Black Education / Schools : Why America needs a new approach to school desegregation

ogoun

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Equal rights and justice.

For those that still believe desegregation is the way to achieve those ends, I think busing white kids to our black schools and communities would provide them white pampered suburbanites with a much needed education they could and never would get anywhere else.

For myself I'm more aligned with Malcolm X (I'm paraphrasing here); ' We didn't fight and die for the right to sit next to bull Conner at the lunch counter. I want him out of my way.'

Equal rights and equal justice.
"If we don't get it. We're gotta take it anyway"
Jimmy Cliff
 

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Equal rights and justice.

For those that still believe desegregation is the way to achieve those ends, I think busing white kids to our black schools and communities would provide them white pampered suburbanites with a much needed education they could and never would get anywhere else.

For myself I'm more aligned with Malcolm X (I'm paraphrasing here); ' We didn't fight and die for the right to sit next to bull Conner at the lunch counter. I want him out of my way.'

Equal rights and equal justice.
"If we don't get it. We're gotta take it anyway"
Jimmy Cliff
JC is one serious dude.

 

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America Hates Its Gifted Kids
http://www.newsweek.com/america-hates-its-gifted-kids-226327
Why it Stinks to be Gifted in Schools Today
https://raisinglifelonglearners.com/it-stinks-to-be-gifted/

There is much more to the education issue than segregation.

The computers may be able to make everyone independent of the educational system.

In 1951 Isaac Asimov was writing about education in 2157.
http://visual-memory.co.uk/daniel/funtheyhad.html

The funny thing is that his version of education is already technologically obsolete. But our educational traditions are blocking the possibilities.
 

NNQueen

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Having read all of the above, what is the root cause of the Black man's burden? When did it begin and why does it continue? It seems to me that the answer to much of our problems today lie within that which is responsible for where we are and what's happening to us. Is the Black man in control of his/her destiny? How can we resolve our issues if we continue to play a role in sustaining the problem rather than finding and acting on a solution that works for us? In ancient civilizations, they were more homogenous, whereas today, we celebrate diversity. People from many cultures living today--but not always in harmony. What is the Black man's culture and what do we celebrate and have in common besides the color of our skin and the continent where we originated from? What's our heritage? Do we have a common language, religion, food, dress, etc.? Is the "divide and conquer" still at play among us today? Can the answers to those questions help us to thrive and be more in control of our future?
 

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If living without electricity for a year is what it takes to advance as Black people, I could do it. How is electricity benefiting us or how are we using it to benefit our people from a social justice standpoint? Using technology only to fit into someone else's scheme that keeps us under their control is not a benefit to me. But maybe, I don't understand the point of your question.
 

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How would you like to live without electricity for a year? Is electricity Culture?
If living without electricity for a year is what it takes to advance as Black people, I could do it. How is electricity benefiting us or how are we using it to benefit our people from a social justice standpoint? Using technology only to fit into someone else's scheme that keeps us under their control is not a benefit to me. But maybe, I don't understand the point of your question.

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All I can do is :facepalm:

Woman dependent on oxygen tank dies after power cut off to home following overdue bill

KTRK – Houston


https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-dependent-oxygen-tank-dies-232537895.html
 

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How American Students Truly Rank in International Testing


We throw more money at our schools than just about any other country, and what do we get?
For our K-12 school system, an honorary membership in the Third World,” writes Professor F. H. Buckley in a Fox News opinion column.
In math, we’re 38thin the world among developed countries in terms of how 15 year-olds perform. And it’s getting worse, not better.”





Rank in International Testing | Observer" style="box-sizing: border-box;">How American Students Truly Rank in International Testing | Observer
http://observer.com/2018/01/how-american-students-truly-rank-in-international-testing/ - 122k - Cached - Similar untries start to lap us. ... Among the top

 

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If living without electricity for a year is what it takes to advance as Black people, I could do it.
What does advance mean? One year without electricity would be an extreme pain in the posterior. No Lights! No refrigerator! Imagine the entire US without power for a year. How many would die just because operating rooms in hospitals could not work?

We have all of this talk about Culture but pretend that we have not adjusted to living in a Culture of Technology and act as if not understanding it does not matter. That lack of understanding is just another dependence.
 
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All I can do is :facepalm:

Woman dependent on oxygen tank dies after power cut off to home following overdue bill

KTRK – Houston


https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-dependent-oxygen-tank-dies-232537895.html
I heard about this and it's sad. I'm wondering why she didn't have a back up tank that doesn't need electricity to function. But, you make a good point in this discussion. But can't energy come from other sources other than your local power plant? Just a question I'm curious about.
 

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