Black Spirituality Religion : Why good people are suffering?

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Why good people are suffering?

    Some people say that even good people are unnecessarily harmed. They criticize God. You cannot decide any person as a good person. Did you observe him every minute from his birth? You also think yourself as a good person. Are you aware of your sins done in your childhood? You might have harmed an innocent insect in your childhood. Do you remember that? Even mental feelings are sins, which may not be expressed in words and actions. The feelings of the mind are the source of words and actions. Therefore the feeling may not hurt others today. But tomorrow it will hurt others which will come out in words and actions. In fact, intention is given more importance in the crime according to law. The judge gives more importance to the intention in giving the punishment. You are walking on the road and the ant is killed by your foot, without any intention. There is no punishment for such sins. But when you kill the same ant with intention, you are punished by God. Therefore mind is the source of action.

    If somebody harmed really a good person, then also leave it to God. You should not revenge. Why? The reason is that you cannot judge the exact nature and line of the case. You do not remember your own sins. Some times you do the sin thinking that it is good. You cannot be the standard in judging your own sins. Only the Lord can decide. Therefore, if somebody harmed really a good person, in the view of the Lord also, then the Lord himself will punish him.

    You cannot take the law and order in to your hand. You have to refer the case to the court. Let the Judge decide, and punish the criminal. Therefore the Lord said, “Revenge is Mine”. If the revenge is justified, the Lord will certainly punish. The Lord will not revenge if you pray Him to do so. The Lord, will not excuse even if you recommend the unjust case.

    Neither you have the power to punish nor to excuse anybody. The reason for this is that you are not omniscient. If a sinner realizes the sin and repents, the punishment is reduced. After repentance if you do not repeat the sins, the punishment is cancelled. If the sinner does not repent, he will repeat the sin again and again. Such sinner can be controlled only by punishment. If this is not true the police department has no use. There are some sinners who can be controlled only by third degree treatment. If such punishment and revenge are not required, and if everybody can be transformed by preaching, then what is the necessity of the existence of’ Hell and Liquid Fire’.

    If such possibility of transformation by love and knowledge is there, then why the Lord mentioned the word ‘revenge’ at all? Therefore this means that there are some sinners who cannot be transformed by love and knowledge. Some clever people criticize Lord Rama and Lord Krishna, who have resorted to punish the sinners. Such clever people should answer about the word ‘revenge’ uttered by the Lord and also should explain the mention of the liquid fire in the scriptures. If all the human beings can be transformed through love and knowledge such words should not have been mentioned in their scriptures.
     
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    Never has there been such a thing as a good person in these generations, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of the Father, as it is written. Those who criticize the Father for all coming under stress or punishment, which is deserving for our wicked behavior, do so at their own loss and harm.

    However, those who are faithful to the King for His sacrifice for our sins, and believe in all of His works and teachings and His resurrection from the dead, certainly know the mercy of the Father and the Son, and in no wise believe anything given of the Most High would be unjust. The faithful know that no good people suffer, but only sinners, and that the faithful endure tribulation, in joy.
     
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    Are you on some kind of posting marathon in order to break a world record? Have you ever read anything you post or is want you say not important just the number of posts? I would say I look forward to a reply from you but I'm not sure how many more posts you need to make before you break the world record.

    Good luck :toast:
     
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    Lmagere,

    Why are you here?

    The post you are responding to is from 2007.. 6 years ago.. and the person you are aiming your witty remark at has not logged-in to Destee.com since May of 2011.. over 2 years ago.

    You say science is the end-all to be-all.. yet you spend all of your time in the religion section.

    Now I'm not calling you Troll.. but that is some very trollish behavior.

    #realtalk..
     
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    May mistake this persons posts appear at the top of my current responses and I was wondering why they where so many with not responses. I can see now they are old posts but one other person keeps responding to them making them appear current. Going forward I'll pay more attention to the dates. Thank you for pointing this out to me:10900:

    As for being a troll you may be right not sure what the definition of a troll is but it may be that I'm very trollish. All I can say is religion interests me for a number of reasons, I like stories and it makes scientific calms so I tend to involve myself with what interests me.

    People post all kinds of things on here and I assume they want responses. On my part I try to respond showing respect for the person but I don't have to respect their ideas.

    I'm sure if I'm breaking any rule people will report me and moderators will remove me from this site.
     
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    Trollish indeed.

    "Respect" in a serious discussion is responding to the substance of the other person's content.. not merely to the appearance of that content. And this has nothing to do with any rules.. this has to do with living and interacting within a community.. any community.. online and offline. If you're not careful you may find yourself in an irrellevant pile talking only to yourself.

    You may have technically joined Destee.com in June of this year, but, from what i can see, you have yet to join the community here.. and your behavior in this thread is indicative of why that is. Respect is the name of the game.. and it's also a pre-requisite for substantive engagement.
    And truthfully.. it's not that hard to do.. so it really comes down to a person's intentions.

    #realertalk..
     
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