Black Sports : who is better Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach?

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  1. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This is a question for sports historians. Who was/is a better coach, Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach? Who had more to work with? Who won more with less?
     
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    Now this is a tough question but we have to ask if Phil was a coack back then and REdd was a coach now what would their records be like???? :driveby:
     
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    it's a very hard choice here but i would have to lay my pennies on Phil !
    we have too a scrapy BULLS team and made them Champion and then
    was able to cross the drama of L.A into glory boys and win RED was a great
    coach as well he had some talented players now with the Lakers today Phil
    has some top flight players too i have to go with Phil Jackson
     
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    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Red has always been critical of Phil, and claims that the only reason Phil wins so much is because he had superior talent: Jordan & Pippen with the Bulls, Shaq & Kobe with the Lakers. This is a biased view because Red also had top talent during his years with the Celtics: Russell, Cousy, etc. I give Phil the nod, because he won with 2 different teams, against better competition.

    On a side note both coaches are tied with 9 titles....if the Lakers win this year Phil will be the sole leader with 10 titles.
     
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    I have to go with Phil Jackson. Red had superior talent in what was technically an inferior league if you compared it too now. And if you put any of Phil's Teams against Red's they would slaughter them.

    And also guys.....

    Phil Jackson Built the Bulls didn';t he? Jordan and Pippen them did not just start winning in their rookie years.
     
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    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    To say that Phil's teams would slaughter Red's teams is an understatement; however, some people (usually senior citizens) swear up & down that the Celtics of the 60s could beat anyone.

    Phil did build the Bulls, but Red also built the Celtics. Red claims that Phil had great teams handed to him, which isn't true. Before Phil came to the Bulls...Doug Collins would always have them out in the second round.....the same with Del Harris and the Lakers. Phil took both teams and put them in the Finals.
     
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    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I'm sure no one enjoyed the NBA Finals (and Detriot's victory) more than Red.
     
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    I WOULD HAVE 2 SAY PHIL. BEING THAT HE WON AN ERROR OF SUPERIOR ATHELETES COMPARED 2 REDS ERROR . TODAY THERE ARE MORE TEAMS, A LONGER SCHEDULE (CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG), AND A THREE POINT LINE.
     
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    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You are correct Therious, there were less teams & a shorter season in Red's day. Also the league was less talented, which meant less competition. Winning 8 titles in a row is impressive...but it also suggests a lack of competition.
     
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    Guys, I'd actually make the case that Larry Brown is a better coach than either of these men, in that he took team(s) of lesser talent, and always produced winners of them all... Remember, this is the man who took the lowly L.A. Clippers to their first and only NBA playoff series... And though it has been a long time gone ago, he also took the New Jersey Nets to a couple of playoff experiences when they, too, had not seen too much action in the NBA post season... Coach Brown is my greatest coach ever!

    Peace!
    Isaiah
     
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