Black Spirituality Religion : Who are the choosen people?

As far as Everything being credited the the "ancient Egyptians" nothing is farther from the truth.

That is the problem with those who have done a very limited scope of research and remain within a narrow paradigm.

As far as a "chosen people" is concerned, no, that includes to so called Black Hebrews, but is not limited to them.

All so called Black people who were created by YHWH to mine gold, who were created by him to serve as a slave labor force (see York, Sitchim, Black Roots Science) are his 'chosen people' .

As far as this having nothing to do with Bloodlines, extremely false. That is why I mention the Lemba who have an unbroken line of matrilineal descent dating back to 'creation' and they do not refer to 'the Father' by the name Jesus or Yahweh.

In the Spirit of Sankofa,


... Bro. omowalejabali,

Either she doesn't recognize the spelling of Lemba, or she's forgotten the research she did earlier; all of which shows that we can over-educate ourselves.

http://destee.com/index.php?threads/amen-amun-amen-ra.51781/#post-517992


--The etymology points back to its original birthplace -- Ethiopia which came before Egypt. Hmm. that means Christianity has no 'legitimate' claim on this word though it is morphed all over the biblical text as though it came with the content naturally.:em4200:

The Origin of the Word Amen: Ancient Knowledge the Bible Has Never Told by scholar, Salim Faraji

"The word (amen) pre-dates ancient Egypt," says history professor, Jahi Issa. "It means the unseen principles of God."
http://www.kentucky.com/158/story/246204. html

Dr Anthony Browder further confirms that the word was richly entrenched in the Egyptian way of thought, acton and life.

--Before there was Hebrew, Greek, Latin or Christianity for that matter there was Afrika. Our ancestors personified a GOD figure and prayed to a GOD head long before Hebrew, Greek or Christiany were on the religious map.

Know that when you say the word you are invoking the Egyptian Sun-Deity Amen-Ra at the end of your prayers and/or declarational, confirmational or convictional statements! And also, know that the source is even older than that!:bye:

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Scholar traces origins of 'Amen'
He says word is of African, not Hebrew, origin
By Robert Kelly-Goss
COX NEWS SERVICE
ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. --
"Thank you, God. Amen."
http://www.kentucky.com/158/story/246204.html

That phrase, and the last word more specifically, is very familiar to millions of English-speaking Christians, Jews and Muslims worldwide. Prayers of these three major monotheistic religions are typically closed with the word, "amen."

For many the word amen means, "so be it," or "it is so." In the Western world of religion the credit for the word is given to the Hebrew texts of the Old Testament, or Jewish Torah. Christians adopted the word, as well as the Muslims.

But the origin of the word is under contention. It does not, says one Elizabeth City State University professor, trace its roots back to the Hebrew people; rather, the word can be traced to pre-dynastic Egypt, in the region of Africa known as the Sudan, to be more specific.

"The word (amen) pre-dates ancient Egypt," says history professor, Jahi Issa. "It means the unseen principles of God."

Issa is co-author with another scholar, Salim Faraji, of the book The Origin of the Word Amen: Ancient Knowledge the Bible Has Never Told, and it suggests far more than a simple origin of one of the most uttered words in the world.

Issa started the journey toward his discovery when he began making trips to Africa, 26 in all so far. He would travel back and forth between Ghana and Egypt.

Through his travels and studies, Issa says, he began to notice similarities between ancient Egyptian culture and contemporary Ghana. That observation led him to academic books on divine kingship and ancient cultures, including one from an Oxford University professor who pointed him to the Akan people of Ghana and a 1999 article in The New York Times.

The article, Issa says, reported on the DNA connection between the Lemdapeople of southern Africa and the early Hebrew people. Through that article and other academic research, Issa came up with several realizations.

One was that the origins of early biblical figures such as the Hebrews were most likely African, not Palestinian Arabs. Two, the word amen is derived from a pre-dynastic Egyptian culture found in the Sudan.

In essence, Issa is making the claim that there was an ancient kingship similar to Egypt that gave birth to the dynastic pharaohs of the Nile region who happen to be from the Sudan. Those people not only influenced the Egyptian dynasties, but they also migrated northwest to what is now Ghana and their culture can be seen in West Africa to this day.

But what does that have to do with the word amen? Well, Issa suggests that the word amen has its roots in the ancient name for the pharaoh, Amen, or in some cases spelled Amun.

In his book he points out that the word amen can be found in much of ancient Africa's culture and that it predates the Hebrew people. OK, but what does the book and its claims mean to contemporary society?

