Black Spirituality Religion : Who Stole (Plagerized) From Who?

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  1. UBNaturally

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    Going through some lectures and reasonings that often explain a concept in a way to compare its association with another... even though both concepts have varying levels of writings and interpretations, I have often wondered how many of these connections can be made with the many different concepts or thoughts within diverse cultures.

    Take for instance the following below...


    The Boshongo are a Bantu tribe of Central Africa.

    In the beginning there was only darkness, water, and the great god Bumba. One day Bumba, in pain from a stomach ache, vomited up the sun. The sun dried up some of the water, leaving land. Still in pain, Bumba vomited up the moon, the stars, and then some animals: the leopard, the crocodile, the turtle, and, finally, some men, one of whom, Yoko Lima was white like Bumba.


    Wak was the creator god who lived in the clouds. He kept the vault of the heavens at a distance from the earth and covered it with stars. He was a benefactor and did not punish. When the earth was flat Wak asked man to make his own coffin, and when man did this Wak shut him up in it and pushed it into the ground. For seven years he made fire rain down and the mountains were formed. Then Wak unearthed the coffin and man sprang forth, alive. Man tired of living alone, so Wak took some of his blood, and after four days, the blood became a woman whom the man married. They had 30 children, but the man was ashamed of having so many so he hid 15 of them. Wak then made those hidden children into animals and demons.


    Modimo was the creator. He distributed good things, appeared in the east and belonged to the element water. At the same time he was a destroyer, a terrifying creature responsible for drought, hail, cyclones and earthquakes. When these things happened he appeared in the west and was part of the element fire. Modimo was also sky and light, earth and root. He was unique and singular. He had no ancestors, no past or future. He pervaded the whole of creation. His name was taboo and could be spoken only by priests and seers.


    The Shilluks of the Nile region, for example, tell a story in which humankind is fashioned out of clay.

    The creator Juok moulded all men of earth, and that while he was engaged in the work of creation he wandered about the world. In the land of the whites he found a pure white earth or sand, and out of it he shaped white men.

    Then he came to the land of Egypt and out of the mud of the Nile he made red or brown men. Lastly, he came to the land of the Shilluks, and finding there black earth he created black men out of it. The way in which he modeled men was this.

    He took a lump of earth and said to himself, 'I will make man, but he must be able to walk and run and go out into the fields, so I will give him two long legs, like the flamingo.'

    Having done so, he thought again, 'The man must be able to cultivate his millet, so I will give him two arms, one to hold the hoe, and the other to tear up the weeds.' So he gave him two arms.

    Then he thought again, 'The man must be able to see his millet, so I will give him two eyes.' He did so accordingly.

    Next he thought to himself, 'The man must be able to eat his millet, so I will give him a mouth.' And a mouth he gave him accordingly.

    After that he thought within himself, 'The man must be able to dance and speak and sing and shout, and for these purposes he must have a tongue.' And a tongue he gave him accordingly.

    Lastly, the deity said to himself, 'The man must be able to hear the noise of the dance and the speech of the great men, and for that he needs two ears.' So two ears he gave him, and sent him out into the world a perfect man.'


    How The World Was Created From A Drop Of Milk

    At the beginning there was a huge drop of milk
    Then Doondari (God) came and he created the stone.
    Then the stone created iron;
    And iron created fire;
    And fire created water;
    And water created air.
    The Doondari descended a second time. And he took the five elements
    And he shaped them into man.
    But man was proud.
    Then Doondari created blindness and blindness defeated man.
    But when blindness became too proud,
    Doondari created sleep, and sleep defeated blindness;
    But when sleep became too proud,
    Doondari created worry, and worry defeated sleep;
    But when worry became too proud,
    Doondari created death, and death defeated worry.
    But when death became too proud,
    Doondari descended for the third time,
    And he came as Gueno, the eternal one
    And Gueno defeated death.

    A Fulani story of Mali

    And of course there are plenty more of these that can be shared

    Did these concepts within various cultures spring from a collective source, or did they have their own source which may have resembled others?