Black Spirituality Religion : Who Is The Comforter ?

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    When Jesus Said In John 14; 16 And I Quote '' And I Will Pray ( The Father ) And He Shall Give You ( Another ) Comforter That He May Abid With You Forever ; What Was The ( Another ) '' That Jesus Was Saying ( His Father ) Would Send ?
    However , no one can Deny the fact that '' Another '' is in Reference to something of The Same Kind . This kind would have to be Another '' Teacher As Jesus Was .
    According To The American Heritage Dictionary Of The English Language , The Word '' Another '' Is Defined As ; Another 1. An Additional ; One More , 2 . Distinctly Different ; Some Other . 3 . Different , But Of The Same Character ; A . An Additional One , B . A Different One , C , One Of The Same Kind .
    In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The Word For '' Another '' Used In John 14 ;16 Is Aakhir From The Root Word Aakhara Meaning '' Another , The Other A Thing Or Person Other Than Former Or First '' As In The Phrase Rajulu Aakharu Meaning
    Another Man . The Connotation ( Implication ; Suggestion ) Here Is merely Merely Another '' But '' Another Of The Same Kind '' So Its Safe That The Word Another Which Is Used In The Quote , Is In Reference To '' Someone Of The Same Kind ' And For Those Of You Who Say ( Jesus Is God Or The Father , Here He Says That He Will Pray ( Ask ) The Father ; Not Not Himself )
    What Is The Comforter ?
    A Comforter Is Defined As ''One Who Consoles Or Comforts ''
    The Word '' Comforter '' ( The Noun ) Is Derived From The Verb '' To Comfort '' Which Means ' To Strengthen Greatly , To Give Strength And Hope To ; Cheer To Ease The Grief Or Trouble Of ; Console In Aramic ( Hebrew ) The Word For '' Comforter '' Is Nacham . Other Forms Of The Word Are ;
    5163 . Nacham Pronounced Nakh ' - am ; From 5162 Consolation , Nacham
    An Isr ; Naham ''
    5165 , Nechamah Pronounced Nekh - aw - maw ; From 5162 ; Consolation ; -
    Comfort
    5166. Nechemyah Pronounced Nekh - em - yaw ; From 5161 And 3050 Consolation ; Of Jah ; Nechemjah , The Name Of Three Isr . ; Nehemiah
    In The Greek Language The Word Used For '' Comforter '' Is Parakletos
    3870 Parakaleo Pronounced Par - ak al - eh - o ; From 3844 And 2564 Meaning '' To Call Near I.E. Invite , Invoke ( By Imploration , Horatation Or Consolatio ) Beseech , Call For , ( Be Of Good ) Comfort , Desire ( Give ) Exhort ( - Ation ), Intreat , Pray , Praise ,
    3874 . Paraklesis Pronounced Par - ak'lay - sis From 3870 Meaning '' Imploration , Horation , Solace ; - Comfort , Consolation , Exhoration , Intreaty Praise .
    Definitions Taken From Strong's Exhaustive Hebrew And Greek Concordance By Jame Strong , The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Word Used For Comforter Is Mu'izz From The Root Word Azaw And 'Azza Which Means '' To Take Patience Console ( One Self , To Comfort , Praise , Cratitude ''
    Other Forms Of The Word Are .
    1 . Azza .. Meaning '' Comfort , Consolation , Solace , Praise .
    2 , Ta'ziya ... Plural Ta'aazin Meaning '' Consolation . Solance Comfort , Condolence Offer Ones Condolence ''
    3 . Mi'azzin ... Meaning '' Comforter , Consoler , Condoler .. << Definition By Han Wehr English Arabic Dictionary .
    Now If You Hear Someone Say ; When He Come He Will Lead You Into All Truth What Do You Think The Implication Of '' He '' Would Represent Here ? Would You Say It Was Referring To A Person , Place , Or Thing ?Of Course You Have To Say It Is Referring To A Person . In English Grammar , The Third Person '' He ' Is Almost Always In Reference To A Person , A Male . So Then It's Also Safe To Say That The Quote In The Gospel Of John 16 ; 13 Is In Reference To A Person Not A Ghost . Not You Know That The Word '' Another '' Means '' One Of The Same Kind '' And The Pronoun '' He '' Is In Reference To A Person .
    Can The Word '' Comforter '' Be Found Anywhere Else In The Scripture ?
    However , The Fact Is There Are Numerous Places Throughout The Scripture Where The Words '' Comfort '' Or Comforter '' Can Be Found . I Have Selected A Few Quotes To Give You A Better Overstanding Of The Words '' Comforter '' And '' Comfort ''
    QUOTE # 1 Genesis 5 ; 29 < Noah Was A Comforter >
    QUOTE # 2 Isaiah 51 ; 12 < Isaiah Was A Comforter >
    QUOTE # 3 Isaiah 66 ; 13 < Isaiah Mother Comforter , Which Simply MNeans She Was A Comforter ( In The Sense She Consoled Her Son ) Also .
    Are These '' Comforters '' Mentioned In The Previous Question < Human Beings Or Not > < You Would Have To Say Yes They Are Human > .
    That's Right , They Were All Human Beings , In Every Instance That You Find The Word '' Comforter '' Mentioned In The Scripture , It Has Been In Reference To A Person , Again , Not A Ghost Or Spirit , < Here More To Research ! > .
    2Samuels 10; 3 Speaks Of A Comforter As A Person .
    1Chronicles 19 ; 3 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    Job 16; 2 Speaks Of A Comforter As Person .
    Ecclesiastes 4; 1 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    Nahum 3 ; 7 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    John 14 ; 16 , 26 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    John 15 ; 26 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    John 16 ; 7 Speak Of A Comforter As A Person .
