Black Spirituality Religion : Who or What is the Comforter according to scripture?

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    peace

    - continuation from the "bible verses and slavery" thread....

    who really is "the comforter"?



    John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    - this right here is speaking about more than 1 comforter, so how do you determine which comforter is the one to show you all things..?



    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    - here "the comforter" is called the Holy Ghost, then called a HE about 8 words later. I know what most christians will say and that is that the Holy Ghost is a man, but that's not true according to your Trinity...


    John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

    - Here "the comforter" - is called the SPIRIT OF TRUTH....and Jesus is saying HE will send "the comforter" when just above in John 14:16 he says he will pray to the father and the father (god) shall give you ANOTHER COMFORTER......now this is a very important contradiction here!


    John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

    - (side note) Here the biblical Jesus is admitting that he is not "the one"...... - sorry, i was watching the matrix for the hundreth time the other night...


    I'll stop right here and see where we are......

    All are welcome - please share your thoughts
     
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    script _"a written version of a play or composition"

    ture- "meaning state of"

    there is no second coming because the "comforter" is Goddess

    God has come and gone, more then once

    peace
     
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    :SuN049:

    Already Been there/Done that one with Abdurratln. :lol:
     
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    Would you like to expound on the "goddess" concept and how "god has come and gone more than once" for those who may not know what you mean....
     
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    Cool, but i wonder why you felt I or anyone else needed to know that?

    As i stated in my initial post, this is a continuation of a conversation in a thread that i accidently took off course in responding to another member whom i was hoping would continue in this thread that i created for that sole purpose....

    All are welcome though, if they have some input about the topic..

    Knowing who has already discussed this with others doesn't do me, or i would think anyone else any good....every topic on the forums has been discussed over and over. I'm sure i have discussed this topic sometime in the past. :10500:
     
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    I wasn't specifically concerned with whether you or anyone else "needed to know that."

    I made a statement about my prior exchanges on the topic.

    Moreover, I would also surmise that "knowing who has already discussed this others" also doesn't do you or (I would think) anyone any harm either.

    However, I do thank you for the "open invitation" and should I change my mind to participate, I will do so.
     
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    John.14

    [1] Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
    [2] In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    [3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
    [4] And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
    [5] Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
    [6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    [7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
    [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
    [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
    [10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
    [11] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
    [12] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    [13] And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son
     
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    Did you miss the 2nd sentence in that verse??....Jesus says, "I WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU."

    John.16
    [1] These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
    [2] They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
    [3] And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
    [4] But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
    [5] But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
    [6] But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
    [7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
    [8] And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
    [9] Of sin, because they believe not on me;
    [10] Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
    [11] Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
    [12] I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
    [13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
    [14] He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
    [15] All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you
     
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    John 10:

    [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    [29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
    [30] I and my Father are one
     
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    JESUS is THE COMFORTER.

    John 14:

    [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
    [17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    [18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

    19] Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
    [20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you
     
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