Black People : White Supremacy

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Are we living under a worldwide system of white supremacy?

  1. Yes

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  1. Destee

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    Hello Family,

    We've been listening to Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr., and Dr. Francis Cress Welsing in our voice video chat over the weekend. Much thanks to Counter-Racist Radio, for making these recordings available to us all. It is a result of listening to them, that has prompted this thread / question.

    Do you believe we are currently living under a worldwide system of white supremacy?

    Please vote in the poll above.

    If your answer is yes, how do we overcome this? Please post below.

    If your answer is no, how do you explain what's going on in the world today? Please post below.

    I'm looking forward to a great discussion.

    Thanks in advance Family.

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    We overcome this by getting to our "leaders" and letting them know that enough is enough. After all, while they are traveling, we are going to have community meetings, gatherings, and embracing.

    I say that we are, because the final decision to keep something going or stop it lies in the hands of white supremacy.

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  3. Destee

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    Brother Cedric ... hi there ... :wave:

    You say that we are (please vote above), and it is up to them whether it stops or keeps going?

    If this is true, what can our "leaders" do?

    I voted yes in the poll, because the evidence is so overwhelming, though it hurt my heart to cast that vote! :cry:

    After listening to Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr., and Dr. Francis Cress Welsing over the weekend, one can hardly come away with much else. Having to admit such a thing is terrible. Okay, now that i've very reluctantly admitted this, what do we do?

    How do we get out of this mess people?!!

    They are the minority in the world, yet they control the majority!

    What we gotta do?!! ... or is it gonna be this way till they get tired?!

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  4. Unknown_Soulja

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    First ask yourself Destee, where is the most important battlefront of white supremacy, that can be easily won by black people? In otherwords, where on this planet do we have a place where blacks and whites struggle for resources, yet blacks have the potential of true control of the resources in that area. When you can answer the question, then we can discuss how to get ourselves out of this mess.
     
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    Brother Unknown Soulja ... Hello and Welcome ... :wave:

    I'm so glad you've joined us and decided to take part in the discussions. But Brother, please, this is not the time for guessing games. I am quite disheartened at even having to admit such a thing as the poll above asks. If you have some answers for us, or ways that we can get out of this mess ... please share them, as this has gone on long enough.

    I was just talking to Brother Son of RA in voice video chat, and he said that the battle is in our minds, it is psychological. That is the battlefront we must win on. Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr., says that there is no where in the world, that a Black person can go, and not be under the rule of white supremacy.

    Now, in an attempt to answer your question, i suppose you mean Africa? But even you admitted that currently, all we have is potential, and we must first win something. Which brings us back to right now, we have the potential wherever we reside, to win something, yet we're failing to do that. We've won nothing, we control nothing, yet we're the first (original) people, and the majority of people in the world. Their own scientists admit that they are a genetic mutation!

    I tend to think like Brother Son of RA ... the most important battlefield is in our minds.

    We must win there first. Undo what they've done to our thinking. But many of us aren't willing to even admit this problem exists.

    Brother Unknown Soulja ... how do we get out of this mess?

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    In reference to Destee and Soulja:

    Soulja posed a very good question: where is the most important battlefront of white supremacy, that can be easily won by black people?

    Me being whole-heartedly specializing in Education and the younger crowd, I feel as if building our own institutions will be the easiest. Think about it - our own community get-togethers, watch TV together, play games together, educate one another on what we know to those who don't know, feed each other, give each other clothing (since blacks buy as much clothing as anyone else), have poetry nights, bible study nights, sistah-on-sistah and brotha-on-brotha fellowships; we could all (with the help of our "leaders") invest in this one community-sized institution, and incorporate everything spoken of.

    Lord knows we have a long way to go. I am speaking of simple things. This is much easier than trying to build a sound economy; in order to do that, we need to make jobs.

    I contribute toward what I will be doing every single day. I just understand that some things take time; especially when you put it in God's hands. I trust Him, because he has always come through for me.

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    Yes there is White Supremecy
    I feel Brother Cedric on some but not all
    Strong leaders in my mind that we once had
    Yes we do have Brothers that are willing to take control
    Take the helm of the Black Community
    Yet from them and what I have seen I personally
    Would like to search for other Black Leaders
    So to answer the question I think we need better leaders
    A stronger focus & some self determination
    We can change the world if we want too...Believe That!!!
     
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    Thanks sister Destee. I agree with you. Infact we are saying the same thing. I openly admit to white supremacy because it does exist. Didnt you watch the apprentice and the backlash that followed the Black winner? To sweep it under the carpet is what will sustain it. Unlike the new "breed" of black "leaders" who feel the need to negotiate with poor whites to destroy white supremacy, I would rather beg to differ. Black people control the largest human and mineral resources on the planet. We have a potential a global population of 1.3 billion by 2050. We have been blinded by divide and conquer even within America itself. Until we realize our potential power, we will not understand the reason why white supremacy is on the rise. Bringing up abstract notions of fighting white supremacy by "mind" and Pschology will not bring food to the table of the average black person. Such abstract notions should be restricted to leisurely poetry discussions.

    The fact is white supremacy means they are controlling resources (human, mineral, oil) that is not even in their native European origin. They do it by wars, by corrupting non-european leaders, and by ruthless racial discrimination in America. Untill we can make what is ours (human capital, mineral resources) work for ourselves, there will always be white supremacy. The question is where is the first battlefront for this "take back" of what is ours?
     
