and overthrow them with the help of other blacks, and today, many Black African people want to ignore this and pretend like white people just came into Black lands all by themselves and overpowered black people all by themselves. History shows that Black people had a disrespect towards each other and issues of self-hate of which the opportunistic foreigners recognized and used this to their advantage. They didn't overcome ancient blacks by gun power or any kind of fire power, but by exploiting other blacks to do their work. Now we have to realize that in addition to mind control, they also have fire power to their advantage and they are not going to just give up and let Black people have freedom.

    if people don't read for themselves and have a better WORKING solution to overcome White Supremacy and world domination than what is offered, then it would be better than provide it than to just stress over the Christian Bible because it was scripted a long time ago and has a time censored factor of which, in a few years, it will prove itself, whether it be truth or not, anyway.
     
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    peace


    For those who have obviously mis-read the title of the thread to go on their usually scheduled and programmed rant:

     
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    the result of human suffering, human suffering thats hard to conceive.
     
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    "Why in the world did slaves believe in the christian god?"

    It's hard to say if Enslaved Africans ever did believe in the christian God. They were forced to pretend to believe in this god, but it's hard to know if they actually believed in him.

    If beaten to not practice your religion or believes and you are forced to practice some thing else. Do you stop believing in your religion or do you just pretend to believe in this new god for your survival's sack?

    From what I've read, that is what Africans did. Also they created secret societies to practice their believes in the woods, away from the white-man, even in the southern U.S.

    Over time, their children did adapt the christian faith, for the traditional believes were left behind.
     
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    What!? I just want to respond, due to a certain comment that I just read directed towards African Americans who are Christians as being 'ranting' and 'raving', and say that this is just what I am referring to in doing the work of white supremacy. The title of this thread is:


    Why in the world did slaves believe in the christian god?

    And I responded to this title of which was further expounded upon by the starter of this thread:

    "I can't see why anyone back then or now would still believe that an all-loving god is looking over them."

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=707885&postcount=1

    Again, the ancient Blacks worked against each other and were exploited by the opportunist, thus if some of us believe that there has to be an higher power to deliver us, than it is our human right. if you have a better plan than to just be frustrated about someone else way of life, then it would be better to provide a working solution.


    Just for clarification, the thread starter referred to slaves and Black African Americans NOW, who believe in the Christian God. He was not just talking about 'slaves' and slavery time!

    And my response is referring to people not reading the Bible for themselves, thereby doing the work of White Supremacy. For a Black person to bash another Black person for their religion is more than just bashing Christianity, but it is Black-on-Black act of hate and does the work of white racist. That is the essence of what America has provided since slavery times. It's not important to their system if Blacks bash other Blacks for Christianity or being Muslim or wearing a particular pair of name brand shoes, or straighten their haire with chemicals or etc., it is just important that it occurs...


     
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    I do agree that many were forced to believe in the white man's version of the christian god which is not backed by even their script...and that's is the prevalent problem today.
     
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    Its funny that such a question cannot be answered with a legit answer.

    The ultimate question is: why would a person walk into a fire knowing that the heat will consume them? Why would a man worship the master of the man who ok'd the man to enslave you and kill you? Why would I continue to eat poison berries when I know the person that is feeding them to me wish for my ultimate demise?

    Most Christians will walk around the question - try to make logic using their scriptures but in truth - they have no real answer because the answer is to painful for them to bear especially if they devoted their whole lives to the religious dogma.

    If Christian will only take a few moments out of their time to sit back and wake up then they will see what is really going on.


    Peace and blessing



    Ru2religious
     
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