Black Spirituality Religion : Why does a God of organized religion need to be praised?

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  1. Sekhemu

    Sekhemu Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    If the western concept of God is omnipotent, omnipresent et al. and lacks nothing. Why does this God need to be praised and feared?

    Share your thoughts please.
     
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    You know what? I'm tired of debating about religion/spirituality. There's nothing to debate...It's 2004a.c.e. If you don't know who/what/where "GOD" is by now you don't have much time left. "GOD" cannot be a force to behold without it's KNOWLEDGE. The WHOLE of "GOD" cannot be found inside of a small book of plagiarized and falsified stories from ancient myths. The concept of "GOD" cannot be given to you/me by a people who have no respect for life (human, plant, animal,etc.) The "GOD" of your ancestors cannot be pleased with the acceptance of the "GOD" of your enslavers.

    I'm pissed with the ignorance, because it's slowing down our ascension. Ascension to what, you ask? The next level of existence.

    :bomb: time's wastin' folks...
     
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    Sekhemu Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    u hit that right on the nail brotha :grouphug:
     
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    That is probably true of the God of organized religion. The God I believe in want us to love him not fear him. Christians, Jews and Muslims believe that all mankind come from one person. This person use to commune with God on a regular basis. Imagine if you could be in the presence of a conceiveable God all the time. Truely awsome. Once sin entered in and man fall from Gods glory and man's nature changed. Man catered more to needs of the flesh rather than the spirit. This nature causes man to rebel against God's obedience. Man has become self serving, defiant, automonous(or so we think) and barbaric. When sin entered in God lost his close and personal family with mankind. God just wants his family back. God wants our trust and love. Those two qualities go hand in hand. If we loved God as we say we do we would trust God to manage lives to our liking instead of us trying to handle things ourselves . Whatever God has for us we would be able to accept it without question knowing that God has our best interest in mind. As parents we are like God on a super minute scale. We don't rule over our children, we guide our with love and care. When we instruct our children to do something and they question our authority or disobey our instructions we get upset. We unsual get upset and punish our children often telling them," I know more about you than you know about yourself" or "Because I said so" etc.. This sound a lot like God to me or least the God I believe in.


    Peace

    Radical Faith
     
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    You cool with me, because you have the concept of GOD working with and for you "down pat". Good analogy about the parents love, VERY IN-SIGHT-FUL. PEACE
     
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    Sekhemu, I heard something interesting today. Have you heard of the concept that some of the "GODS" that people worship in these world religions are actually jealous of the worshippers? Something about Man's ability to replace those "GODS" and usurp the power...
     
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    YES! YES! That is exactly what need to be said. PEACES
     
  8. Sekhemu

    Sekhemu Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    :read: I sure have
     
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    Chapter Twenty-Five
    BLACK/WHITE ALLIANCES (CONTINUED)
    by John Henrik Clarke
    Now let's deal with the Christian alliances between the African Christian and the European Christian. The minute this man took over the religion, he thought he should be the boss of it. The Africans produced the first monastic order of monks, and the first school of of catechism.
    In 500 A.D., the most noted school of catechism in all North Africa was presided over by a Black woman, who was teaching white people the rudiments of Christianity. A Roman Zealot who thought he should be in charge, and who could barely read or write, brought a mob into her academy and killed her. They threw her bones into the sea so that she could not be made a martyr. This began the destruction of the religious alliance between the African and European Christians.

    Romans corrupted Christianity, and had internal fights until the Africans began to turn on Christianity. Then the African world brought another religion into being. Two educated servants, both Africans from Ethiopia, created Islam. Bilal and Zaldbia Harlth, both Ethiopians, are the men who put down the basic documents which would later emerge as the Koran. The Africans began to establish a partnership with this religion and with the people of the Middle East. It was a good partnership. It would remain good for nearly a thousand years until the partner turned on the Black partner.

    What am I really saying? I'm saying we people really need to take a good look at ourselves and begin to exercise the essential selfishness of survival. I'm saying that our first allegiance is going to have to be our Blackness or our Africanity. We will have to ask questions and make alliances that are based on self-interest. Too many of us think that we have to become ‘international’ now.

    I think that when there is an international theme in the politics of the world, we have to create as our agenda, looking inward to ourselves first. We have to take inventory of ourselves as a people. We must stop talking about multi-racialism. People in power do not talk about multi-racialism. They talk about their laws, and either you obey them or get out. But we are so hung up on sentiment that we don't know how to handle power. The only way to handle power is to be powerful; not to talk about it, but to exercise it.

    Because we're so non-racial, because we're so tolerant, because we're so kind, we do not produce the kind of safeguards to protect ourselves. We need some protection from our sentiment because sentiment and power don't go together. When you become sentimental about power you don't have it anymore. And we can lose some of our naivete and sentiment without losing our humanity, which is something I can't say for most of the powerful people in the world. In order to lose their sentiment and to deal with power, they lost their humanity and human feelings toward human beings. I don't think we have to do it.

    What you have to understand is that you stand on the wings of power and you stand on the wings of the stage, ready to come on to the stage of history. And whether you do badly or not, or whether you're ready or not, you can't even stop coming if you wanted to. It will be left with you to make this the kind of a world that no man will have to apologize for his color and no man will have to celebrate it; but out of your essential Africaness, looking first and foremost, you might create the atmosphere where other people need not necessarily walk in fear.

    Understand me well, I said nothing about forgiving anybody! I'm talking about how your energy will be deployed in building first, a social order for yourself and your children and then using your new position to build a social order for the world. I'm saying that only out of your nationalism and your Africanity can this happen.



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    Make sure you are not infringing on copy rights permission when posting an excerpt

    Excellent discourse though!
     
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