"The significance of the book is that historically when it comes to religion, because of Europe's 500-year dominance of the world, people have been misled to think the people of the Bible were European, and they were not. They were people of color," says Issa.

In other words, if the origin of the word amen is ancient Sudanese and that means that the world's three major monotheistic religions owe its beginnings to that region, not what we know as the Middle East, it would also suggest that, as Issa puts it, "Jesus was a black man with kinky hair."

For many contemporary scholars, the idea that Jesus was likely akin to contemporary Palestinian people is not far-fetched. But few have gone so far as to maintain that Jesus had the same physical traits as a man from, say, Ghana.

Issa, along with other scholars, is firm in his belief and is certain that even the origins of humankind, according to the Bible, can be found in Africa. Eden, Issa says, is in Ethiopia, and the Book of Genesis says as much.

For Issa, it's a significant step toward bringing people together to convince them that, yes, the world owes much of its cultural and religious origins to Africa.

He hopes one day all churches will depict Jesus as a black man and, similarly, he hopes that acceptance will work toward bringing people together, and not asunder, because of the color of one's skin.

Issa is certain that there are many scholars and people in the general public that would give him an "amen" on that point.

Clyde said:
In the Spirit of Sankofa!


Fine1952,

Good work! Fine, very good! Just in case research is done on the Lemda people, the author misspelled it, it should be spelled Lemba(we all make mistakes). Recently, a documentary indicated these black Jews (the Lemba people)were the last to have the ark of the covenant. This information you have provided, certainly works well with what we have been saying all along, especially Music Producer.

Don’t forget: http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=519116&postcount=72
In the above, I simple tried to explain that the spelling given, Lemda, was not correct; it should be Lemba. And in the process, I was confronted with this same childish attitude:

You might want to point out that faux pas to the author...!

Actually any alteration (e.g. change) by me to a literary piece deems the transfer of that information "a non-valid quotation".
:teach:

However, what the 2 authors [e.g. Salim Faraji & Jahi Issa] "point out" that I duly note is what has already been confirmed by the expert on such topics -- Dr. Darkwah in his book "The Africans Who Wrote The Bible" in March 15, 2000 ~& that is, that these two Great Nations have a similar relationship that reaches beyond coincidence. :lift:


With this, she shows no real understanding, as you and I have of the Lemba people.

I am surprised that...

you did not correct my mis-spelling of the word "alteration"as the expert proof reader here at Destee.com:coffee:


So after all this, I just quit... you might want to look over the exchanges to get the gist of what I'm saying.

Peace In,

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In the Spirit of Sankofa,


... Bro. omowalejabali,

Either she doesn't recognize the spelling of Lemba, or she's forgotten the research she did earlier; all of which shows that we can over-educate ourselves.

http://destee.com/index.php?threads/amen-amun-amen-ra.51781/#post-517992





In the above, I simple tried to explain that the spelling given, Lemda, was not correct; it should be Lemba. And in the process, I was confronted with this same childish attitude:





With this, she shows no real understanding, as you and I have of the Lemba people.




So after all this, I just quit... you might want to look over the exchanges to get the gist of what I'm saying.



Peace In,


Brother Clyde, I do get the gist of what you are saying, but I have this person on ignore, and do not care about their numerous contradictions.

Notice in that quote it mentions an earlier group in Nubia/Sudan and this has long been one of my contentions, which is why I object to the "everything began in ancient Egypt". That group in Nubia was the Kerman civilization, upon which was built Nubia, Kush, Wawat and the later Christian states in the Nilotic region.

The Lemba stated they were part of two groups which migrated from Yemen. I'm gonna stick to their version of their story, which few here know about.

You are one of the few, maybe "chosen" to be such, and thank you for such.

Shalom Aleichum!

lol!
 
Brother Clyde, I do get the gist of what you are saying, but I have this person on ignore, and do not care about their numerous contradictions.

Notice in that quote it mentions an earlier group in Nubia/Sudan and this has long been one of my contentions, which is why I object to the "everything began in ancient Egypt". That group in Nubia was the Kerman civilization, upon which was built Nubia, Kush, Wawat and the later Christian states in the Nilotic region.

The Lemba stated they were part of two groups which migrated from Yemen. I'm gonna stick to their version of their story, which few here know about.

You are one of the few, maybe "chosen" to be such, and thank you for such.

Shalom Aleichum!

lol!

Understood brother, Shalom Aleichum!


Peace In bro. omo,

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