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    The Mythology That Kills

    Family, I need to share this article with you. Tell me what you think and what can we do to combat “the mythology that kills”.

    The Mythology That Kills by Llaila O Afrika

    The “mytholgy that kills” includes the unfounded imagery/false idea that White supremacy can be changed by Afrikans and that Whites want to stop being White/Racists. It seems impossible to reverse these anti-Afrikan myths, and Afrikans that hold onto them are serving Whites just the same as drug addiction, genofratricide, junk food diets and Afropeans/Negroes serve(d) White supremacy.

    Afrikan people are infected by mythology. More Afrikans suffer and die from myths, directly and indirectly, than can be estimated. The belief in mythology causes Afrikans to die because they have proclaimed themselves to have the duty of saving the White supremacists. Afrikans take energy that could be used for their children, family, and community and give that energy to saving White people. They believe their Afrikan intelligence, spirituality and actions can save Whites from White supremacy. Some Afrikans believe that protest, politics, joining or working for Caucasian government/businesses/religion, getting special programs or laws “changed”, and/or working “within” the system will save Whites from White supremacy. This is a waste of Afrikan energy and drains the world Afrikan community of human resources. White supremacy is a spiritual, mental and physical illness. It requires treatment from a practitioner that does not and will not exist-a sane, non-racist, Caucasian therapist.

    Afrikans, in their political, social and religious attempts to rid Whites of White supremacy have become co-dependents. Co-dependency is typical of the thinking and behavior of the partners of addicts. If she/he does not put her/him out to the house or into therapy, then every action she/he takes in the relationship keeps the addict an addict. In her/his attempts to save the addict and the relationship, she/he becomes mentally ill and develops a behavior disorder. Every action an Afrikan takes to save Whites from White Supremacy is perverted. In the Afrikan/European co-dependent relationship, even anti-White supremacy actions are used as fuel to energize White supremacy. In fact, these actions are institutionalized to support White supremacy. There are many examples of this.

    When Black television audiences demanded more Black shows, it was anticipated that these shows would provide a better understanding of racial issues and relevant ideas about our culture and struggle. The Caucasian-owned television media responded by putting on shows that degraded and insulted us by projecting Blacks as clowns who are irresponsible, immoral, hypersexed, without ethics, spirituality or anything of value (i.e. Martin Lawrence, Wayan Brothers, Def Comedy Jam, Steve Erkel, Fresh Prince, etc.)

    Television shows serve to maintain White supremacy. In other words, they maintain the master/slave relationship. The shows are sponsored by Caucasian companied, which make huge economic profits. The Afrikan belief in the mythology is reinforced, thereby, and the White supremacists get paid for being White supremacists. Co-dependency causes Afrikans to believe in the myth that change in Caucasian behavior is possible.

    Many Afrikans are unaware that White supremacy has temporary periods of ‘non-racism’ while modifying the racist behavior and then continues in another form. It is a characteristic of the White supremacists disease process to temporarily alter behavior, make situational adjustments, and then substitute another form of White supremacy.

    In 1965, Caucasians created the U.S. Elementary and Secondary Education Act, which established the $40 billion-a-year business, called “Special Education”. This increased the number of psychologists from 3,000 to over 20,000 by 1993. The psychologists, teachers and counselors started teaching lifestyle choice- sexual preference/homosexuality-which is basically immoral and unethical behavior. According to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the purpose of psychology is to bend and alter the culture of children and adults. Along with the increase of “lifestyle choice” indoctrination has been an increase in drug abuse, arrest, gang violence, sexual diseases, abortion, a 220% increase in suicides and 100% increase in illiteracy.

    Only 1 out of 10 “Special Education” students graduate from high school. Special Education makes Afrikan children’s reaction to oppression, White supremacy, poverty, television shows, slavery, trauma, junk food, prescription tranquilizers and narcotics (Ritalin) a medical problem instead of a White supremacy problem. Despite ample historical evidence that demonstrates the racist mental illness and violent nature of Caucasians, Afrikans continue to believe in and serve anti-Afrikan mythology. The end result of serving these myths is the continued destruction of Black civilization.

    If Afrikans keep walking with their eyes looking only upward for spirituality, they will stumble out of their own culture and be swallowed up by anti-Afrikan non-culture. We, the living Afrikans, have not been living within our culture because we are the victims of many anti-Afrikan myths. We must combine our knowledge of the past and present to destroy these myths and uplift Africanity to higher heights. The mythology that kills should not be permitted to claim another Afrikan victim.
     
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    Doesn't just about everything begin with using the MIND in the first place? It does not just take a MIND to bring food to the table, but it takes a SOUND MIND to bring the right food to the table! So be that as it may, I believe when we use our MINDS, we can overcome white supremacy; it begins with the thought process. After all, don't we THINK about overcoming white supremacy before we overcome it?

    Also, I come to think of something:

    How did Marcus Garvey's UNIA and the Nation of Islam build a consensus WITHOUT white supremacy controlling them? What did it take?

    By the way Tantrum, when I mention "leaders," I put it in quotations for a reason. I am trying to decipher the difference between "Black Leaders" and "Leading Blacks." According to Rev. Al Sharpton, a "leader," he says that "Black Leaders" are the ones who represent our communities. Whether they are or are not our leaders, the bottom line is we need to network/communicate with them.

    CD
     
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