Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by hiphopolx, Sep 6, 2008.
how jesus christ appears AT THE HEIGHT of the roman empire
i say the vactian did it
capitalizing on the human fear and human uncertainty
which is to help people
but i do have a problem when it's a lie
and that lie suppresses people
we ALL should know by now that jesus and the immaculate conception
were all derived from ancient egyptian religious practices
because the son they were referring to is the ACTUAL SUN
that's why the "SON" was birthed in a immaculate conception
the "SON" is birthed each morning and shines "his" light
we can go on and on but if you not ready for the truth
OPEN YOUR MIND
i'm not saying don't believe because i know very well the divine presence
and i believe and have full faith in it (i wouldn't be here without it)
but i'm asking just understand why you understand what you "think"
for me when someone said have faith i had to dig deeper than that
i think when people just settle for "faith" i think it's fear or laziness
because the information is out there there is no reason they you don't know
the history about the "SUN"
I say the apostle Paul (who was from Rome)
With that being said it still amazes me how many christians are ignorant to these facts.
I actually was beginning to (and I need to get back at it) look out how Paul could've possibly been influenced by Mithraism (which also was derived from the story of Ausar, Auset, and Heru) when proclaiming that Jesus was the son of God. I've read in one source that mithraism was actually popular in Tarsus where S/Paul resided. I still need to look more into it though.....
I do not ask the following question in defense of Christianity but so that if I open my mouth to speak I can speak with knowledge. My question is this: How could the ancients have associated the word son with the word sun? They were not speaking English. In the new testament when it refers to Jesus as the Son of God it uses the word huios which means male child. Whereas the word sun is helios in the new testament. Although there are some similarities in the transliteral spelling this still depends on English letters which did not even exist back then.
This brings up another question: Biblical scholars say the new testament was originally written in Greek. Thus words like helios. Jesus was not Greek. Neither did he speak Greek. Peter, Paul, James, John, Matthew, Mark and Luke were not Greek. Neither did they speak Greek. So how can the new testament be authentic if it was originally written in Greek?
This geos back to the point concerning Mithras or Mithraism.
"It is possible that he created the festival called dies natalis Solis Invicti, "birthday of the undefeated Sun" which is recorded in 354 (in the Chronography of 354) as was celebrated on the 25th December, but no earlier reference to it exists."
You bring up valid points, and to tell you the truth I'm skeptical of the new testament for various reasons...It is true that the New Testament was originally written in Greek, which therefore makes us question further..."who wrote the bible?"
Hey brotha omo,
Yes, I am aware of the solis invicti. And I know that they were under the Julian calendar which placed the winter solstice on December 25. When we switched to the Gregorian calendar which is still in use they kept the date for Christmas although the solstice is now on the 21 or 22. I also know of the elements christendom borrowed from astrology to create their mythology of Jesus' birth and death.
I was just wondering if there were an etymological connection between the words son and sun that goes back to that time period.
Everybody wrote it if you ask them
In the Spirit of Sankofa!
For the sake of shedding a little more light on the Bible, the Septuagint is the Greek version of the Hebrew and Aramaic text manuscripts. As to ancient etymology of son and sun, in the Hebrew, we have ben and maowr, respectively.
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