    All These Are Quote Are In Reference To People . During The 2nd Century A.D. Man By The Name Of Montanus ( Founder Of Montanism , A Pentecostal Outgrowth Of Christianity In Asia Minor And North Africa From The 2nd To 9th Centuries ) Claimed To Be The Voice Of The Holy Spirit . He Calimed This Was A Fulfillment Of The New Testament Promise Of Pentecost , Which Is The Enlightment Of The Faithful Of The Holy Spirit . The Essential Principal Of Montanism Was Paraclete , The Spirit Of Truth , Whom Jesus Promised In The Book Of John 14 ; 16 ; 16; 7 , Was Manifesting Himself To The World Through Montanus And The Prophet And Prophetesses Associated With Him . Also Tutullian , An Early American Christian Author And Polemicist ( A Controversial Or Argumentative Person ) In History Was A Convert To Montanism . He Gave Himself Fully To This Movement And Eventually Became The Spokesman . Which Means He Too Believe That The Comforter ( Paraclete ) Was A Person .
    Is The Comforter The Holy Ghost Which Is Something Called The Holy Spirit .
    For Years Christians Have Been Teaching That The Comforter Is The Holy Ghost Sometimes Called The Holy Spirit . They Make It Seem As If The Concept Of The Holy Ghost Originated With Jesus . However , This Is Incorrect Because According To Genesis 1 ; 2 , The Holy Spirit Has Been Here Since The Foundation Of The Planet Earth .
    Genesis 1 ; 2
    '' AND THE EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM . AND VOID ; AND DARKNESS WAS
    UPON THE DEEP . AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD MOVED UPON THE FACE OF THE WATER .
    Where Is Your Proop That The Comforter Is A Ghost ?
    Even After Jesus Said ; 'I Must Go So That The Comforter Can Come ! The Christians Say That This Comforter Is TheHoly Ghost . Yes The Holy Ghost Was There Before The Birth Of Jesus . The Word In Syriac ( Arabic ) For '' Comforter '' Is Mu'izz . It Is Found In The Bible Eight Times In The Singular Form And Five Times In The Plural Form . The Word Mu'izz Stems From The Root ' Azza Which Means '' Comfort , Console , Condole , Condole With , Take Patience . John The Baptist Had The '' Holy Ghost '' Before Jesus Was Even Born . It Was With Him In Elisabeth's ..
    ( John The Baptist's Mother ) Womb .
    Luke 1 ; 15
    FOR HE SHALL BE GREAT IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD , AND SHALL DRINK
    NEITHER WINE NOR STRONG DRINK ; AND HE SHALL BE FILLED WITH THE
    HOLY GHOST ; EVEN FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB ''
    LUKE 1; 41
    AND IT CAME TO PASS , THAT , WHEN ELISABETH HEARD THE SALUTATION
    OF MARY , THE BABE LEAPED IN HER WOMB ; AND ELISABETH WAS FILLED
    WITH THE HOLY GHOST ''
    And According To Matthew 1 ; 18 The Holy Ghost Was With Jesus , While He Was In His Mother's Womb Also ..
    Matthew 1; 18
    NOW THE BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST WAS ON THIS WISE ; WHEN AS HIS
    MOTHER MARY WAS ESPOUSED TO JOSEPH , BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD OF THE HOLY GHOST .
    Further Proof That The Holy Ghost , Who Is Thought To Be The Comforter , Was Already There Can Be Found In Luke 2 ; 25 - 26 , Where A Devout Man Whose Name Was Simeon , Was Visted By The Holy Ghost Duruing The Time Of Jesus Birth . And You Can Find The Holy Ghost Mentioned In 1Kings 18; 12 And Ezekiel 23 ; 14 .. So How Did The Christian Arrive At Their Ridiculous Interpretation That The '' Comforter '' Is The Holy Ghost ???? .
    If A Teacher Tells You That When He Goes He Will Sent '' Another '' Teacher (Common Sense Will Tell You That You Are Going To Have To Wait Until He Departs Before You Can Expect The Next ( Or Another ) Teacher . This Is The Same Thing - Nothing Heavy .
    If According To Christianity , Jesus Was The Comforter Then Why Didn't He Reprove The World Of Sin When He Came ?
    According To John 16 ; 8 The Comforter Would Reprove The World Of Sin When He Comes .
    John 16 ; 8
    AND WHEN HE IS COME HE WILL REPROVE THE WORD OF SIN , AND
    OR RIGHTEOUSNESS , AND OF JUDGMENT ;
    The Word Used In Greek For Reprove '' Is < Elegcho > Meaning '' To Confute , Admoish , Convict ,Tell A Fault , Rebuke . According To The illustrated Heritage Dictionary And Information Book , On Page 1104 , The Word '' Reprove '' Is Defined As ; To Rebuke For A Fault Or Misdeed ; To Scold ;
    However , According To Christianity Jesus Came To Take Away The World's Sin As Found In John 1 ; 29 Where It Say And I Quote '' The Next Day John Seeth Jesus Coming Unto Him , And Saith , Behold The Lamb Of God , Which Taketh Away The Sin Of The Word ' ..Think About It , If Jesus Came To Die On The Cross For The World's Sin , Then Why Is There Still Sin In The World ? And According To John 16; ; 8 , The Comforter Is To Reprove The World Of Judgment , Because As It Says In John 16 ; 11 And I Quote '' Of Judgment , Because The Prince Of This World Is Judged , However , Jesus Said He Came To Save The World Not To Judge It In John 12 ; 47 .
    AND IF ANYMAN HEAR MY WORD , AND BELIEVE NOT , I JUDGE HIM NOT ; FOR I CAME NOT TO JUDGE THE WORLD BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD
    Question What Is '' Getting The Holy Ghost '' .
     
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